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OT: New York Mets 2024-2025 Off Season Thread

Just for fun, Will Sammon of The Athletic (paywall) came up with a projected 2027 Opening Day roster. It includes only those players who are under 2027 team control. So no Alonso, McNeil, Peterson, etc. Also no free agents or trades.

Here goes:

C Francisco Alvarez
1B Mark Vientos
2B Jett Williams
SS Francisco Lindor
3B Ronny Mauricio
LF Brandon Nimmo
CF Carson Benge
RF Juan Soto
DH Ryan Clifford

Bench: OF Nick Morabito, OF Drew Gilbert, INF Luisangel Acuña, C Kevin Parada

SP: Kodai Senga, Sean Manaea, Brandon Sproat, Christian Scott, Jonah Tong, Blade Tidwell

RP: Edwin Díaz, Dedniel Núñez, Nolan McLean, José Buttó, Reed Garrett, Tylor Megill, Clay Holmes
 
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Just for fun, Will Sammon of The Athletic (paywall) came up with a projected 2027 Opening Day roster. It includes only those players who are under 2027 team control. So no Alonso, McNeil, Peterson, etc. Also no free agents or trades.

Here goes:

C Francisco Alvarez
1B Mark Vientos
2B Jett Williams
SS Francisco Lindor
3B Ronny Mauricio
LF Brandon Nimmo
CF Carson Benge
RF Juan Soto
DH Ryan Clifford

Bench: OF Nick Morabito, OF Drew Gilbert, INF Luisangel Acuña, C Kevin Parada

SP: Kodai Senga, Sean Manaea, Brandon Sproat, Christian Scott, Jonah Tong, Blade Tidwell

RP: Edwin Díaz, Dedniel Núñez, Nolan McLean, José Buttó, Reed Garrett, Tylor Megill, Clay Holmes
Poor job by Sammon on this and he's one of my faves.
 
Just for fun, Will Sammon of The Athletic (paywall) came up with a projected 2027 Opening Day roster. It includes only those players who are under 2027 team control. So no Alonso, McNeil, Peterson, etc. Also no free agents or trades.

Here goes:

C Francisco Alvarez
1B Mark Vientos
2B Jett Williams
SS Francisco Lindor
3B Ronny Mauricio
LF Brandon Nimmo
CF Carson Benge
RF Juan Soto
DH Ryan Clifford

Bench: OF Nick Morabito, OF Drew Gilbert, INF Luisangel Acuña, C Kevin Parada

SP: Kodai Senga, Sean Manaea, Brandon Sproat, Christian Scott, Jonah Tong, Blade Tidwell

RP: Edwin Díaz, Dedniel Núñez, Nolan McLean, José Buttó, Reed Garrett, Tylor Megill, Clay Holmes
Is Acuna not under control in 2027?
 

What do you guys think?
Seems fair. Pete Alonso is a human being who felt unappreciated. Cohen made him feel appreciated. He gave Alonso a very player-friendly deal, front-loaded with the opt out.

Then I suspect Boras chimed in by citing examples of other clients (Blake Snell, Matt Chapman), who took short deals, produced, and got paid. Alonso figured why not me. And why not?
 
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FWIW the recruiting pundits are unconvinced. Acuna underperformed for five months at AAA, and then overperformed for two weeks in the bigs. What will we get from him now?
The pundits are frequently wrong. We heard stanek was gone, next day he is signed. How many times we hear Pete going to blue jays, going to angels, now signed.
 
FWIW the recruiting pundits are unconvinced. Acuna underperformed for five months at AAA, and then overperformed for two weeks in the bigs. What will we get from him now?
The bull case is he then did well in winter ball - was finalist for ROY there. Good slash numbers 337/419/495 and stole a bunch of bases. Long term he's probably a depth guy which is fine but maybe a light has turned on for him.
 
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FWIW the recruiting pundits are unconvinced. Acuna underperformed for five months at AAA, and then overperformed for two weeks in the bigs. What will we get from him now?
It's a bit more concerning than even that. Other than 200 ABs in rookie ball in 2019, his stats have been consistently unspectacular-to-middling in minor league ball every year, and last year his performance with over 500 ABs in AAA was weak. He's young, but not super young, as he'll be 23 when the season starts. I've wondered whether he'd have been considered a significant prospect if he wasn't brothers with the guy from the Braves.
 
The bull case is he then did well in winter ball - was finalist for ROY there. . . .
I don't know if it stayed that way, but at some point when Acuna was putting up good numbers in Venezuelan winter ball, I also read that the overall offensive numbers in that winter league were very high for the season (at least to that point).
 
I don't know if it stayed that way, but at some point when Acuna was putting up good numbers in Venezuelan winter ball, I also read that the overall offensive numbers in that winter league were very high for the season (at least to that point).
It should definitely be taken with a grain of salt. But at least he didn't struggle there. Then I think you could really ignore his MLB stats. I guess we shall see ultimately.
 
Seems fair. Pete Alonso is a human being who felt unappreciated. Cohen made him feel appreciated. He gave Alonso a very player-friendly deal, front-loaded with the opt out.

Then I suspect Boras chimed in by citing examples of other clients (Blake Snell, Matt Chapman), who took short deals, produced, and got paid. Alonso figured why not me. And why not?
Yeah I mean Pete is only going to finish as one of the all-timers in Mets franchise history and has represented the Mets and enbraced the city since day one, glad our owner bothered to care about him as opposed to the cold shoulder that the Mets franchise gave both Jose Reyes and Daniel Murphy in their free agency (Jose confirmed it in interviews in the past that they basically just essentially F off and didn't even try to discuss an extension, when he actually would have taken less to stay)
 
If like me, you were wondering why Pete Alonso isn't listed, the answer is that his signing is not yet official. They probably won't make it official until Wednesday, the first day of camp. On that day, teams can open up the 60 day IL. By delaying Alonso's signing until Wednesday, they don't have to cut anybody from the 40 man. They can simply move somebody like Christian Scott to the 60 day IL.
 
If like me, you were wondering why Pete Alonso isn't listed, the answer is that his signing is not yet official. They probably won't make it official until Wednesday, the first day of camp. On that day, teams can open up the 60 day IL. By delaying Alonso's signing until Wednesday, they don't have to cut anybody from the 40 man. They can simply move somebody like Christian Scott to the 60 day IL.
Correct. I was wondering if they would do a Soto like press conference/day for Alonso coming back even though it might only be for one year.
 
TBH I think they would spare Alonso the embarrassment. He lost.
I'm not sure he did...his 1 year deal is well above what he could have gotten on a longer term and he has the opt out. Wasnt the long term deal he didn't sign equal to less than $25 mil per?
He is just banking on a huge year but he is not the highest paid 1B...
 
Talk of 3 guys hitting 30 HR
Alonso Soto Vientos

What if Lindor doesn’t start season 1-31
He has 30 HR potential

Alvarez hit 25 HR 2 years ago

Nimmo had very subpar year and hit 23

 
Yeah $30M with a player opt out, seems like a win-win
It is a win, but only from where Pete was standing a week before he agreed to it. He'd been waiting 6 years to get to free agency and a big contract, and he got there and didn't get one. It's a punt. The fact that he's making a lot of money in the meantime--but not on a long term deal--is the compromise. That said, it should be enough to afford good steak.
 
I don’t see how Pete won in any shape or form. He had a $158M deal on his hand. He’ll never see anything like that again. Even if he hits 50 HRs and opts out, he still won’t reach that number in my opinion
 
A loss to me was if he locked himself into some horrific 6 year deal. At 30MM with a player opt-out, it is feasible for him to put up 50 HRs next year and find one team to bite at a sizable 4-5 year deal. It is unlikely, but certainly feasible.
 
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