Low-carb diets work. Why does the American Diabetes Association push insulin instead? | Neil Barsky
The American Diabetes Association takes millions from companies that stand to profit from our reliance on drugs. Is that affecting their guidance?
OT: oh oh oh Ozempic !
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Ozempic use appears to be changing people’s personalities —experts think they know why
“Hunger is specifically for food but it’s more general than that, it activates craving for a lot of things,” Dr Kent Berridge said.
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Interesting.
You pat my back, I pat your's = $$$$ for both
Low-carb diets work. Why does the American Diabetes Association push insulin instead? | Neil Barsky
The American Diabetes Association takes millions from companies that stand to profit from our reliance on drugs. Is that affecting their guidance?www.theguardian.com
From the UK. It's not just the US.
Unfortunate last name, but Dr. Unwin has achieved some awesome results for his patients without medicine:
Govt agencies use human as lab rats:
If so, that is probably because it cuts body weight and, the heavier one is, the greater the risk for sleep apnea. But I would still think long and hard about possible side-effects before taking the drug for any purpose.
Yeah, the drug is called.....LoseSomeDamnWeightAndSleepApneaGoesAway.
Dipshits gonna dipshit.
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Elizabeth Hanna says she was fired by the American Diabetes Association after refusing to approve recipes heaped with the additive made by a major donor
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Study Points to Ketogenic Diet as Potential Alzheimer’s Treatment | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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ZeroHedge LOL!!!!Study Points to Ketogenic Diet as Potential Alzheimer’s Treatment | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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CNN had a business reporter (Richard Quest) caught naked in Central Park bushes. He had meth and a sex device. His Schmekel was tied to his neck with a rope. He was doing unmentionable things with a helper. Jeff Toobin of course got caught fapping on his laptop during a meeting. Less known is that around the same time Cuomo's producer was busted for grooming sex from minors - even negotiating with a mother of a 9 yr old girl. https://nypost.com/2021/12/15/cnn-fires-pedophile-chris-cuomo-producer/
So that's an insight into what hive media is. Other events show how the hive protected China over CV-19, and how it smeared anyone against massive expansion of Ukraine war - calling dissident voices "Russian operatives" and such. The hive also likes the endless, fake and manipulated economic numbers from Crew de Magoo.
More savvy news consumers understand ZH does not march with the hive, and was silenced by Google and Twitter for detailing Chinese lab involvement with virus. They would both reinstate ZH later after admitting error. The Crew de Magoo also assailed ZH as Russian disinfo for Ukraine war, and also for trying to paint Hunter laptop as Russian disinfo which was all proven by emails and bank records.
ZH first got famous for revealing existence of flash trading. ZH is known for being bearish but more for macro view of a financial/political world rife with corruption and sociopathic behaviors (like spending borrowed billions to get Ukraine's male population decimated despite a peace deal close to finished.
So yeah, lots of original, non-hive thinkers like ZH for a wide range of topics not all business specific. ZH is well known for having the smartest comment of most news sites. .
The proper response to a Ozempic bit on ZH is to search for any positive keto/Alzheimer's links. Such a search shows that ZH is in good company and cant be defamed for their take. Even the wankers at CNN agreed.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=keto+diet+alzhiemers#ip=1
Details Of 'Sabotaged' Russia-Ukraine Peace Deal In First Months Of War Revealed
Details Of 'Sabotaged' Russia-Ukraine Peace Deal In First Months Of War Revealed | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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UCLA "medical" school.
Jocko should teach the course instead:
Jocko should teach the course instead:
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More incentive to eat less and stop being fat:
www.telegraph.co.uk
Nearly half of all cancer cases are linked to obesity
Study finds excess weight could be fuelling more than 30 types of the disease
www.telegraph.co.uk
Eat less, eat foods that fill you up, foods lower on the glycemic scale. Overall, minimize calories. Plenty of information available to make good choices.
As for the "bad" foods you love, don't cut them out entirely, just moderate. You will stay happy and stick to the program.
This entire podcast is gold (Dr. Casey Means has a new book out discussing a lot of what is in this podcast). But this is cued directly to food.
For TLDR or TLDW, cut out all processed foods and seed oils (sometimes called the hateful 8). Almost all packaged foods are processed and are bad for metabolic health. Eat fresh vegetables, low glycemic fruits (blueberries, strawberries, rasberries), and if you are not vegetarian/vegan, plenty of eggs, fish (salmon is fantastic), lean poultry lean pork, and lean grass fed (not corn fed) beef. Strive to eat 1 g of protein for each lb of body weight. Supplement with whey or casein protein shakes as needed. Eating more protein will make you feel full. Avoid sugar, and sugary drinks, including "sports" drinks.
In this segment, Dr. Casey Means discusses foods that have the same impact as GLP-1 agonists such as Ozempic, Wegovy, and other GLP-1 agonist drugs.
In short, (1) eat more fiber (prebiotics); (2) eat 1-3 servings of low sugar, fermented foods: sauerkraut, Greek yogurt, kimchi, kvass; (3) protein sources (again) that have glutamine--eggs, meat and turkey stimulate more GLP-1.
It's easy to get lost in the weeds in this segment:
Prebiotics:
10 Prebiotic Foods For A Healthy Gut
Probiotics may get all the hype, yet prebiotics are just as essential for your gut health! Eat these 10 prebiotic foods to feed your good gut bacteria.
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Unfortunately, a good percentage of the population doesn't seem to care until it's too late. And even then, a portion of those still don't give a rat's ass as their health spirals down the toilet. To each their own, but it's a big head scratcher to me.More incentive to eat less and stop being fat:
Nearly half of all cancer cases are linked to obesity
Study finds excess weight could be fuelling more than 30 types of the disease
While ultimately, it is up to individuals to make the "right" choices, the guidance offered by the government, food companies, and even hospitals and medical professionals goes a long way towards causing people to make bad food choices.
The loudmouth DB T2 will say no, but some people get hooked on ultraprocessed foods, and it is difficult for them to break away. If your doctor or medical care professional is obese, maybe you want to look for another medical professional. Also, perhaps hospitals and schools should rid their cafeterias and vending machines of sugary drinks, candy and snacks. What is an average person with no knowledge of nutrition to think when hospitals are doling out crap to eat?
Also, the medical industry and popular media is normalizing obesity as acceptable. In the podcast I posted above, Dr. Casey Means points out that pharma companies are amped up about the market for GLP-1 drugs because they do not address the root cause of obesity- a poor diet and poor food ecosystem. Customers for life!
Obese people should pay more in health insurance and Medicaid/Medicare premiums. Same thing with smokers. It's their choice/right to be fat, but society shouldn't have to foot the bill for poor decisions.
Pharma companies and their employees that push crappy drugs that do not address root causes of problems should pay more in health insurance and Medicaid/Medicare premiums. So should Big Food and fast food chains.
It's criminal that pharma companies get these crap products funded by taxpayer money, and the pharma reps that peddle this crap should be ashamed of themselves.
It's criminal that pharma companies get these crap products funded by taxpayer money, and the pharma reps that peddle this crap should be ashamed of themselves.
Also, don't listen to people that ate too much, got fat, and are now trying to blame everyone else for their poor decisions. It's the gov'ment's fault. It's food companies' fault. It's pharma's fault. LOL! Nutrition info has been public and easy to access for decades.
If you eat too much, you get fat. It's that simple. Make better decisions.
If you eat too much, you get fat. It's that simple. Make better decisions.
and airline tickets! if your suitcase is 1 pound over they charge you but the person next to you could weigh 400 pounds and pay the same fare as the 50 pound child
Corporate pharma bros will not admit the real truth and blame individuals, who have been "fed" misinformation on food and pharma for years. It's a cultural issue, pushed by Big Food and pharma companies, who are happy to see the obesity numbers grow.
"But in the late 19th and early 20th century, large numbers of Japanese workers migrated to Hawaii and they have now been living on the island for four generations. They are genetically very similar to the Japanese people who didn’t leave. It turns out that after 100 or so years, Japanese Hawaiians are now almost as overweight as the people they live among. Some 18.1% of them are obese, compared to 24.5% of Hawaiians overall. That means Japanese Hawaiians are four times more likely to be obese than people back in Japan."
"No processed or frozen food ever goes into any of the meals here. “We start from scratch,” she said. “It’s all about nutrition ... Sometimes with frozen food, they use a lot of artificial additives.”
"The law contained a simple rule. Once a year, every workplace and local government in Japan has to bring in a team of nurses and doctors to measure the waistline of adults between ages 40 and 74. If the measurements are above a certain level, the person is referred to counseling, and workplaces draw up health plans with employees to lose weight. Companies with fattening work forces can face fines."
"I told all the Japanese people I talked to that if you tried this in the U.S. or Britain, people would be outraged and burn down their offices. They invariably looked puzzled, and asked me why. I said that people would feel like it was not their employer’s business what they weighed, and that it was a monstrous intrusion of their privacy. Most of them nodded politely, said nothing, and looked at me like I was slightly crazy."
The Land That Doesn't Need Ozempic
Some 43% of Americans are obese, compared with just 4.5% of Japanese people. What explains this gap?
My wife’s suitcase was 8 pounds under the limit, mine was 7 pounds over the limit. You are correct, I opened mine and put clothes into hers.
That's been true enough in part. I think some drug companies have been better than others. I know local people from Regeneron and consider them unusually ethical for most part. A large pharma had warned DT not to make any voodoo juice for CV-19 and they get bonus points. Pfizer on the other hand has been pretty bad in more ways than one but they (and others) got a lot of help from the dominant researcher/regulator/manufacturer triangle where all the same people just swap hats over and over. Big Ag is part of the same matrix.
Decades ago Harvard researchers were warning about the garbage food pyramid that was wrecking people (and minorities lead obesity/diabetes index).
Foxes in the hen house 2001:
"It troubles me that the public is not getting the best available information," says Walter C. Willett, M.D., D.P.H. '80, professor of medicine and Stare professor of epidemiology and nutrition in the faculty of public health. For example, he says the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) Food Guide Pyramid, ubiquitous on cereal boxes since 1992, is one major source of false intelligence. Since the department's mission is to promote American agriculture, not public health, Willett asks if it is "the best agency to be giving dietary advice. They have so many conflicts of interest."
Demolish the Food Pyramid | Harvard Magazine
In the wild, animals instinctively find and consume the foods best adapted to their bodies. Not so for humans. Agribusinesses, fast-food chains...
www.harvardmagazine.com
So much blindness, limb loss etc was multiplied by people who knew better. Ever hear the Enron tapes where execs were laughing at how stupid their victims were? Those same kinds of people are in the health matrix. Some know what they are doing 100% and others are just droids marching in line.
Pfizer very quietly agrees to settle 10,000 cancer lawsuits... - Revolver News
They lied again, what a shock.
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EU Investigates Ozempic Maker After Reports Of Suicidal Thoughts
The Danish pharma giant finds itself under scrutiny once again- this time, from European regulators.
www.forbes.com
Can Ozempic Cause Suicidal Thoughts? Here's What The Research Says
Over 60 reported cases of suicidal ideation were reported from patients using semaglutide—the generic name for Ozempic and Wegovy—since 2018.
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Too much work!!!
Depression and anxiety: Exercise eases symptoms
Research on depression and anxiety shows that exercise and other physical activity can lessen anxiety and help mood and other health problems get better.
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I have been watching alot of Youtube vids on bodybuilding and health. While some good info can be gleaned, there is also alot of nonsense. Not everything works for everyone..cutting out everything is just a bad strategy. Your daily diet needs to be a routine. You need to rewire your everyday. Yet you can splurge on your faves when you want. I just discovered these Mike Hot Sauce Herrs Pretzels that are amazing. I will eat a bag of that a week or maybe even the Synders Cheese Pretzel Pieces. Yes its bad you, no I do not care. If the rest of the time I am eating healthy throughout the day and almost never drinking and get my protein intake, I am fine with this snacking
I am also horrified by some of these health guys saying Oatmeal is terrible for you..have you seen that @Knight Shift. Its my morning go to...double serving with a scoop of protein powder and berries mixed in and it keeps me satiated for 4-5 hour.
the paleo diet...meh who wants to just eat meat all the time, thats not fun, that said I am now incorporating more beef and steak into my diet again to go with the mainstay of chicken and ground turkey. Also eat plenty of rice, sweet potatoes, I still do sandwiches of chicken at lunch with bread, blueberries, raspberries, grapefruit, apples, watermelon, beans, greek yogurt, cottage cheese, barley, air fryed veggies like peppers, onion, brocolli and the occasional protein bar in a pinch.
and I usually do keep a box of frosted mini wheats and raisin bran in the cabinet but takes me a year to go through those 2 boxes. Just like the comfort of them being there for biweekly rations.
I am also horrified by some of these health guys saying Oatmeal is terrible for you..have you seen that @Knight Shift. Its my morning go to...double serving with a scoop of protein powder and berries mixed in and it keeps me satiated for 4-5 hour.
the paleo diet...meh who wants to just eat meat all the time, thats not fun, that said I am now incorporating more beef and steak into my diet again to go with the mainstay of chicken and ground turkey. Also eat plenty of rice, sweet potatoes, I still do sandwiches of chicken at lunch with bread, blueberries, raspberries, grapefruit, apples, watermelon, beans, greek yogurt, cottage cheese, barley, air fryed veggies like peppers, onion, brocolli and the occasional protein bar in a pinch.
and I usually do keep a box of frosted mini wheats and raisin bran in the cabinet but takes me a year to go through those 2 boxes. Just like the comfort of them being there for biweekly rations.
Paleo diet? Is it really a good idea to eat the same way as people who normally lived to 28-30 years old. LOL!
certainly good advice for some but not all and I guess it depends on where you are starting from and how much you have to lose. But little changes start to add up.That is what we did.
Eliminated:
1. Bread, rolls, bagels
2. All snacks such as pretzels, chips
3. All traditional pasta products
4. Cookies, donuts, sweets, sugar, snack bars, sneaky protein bars that are full of additives
5. Seed oils (known as the hateful 8)
6. Cold cuts except on very rare occasions
7. Starchy foods such as french fries and other fried foods
8. Fast food (we never ate much fast food anyway)
9. Diet sodas, diet iced teas, etc.
Reduced:
1. Red meat- used to eat 2-4 times per week, now 1-2 times per week.
2. Desserts
3. Cheese
Substituted/Increased:
1. Greek yogurt with no sugar added
2. Blueberries, rasberries, blackberries, added to yogurt
3. Fish, especially salmon
4. Lean chicken and turkey
5. Vegetables such as asparagus and broccoli
6. Water, lots of water
7. Home brewed iced teas
We not only lost weight. We feel a lot better and spend less money on food.
IMO, one of the more interesting "tools" available now is Hava, which is an app available for Iphones and Android. A web link is provided below. It basically scores foods for satiety. Higher protein sources such as fish and chicken score very high. Consuming higher satiety foods will make a person feel full or satiated faster, eating less. Hedonic foods such as chips and ice cream literally start a feeding frenzy.
at 54 ive basically been the same weight since I started working out heavily back in the late 90s so for me I am able to still incorporate my favorite indulgences and a bit fortunate my job allows for a higher metabolism than most who might be stuck in front of a computer.
I personally eat bread, snack foods, pasta, some protein bars which are very low in sugar like Quest, not much of a sweets guy at all and yes sugar is the #1 thing to cut out, still eat some lunch meat turkey or chicken, will eat fries sometime, but like doing my own fries from red potatoes in the air fryer seasoned, fast food..yup not even 5 times in the last 15 years, diet soda occasionally and getting into those ICE drinks
im increasing my red meat actually
desserts never did
cheese..yes lots of cheese
here is where you shine on your substitute/increases list.....those first 6 are incredible pieces of advice for people to take to heart
correct me if Im wrong but Lustig isnt a fan of oatmealWe had a skinny guy in the office who had bags of chips, pretzels, cookie and non-diet soda in his office. He would eat one cookie and the opened package would be in his office for months. He would often pick up lunch and come back with some really unhealthy crap. He seemed to never gain a pound. 🤷♂️
Robert Lustig, MD had spoken and written extensively on the topic on how some people must quite alcohol and sugar consumption completely. It's way over the brain capacity of the board expert here, but there are lots of YouTube videos where he discusses the issues.
"Elucidation of fructose metabolism in liver and fructose action in brain demonstrate three parallelisms with ethanol. First, hepatic fructose metabolism is similar to ethanol, as they both serve as substrates for de novo lipogenesis, and in the process both promote hepatic insulin resistance, dyslipidemia, and hepatic steatosis. Second, fructosylation of proteins with resultant superoxide formation can result in hepatic inflammation similar to acetaldehyde, an intermediary metabolite of ethanol. Lastly, by stimulating the "hedonic pathway" of the brain both directly and indirectly, fructose creates habituation, and possibly dependence; also paralleling ethanol. Thus, fructose induces alterations in both hepatic metabolism and central nervous system energy signaling, leading to a "vicious cycle" of excessive consumption and disease consistent with metabolic syndrome."
Fructose: metabolic, hedonic, and societal parallels with ethanol - PubMed
Rates of fructose consumption continue to rise nationwide and have been linked to rising rates of obesity, type 2 diabetes, and metabolic syndrome. Because obesity has been equated with addiction, and because of their evolutionary commonalities, we chose to examine the metabolic, hedonic, and...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Lots of bad advice on YouTube. Hate those that tell people YOU must do THIS!!!! Not everyone is the same, as you said.
Never been an oatmeal fan. Not as far as healthy aspect, just the taste/texture. The Mrs likes porridge, and same reaction from me, blech. Not much a of a breakfast person. The only thing I really like are breakfast meats like pork roll and bacon. Easier to just start with lunch.
If my post came off as "you should do this," that's not what I meant. Have said many times n=1, where n=me and not anybody else. Each person is unique, has their own go to strategies and weaknesses for food. I was trending towards diabetes for a variety of reasons, but I have reversed course, and I am in better shape now (older than you) than 20 years ago. I take the stairs to the 8th floor at work each morning, barely getting winded. 10 or 20 years ago, I could have been gassed at the 4th floor.
I'm not that big on red meat any more, but I am not against it. Lean beef is an excellent source of protein and iron. I favor salmon and lean poultry, but I'm up for some lean ground beef or a nice steak once in a while.
Breads, pasta and rice are real problems for me. Family history of diabetes. I compensated carb cutting by going to cheese, but cheese is calorie dense, and many cheeses have high saturated fat. I have to watch my cholesterol.
We are mostly water and lightly flavored seltzers and home-brewed iced teas. The packaged teas are expensive and have lots a questionable preservatives and sweeteners. We found a blend of brewed teas we like.
IMO, Quest bars are garbage. Read the ingredients. Lots of questionable ingredients, but you do you.
Great replies by you!
