OT: New York Mets 2024-2025 Off Season Thread
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I don't take the article seriously. My one year with the Mass Marauders of the Arena League, I watch the GM undermine the HC Don Stock and players all year. He trade my boy Freddy Guions to Milwaukee to make a point he was the genius behind the organization's success. We finished 8-4 (playoffs) in spite of the GM. The GM made moves that had little to do with winning, but more so about he ego based on the success of the organization when it was known as Detroit Drive. A lot of the back and forth going on now may have been ego driven and has little to do with what is best for either side. Once you beat someone down to you view point, it doesn't benefit either side to push for more concessions. It creates a bitter divide and may spread to other parts of the organization.
Right but you dont know what numbers are real and what aren't. You have no idea if Stearns is beating Alonso into the ground. If they end up making a deal it will be palatable for both sides. If they don't then by all means flame on.
Enough info from both sides have been leaked to know now it's a "who has the bigger set of balls." You know as well as everyone else knows the Mets were clear they were willing to pay a little more as long as it was a short term deal. Pete and Boras have blinked and the years are in the Mets favor. Now it the dollar amount that must be settled. The Mets put out a number a few weeks ago and now it seems Boras has come back with similar numbers, but it seems the Mets have moved the goal post once again. I'm not in favor of either side because it's part of doing business in a professional sport. Still, you have be in denial to see the Mets are playing with fire after having won the battle they had with Boras and Pete. Any opportunity to strengthen the lineup is disappearing as other options sign with other teams. Stringing Pete along for $2 or $3 million less a year goes to the old saying, "swallow elephants whole, while choking to death over a gnat."
Here we go:
Alonso, Iglesias, and a top RP now please
Alonso, Iglesias, and a top RP now please
I'm still ticked they kept going to the fruitless JD against LA, but this provides some salve.
Please get Pete done... I'm begging.
My son is a baseball nut. He's obsessed. Alonso has been his #1 since he was four years old. He's got the jersey's, the cards, the fathead on the wall, the autographed framed Picture on his wall... he's 7, he loves baseball, loves the Mets, and loves Alonso.
I really don't want to crush him
My son is a baseball nut. He's obsessed. Alonso has been his #1 since he was four years old. He's got the jersey's, the cards, the fathead on the wall, the autographed framed Picture on his wall... he's 7, he loves baseball, loves the Mets, and loves Alonso.
I really don't want to crush him
I just wonder it’s more Pete than the Mets at this point. He just not worth 6 or seven years at 30 per. I don’t blame management for not capitulating to boras here. If Toronto or San Fran want to make that deal, let them.
It looks like the Blue Jays are willing to overpay for Pete. They’d be crazy to let Guerrero walk and get only a sandwich pick in return. I don’t understand their thinking.
I expect the Mets to sign at least one top RP, a lefty RP, a backup middle infielder and trade for another bat.
Sources: With Jesse Winker signing, Mets face post-Pete Alonso world
The Mets have agreed to terms with outfielder/designated hitter Jesse Winker. That deal, which is pending physical, signifies that the team has pivoted to an offseason plan that likely does not involve a deal to bring back Pete Alonso.
sny.tv
SNY reported it.
Same, I don't think one has anything to do with the other. LH DH/OF, does not equal RH 1B/DH
My son was like that with David Wright, so for your son’s sake I hope they sign him. More than 3 years and I’m out, however.
Meh. All SNY knows is whatever the Mets are choosing to leak to them. Nothing more, nothing less.Sources: With Jesse Winker signing, Mets face post-Pete Alonso world
The Mets have agreed to terms with outfielder/designated hitter Jesse Winker. That deal, which is pending physical, signifies that the team has pivoted to an offseason plan that likely does not involve a deal to bring back Pete Alonso.
SNY reported it.
Both parties are leaking stuff through their chosen outlets. They are doing so for their own purposes. Not ours.
IMO the main thing that we don't know is: has Cohen actually given Stearns budget limitations? Does Stearns believe he only has $X left to spend, and if he spends it on Alonso, he cannot spend it elsewhere?
For 29 other franchises I would believe this to be true. With Cohen, who knows?
For 29 other franchises I would believe this to be true. With Cohen, who knows?
Don't see how signing Winker has any impact on Alonzo. Ones an outfielder, the other plays first.Sources: With Jesse Winker signing, Mets face post-Pete Alonso world
The Mets have agreed to terms with outfielder/designated hitter Jesse Winker. That deal, which is pending physical, signifies that the team has pivoted to an offseason plan that likely does not involve a deal to bring back Pete Alonso.
SNY reported it.
Exclusive | What the Mets were offering Pete Alonso before talks broke down
The Mets made what they perceived as a last-ditch effort to sign Pete Alonso and when that was rejected began their pivot away from their slugging first baseman, The Post has learned.
nypost.com
We’ll see how this ultimately turns out, but it doesn’t sound promising.
Marte Winker DH platoon is a possibility
That would be a way to keep marte healthier
That would be a way to keep marte healthier
Didn't the Mets offer 3 for 90 like two weeks ago? If both offers are true, then Stearns is being a d*ck by moving the goal post after having Pete by the balls already.
If 3 for 70 is true then Stearns clearly doesn’t want Pete to come back and has another plan in mind.
I think you are right. If Stearns were to ask Cohen for the OK to go 3/80, I am certain he would agree.
If Alonso is being offered more than 3/70 or whatever from another team why hasn't he accepted yet? Very possible he's turning down the most money from us again. We'll see when he signs with whatever team and at what money.
Even if the Mets don't re-sign Alonso, they must make at least one more move, solely for purposes of roster construction:
Right now the Mets have six guys who can only play OF or DH (Soto, Nimmo, Taylor, Siri, Marte, Winker). Plus two catchers. That leaves only five roster spots for four infield positions (Vientos, McNeil, Lindor, and two of Baty/Acuna/Mauricio). Mets would have no backup for Vientos at 1B.
That is untenable.
Right now the Mets have six guys who can only play OF or DH (Soto, Nimmo, Taylor, Siri, Marte, Winker). Plus two catchers. That leaves only five roster spots for four infield positions (Vientos, McNeil, Lindor, and two of Baty/Acuna/Mauricio). Mets would have no backup for Vientos at 1B.
That is untenable.
FWIW - The Times of India (honest!) has reported that Alonso/Boras has turned down an offer from the Angels of 2/$50M.
That ain't cricket. 🏏
That ain't cricket. 🏏
Mauricio is currently a doubt to start the year healthy so don't think so.
The market is the market. If Pete were getting years or the money he wants he'd sign. He's obviously not at this point.
Ideally, I would have liked Pete on a very short deal so we could move away from him quickly if he continues to decline. I just don’t understand this “home grown” stuff. This is a business and I don’t care if the players are from Mars, I just want the best we can get. I’ve worked for a very large pharmaceutical company for 35 years and loyalty has gone out the window decades ago (and I’m totally fine with that). Why is this any different.?
Maybe because I don’t follow J&J or BristolMeyers like I do for sports.
I have no attachment to either like I do for the Mets, Giants, Devils, etc.
My point is that I think the loyalty thing is silly, especially when players are getting paid these large amounts of money. The millions of dollars players like Pete have already received should help him or any other player get over their hurt feelings, when people making a fraction of that deal with it every day.
As far as the fans go, I just don’t understand why people care if a top player came up through the Mets farm system or anywhere else…but that’s me.
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