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OT: New York Mets 2024-2025 Off Season Thread

Still hung up on losing Soto? The Pinstripes, 27 rings, the "history and a years worth of hearing the cheers from Yankees fans meant nothing. Must be a tough pill. Fat Pete was way more clutch in the post season than your Mr. May, just stating the facts. How many more runs into the playoffs and total failures by "the best player in baseball" will it take for you to switch your attention from Fat Pete to Mr. May 2.0.
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He has a raging case of JV inferiority complex. Maybe there is a medication for that?
Sure, if there is, I'd take it, but if and when that med comes out, I hope there's one for Superiority Complex for those that think The Varsity is still the yard stick, too funny. Like I said and clearly touched a nerve, Soto walked away from all the Yankees "used to" represent and crossed the bridge to Flushing without looking back one bit. Is it a good time to post all the Yankee fan videos of the meltdowns? Think the first Tuesday in November. LMFAO
 
Sure, if there is, I'd take it, but if and when that med comes out, I hope there's one for Superiority Complex for those that think The Varsity is still the yard stick, too funny. Like I said and clearly touched a nerve, Soto walked away from all the Yankees "used to" represent and crossed the bridge to Flushing without looking back one bit. Is it a good time to post all the Yankee fan videos of the meltdowns? Think the first Tuesday in November. LMFAO
Good job. Admitting you have a problem is the first step towards recovery. But remember, you are still freaking out over a post that had nothing to do with the Mets or even Soto directly.
 
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I’m not sure how much better even Soto is by waiting for free agency. Wasn’t the Washington offer like $450m with opt outs. He would have banked 2 additional years of max money and likely still redid his contract if he performed the same. Factor in the time value of money, those 2 extra years are huge.
The two years don't matter that much.

Reportedly Soto's deal was $440M over 15 years, which is $29.3M per year. Let's assume the payouts were straight line (neither front loaded nor back loaded). Then...

2023 - Soto would have made $29.3M instead of the $23M he actually got in arbitration. So he would have come out ahead that year.

2024 - Soto would have made $29.3M instead of the $31M he actually got in arbitration. Wipes out some of the prior year's gain.

2025 and thereafter - NOT. EVEN. CLOSE.

The only variable is whether Washington was offering him opt-outs. That I do not know.
 
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The two years don't matter that much.

Reportedly Soto's deal was $440M over 15 years, which is $29.3M per year. Let's assume the payouts were straight line (neither front loaded nor back loaded). Then...

2023 - Soto would have made $29.3M instead of the $23M he actually got in arbitration. So he would have come out ahead that year.

2024 - Soto would have made $29.3M instead of the $31M he actually got in arbitration. Wipes out some of the prior year's gain.

2025 and thereafter - NOT. EVEN. CLOSE.

The only variable is whether Washington was offering him opt-outs. That I do not know.
Yeah, the opt out was key. Don’t know that detail either.
 
If that factoid is still true on Opening Day... meaning no Pete Alonso, no Tanner Scott, no Alex Bregman, no nobody else ...

Then I guaran-damn-tee you that you will be the first to express your righteous indignation.
I will say this. One thing we're learning about Stearns is that he values all assets in the system, and this seems to include patience with and giving shots to prospects, even those who have stumbled. So somewhere in his preferences list is giving Baty another shot, or believing that Mauricio is healthy and can contribute, or putting Acuna out there. But I'm sure he puts Pete (at the right price) higher on that list.
 
Mets and Yanks out on Sasaki per Martino.

Gotta be LAD or SD as we've been saying the whole time.
 
Baseball Prospectus(BP) had 5 Mets in their top 100 list.

39 - Brandon Sproat
48 - Jett Williams
71 - Carson Benge
74 - Nolan McLean
75 - Jonah Tong
Low salary talent for several years to balance the roster hopefully.
 
Baseball Prospectus(BP) had 5 Mets in their top 100 list.

39 - Brandon Sproat
48 - Jett Williams
71 - Carson Benge
74 - Nolan McLean
75 - Jonah Tong
Looks like the bloom is off the rose for the players acquired at the 2023 trade deadline. In particular, I guess the pundits weren't impressed by Acuna's hot September.
 
Both of them and the Jays.

If he goes to LA, that's gonna suck.
You wonder if the Padres ownership spat will impact their chances. They have done little this offseason and there are rumors about cutting costs. May turn Sasaki off despite his affinity towards Darvish.
 
Looks like the bloom is off the rose for the players acquired at the 2023 trade deadline. In particular, I guess the pundits weren't impressed by Acuna's hot September.
Gilbert basically lost all of last year and when he came back and played in AAA and the AFL he was awful and his ceiling wasn't that high as is. Acuna was bad in AAA before a small hot start in the majors. It helped but doesn't change the fact he wasn't so go most of the year. Clifford basically did what was expected so no concern there at this point. Some ratings will have him top 100 others will have him top 150. The variance isn't a big deal.

Gilbert and Acuna will have opportunities to show they belong at the major league level and no one will care that they were dropped from a top 100 prospect list.
 
Wonder where Vientos ranked before he was called up
You need wonder no further. Thanks to the marvels of the internet, I can answer your question.

In 2022, prior to making his MLB debut, he was ranked 4th on the MLB Pipeline Mets Top 30 list. He was behind Alvarez, Baty, and Mauricio. Those three were in the MLB Top 100, but VIentos was not.

Vientos made his Mets debut in 2022 with 41 plate appearances. He retained his rookie status.

In 2023 he had dropped to 8th on the list. He had been leapfrogged by Kevin Parada, Jett Williams, Alex Ramirez, and Blade Tidwell.

He graduated in 2023, and thus is absent from the 2024 list.
 
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So never in the top 100?

For what it’s worth, i always preferred his bat somewhat to Baty’s. Vientos’s power just seemed easy to him.
 
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Ok so to summarize...

Alejandra Razo, whoever she is, said she heard that Mike Rodriguez, whoever he is, heard from some unnamed source that the Mets are putting together a package for Vladimir Guerrero. Sounds like confirmation to me!

That said, I wouldn't be shocked if the Mets were to leak this information (true or otherwise) to increase the pressure on Boras. But if so, I doubt that they'd be leaking to Mike Rodriguez.
 
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Ok so to summarize...

Alejandra Razo, whoever she is, said she heard that Mike Rodriguez, whoever he is, heard from some unnamed source that the Mets are putting together a package for Vladimir Guerrero. Sounds like confirmation to me!

That said, I wouldn't be shocked if the Mets were to leak this information (true or otherwise) to increase the pressure on Boras. But if so, I doubt that they'd be leaking to Mike Rodriguez

Whatever you can leak and I can leak/create something better !!!

Mets want Pete but Vladdy Jr , Kyle Tucker and the next Japanese Aaron judge will be on the market next year
 
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The article sounds like BS. It's a filler that has no true info that neither confirms or denies anything concerning what the Mets are doing. The site needed an article to fill space on the website and that useless piece did the job. It's on the Internet, so it must be true. 😂
 
The ever reliable NY Post has an article that the Mets are pressuring Alonso for a decision. There is a agreement on the length of the deal (short-term) but not on the money per year. Evidently the Mets don't believe he has many other options at this point in time.
 
The ever reliable NY Post has an article that the Mets are pressuring Alonso for a decision. There is a agreement on the length of the deal (short-term) but not on the money per year. Evidently the Mets don't believe he has many other options at this point in time.
Jon Heyman reliably writes whatever Scott Boras feeds him. I can see why Boras may want to propagate the story to Mets fans that Stearns is putting the squeeze on their hero.
 
Jon Heyman reliably writes whatever Scott Boras feeds him. I can see why Boras may want to propagate the story to Mets fans that Stearns is putting the squeeze on their hero.
I might be one of the few that has grown to dislike Stearns since his arrival. I was big on him at first, then I started to see a lot of Milwaukee mindset surface with how he approaches everything. Some of it works well, but not all of it. NY is not Milwaukee. You have Pete over a barrel, so why continue to beat him? It was said the salary per year wasn't the problem. It was the length. Now the length issue is gone, why is the salary a problem now?

The Mets need someone to protect Soto in the lineup. Otherwise, we are back to square one with lineup. You overpay short term and strike now while still having freedom to move on Pete quickly without destroying salary flexibility in the future. There is no one out there that worth it outside of Pete, who been loyal and the face of the franchise. Don't create bad blood with the fans. At least give a valid reason to the fans would make it easier to swallow. Right now Stearns is acting like he's running the A's when it comes to Pete.
 
I suggest you stop taking all of these articles seriously until something really happens. You want to complain if Pete leaves and we do nothing I get it. Right now it's all a bunch of malarkey.

Stearns only gets us to the NLCS in his first year and we want to complain about his process? Ridiculous.
 
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