We started being home by ourselves in 2nd or 3rd gradeAt what age are kids generally being home by themselves after school?
These days, I presume the kids are much older
We started being home by ourselves in 2nd or 3rd gradeAt what age are kids generally being home by themselves after school?
The one we're looking at is around 8k for elementaryIs Catholic elementary school really 15k nowadays ? My guess it’s gonna be about 10k per year all in …uniforms , fundraising etc. just a guess
I am also gonna guess the normal ccd wouldn’t cut it in the OPs case. Hard to get comparable instruction as there just wouldn’t be enough time to duplicate the daily , repetitive instruction like starting science class with the Hail Mary.
But obviously he would know .
When to raid the 529 is another thread ! Put that with what age to take social security thread !The one we're looking at is around 8k for elementary
High school is around 15k
So it's a 75k proposition (present day - it'll surely rise in the coming years) for 7 years of catholic school
I think tapping the 529 for non public high schools is also an option, but I have to look into that further
Would rather hold off on that as long as we can
Yep, things likely won't get easier and some kids are very headstrong. I knew I was an atheist by the time I was 10-11 and fought going to church (Lutheran) every Sunday until my parents (divorced by then) made me a deal, saying I could decide if I wanted to keep going to church as long as I completed the confirmation process (at age 12). I thought that was fair, so that was our agreement and I actually enjoyed the weekly religious instruction and discussions/arguments with our pastor who was a very cool guy and I was confirmed and that was the last time I was ever in a church of my own volition.That's the million dollar question we're struggling with
We're tying to do that right now, but feel the older she gets, the tougher it's going to be
Kids tend to get very individualistic the older they get, wanting to carve their own path
I'd rather have a child doing that then one I have to kick in the pants, but feel it's better suited to have her experience that in the Catholic school setting
I thought being an adult would be more fun than this!When to raid the 529 is another thread ! Put that with what age to take social security thread !
Those are all solid pointsYep, things likely won't get easier and some kids are very headstrong. I knew I was an atheist by the time I was 10-11 and fought going to church (Lutheran) every Sunday until my parents (divorced by then) made me a deal, saying I could decide if I wanted to keep going to church as long as I completed the confirmation process (at age 12). I thought that was fair, so that was our agreement and I actually enjoyed the weekly religious instruction and discussions/arguments with our pastor who was a very cool guy and I was confirmed and that was the last time I was ever in a church of my own volition.
I can't even imagine the fights we would've had if my folks hadn't relented (I think the fact that I got all A's helped - wasn't like I was a delinquent - at least not that they knew about, lol). Our son was raised without any formal religion, although we talked a lot about religion, philosophy and science and gave him plenty of books on those topics by the time he was 9-10, as he was a voracious reader. He knew we weren't religious, but we regularly offered to take him to any place of worship if that's what he wanted, but he never did, and he ended up as non-religious as we are. You might want to at least think about how you'd respond if your daughter either wanted to give up on religion or maybe simply wants to go to the local public school. It could happen. Good luck regardless.
Sorry, was looking up HS costs; presumably middle school is cheaper.Is Catholic elementary school really 15k nowadays ? My guess it’s gonna be about 10k per year all in …uniforms , fundraising etc. just a guess
I am also gonna guess the normal ccd wouldn’t cut it in the OPs case. Hard to get comparable instruction as there just wouldn’t be enough time to duplicate the daily , repetitive instruction like starting science class with the Hail Mary.
But obviously he would know .
He said 8k. Probably more with fundraising and other fees. Then the family has to show they “belong” to a church in the dicocse or even the parish of the school . The church always gets theirs lol!Sorry, was looking up HS costs; presumably middle school is cheaper.
Why segregate your life? No religion in school, but religion afterwards and on the weekend? We are mediocre Catholics but completed the sacraments and value its basic teachings/culture.Question for you. While I'm not religious, obviously you are, so perhaps I'm missing something here. Is there any way your daughter could get frequent/daily religious instruction either at home or elsewhere that is of comparable quality as what one might get in a school? You might then be able to meet your religious goals for her outside of school, which might then allow you to send her to a top public school and get at least as good of an education - while saving you $15K or more.
+1When to raid the 529 is another thread ! Put that with what age to take social security thread !
When to raid the 529 is another thread ! Put that with what age to take social security thread !
You just like it because they keep a lot of the riff raff out.All children deserve a private school education. :)
Control of the community and peer group is a big positive! :)You just like it because they keep a lot of the riff raff out.
Listen I get it I am a public school teacher and believe that if people feel that strongly about the religious aspect of school then they should do it. I almost sent my son to private school. So I do get itIt's a choice, we live in a nice town in Monmouth County, which kind of sucks we'll be doing this b/c a large initial reason we moved into the town 12 years ago was b/c of the schools
You should add in what age you legendarily started taking Geritol and wearing Depends.
Not everything a legend does is legendary . This legend is limited to posts on this boardYou should add in what age you legendarily started taking Geritol and wearing Depends.
You’re not wrong on a general level if you’re considering all NJ public schools. OP mentioned he lives in Monmouth County. There is no private school in the area that is beating the county academies in this metric. None. And it’s not debatable. But there is no religious aspect there.Private schools have a much better record of getting kids into top universities. The data is clear. Not sure about diocese based parochial schools, but their track record is more mixed. Just got to do your own research.
He mentioned being close enough to the Princeton area to consider those private schools.You’re not wrong on a general level if you’re considering all NJ public schools. OP mentioned he lives in Monmouth County. There is no private school in the area that is beating the county academies in this metric. None. And it’s not debatable. But there is no religious aspect there.
Different situation here, but a little note in terms of timing. We moved across country and wouldn’t have done it if our daughter wasn’t 100% on board. She finished out 6th grade, graduating with all of her friends so it was a nice clean break since they were headed to a new school in 7th anyway . A few of her closer friends were going in different directions to private schools as well so that helped.The schools are fine right now, it's more anticipating what the future holds, hormones, lack of discipline & accountability, and most importantly the religious aspect
New school next year and year after for 4th and 5th grade, then middle school is 6-8
There's bussing - which is also tricky with leaving a 9 year old home alone if we're at work (vs. she'll be 11 in 5th grade), and the after care option doesn't really work b'c neither of us work close to the school
I got the sense that he is in the Freehold/Colts Neck area along 537/Kozlowski Road vicinity. If I have that correct that is a tough commute to Princeton area for a kid.He mentioned being close enough to the Princeton area to consider those private schools.
Gotta trust what he says.I got the sense that he is in the Freehold/Colts Neck area along 537/Kozlowski Road vicinity. If I have that correct that is a tough commute to Princeton area for a kid.
To save $10-15K per year, which isn't trivial. Plus, going to a school that isn't in one's town (very likely) is far more "segregation in life" than being in public school in one's town and adding a bit of religious content/instruction on top of that. And I'm pretty sure the diversity of cultures/holidays in a public school exceeds that of most Catholic schools.Why segregate your life? No religion in school, but religion afterwards and on the weekend? We are mediocre Catholics but completed the sacraments and value its basic teachings/culture.
Our school is an independent Catholic school (no diocese, similar to Delbarton) so it is prep first with religion on the side. We love the fact that we don't need to silo our lives. We celebrate all of our holidays in school or outside. And better yet, only half the students here are Catholic, so we get to celebrate everyone's holidays and religious culture.
Definitely not. Public schools don't celebrate any religious holidays.To save $10-15K per year, which isn't trivial. Plus, going to a school that isn't in one's town (very likely) is far more "segregation in life" than being in public school in one's town and adding a bit of religious content/instruction on top of that. And I'm pretty sure the diversity of cultures/holidays in a public school exceeds that of most Catholic schools.
It's a choice, we live in a nice town in Monmouth County, which kind of sucks we'll be doing this b/c a large initial reason we moved into the town 12 years ago was b/c of the schools
You’re not wrong on a general level if you’re considering all NJ public schools. OP mentioned he lives in Monmouth County. There is no private school in the area that is beating the county academies in this metric. None. And it’s not debatable. But there is no religious aspect there.
I got the sense that he is in the Freehold/Colts Neck area along 537/Kozlowski Road vicinity. If I have that correct that is a tough commute to Princeton area for a kid.
Definitely not. Public schools don't celebrate any religious holidays.
My guess is that public school quality is not the only thing the OP considered in choosing where he and his family should live. So perhaps it makes sense for him to be living there even if he chooses not to use its public schools. I doubt he's the only person living in his area for reasons other than the schools.This is the funny aspect to me. There's probably a lot of places in NJ with lower taxes and cruddy public schools so you would save money. That or living in NYC - depending on how the city income tax could come into play- might make more sense.
Yep, things likely won't get easier and some kids are very headstrong. I knew I was an atheist by the time I was 10-11 and fought going to church (Lutheran) every Sunday until my parents (divorced by then) made me a deal, saying I could decide if I wanted to keep going to church as long as I completed the confirmation process (at age 12). I thought that was fair, so that was our agreement and I actually enjoyed the weekly religious instruction and discussions/arguments with our pastor who was a very cool guy and I was confirmed and that was the last time I was ever in a church of my own volition.
I can't even imagine the fights we would've had if my folks hadn't relented (I think the fact that I got all A's helped - wasn't like I was a delinquent - at least not that they knew about, lol). Our son was raised without any formal religion, although we talked a lot about religion, philosophy and science and gave him plenty of books on those topics by the time he was 9-10, as he was a voracious reader. He knew we weren't religious, but we regularly offered to take him to any place of worship if that's what he wanted, but he never did, and he ended up as non-religious as we are. You might want to at least think about how you'd respond if your daughter either wanted to give up on religion or maybe simply wants to go to the local public school. It could happen. Good luck regardless.
My guess is that public school quality is not the only thing the OP considered in choosing where he and his family should live. So perhaps it makes sense for him to be living there even if he chooses not to use its public schools. I doubt he's the only person living in his area for reasons other than the schools.
I was talking about days off. Pretty sure Catholic schools aren't closing schools on Yom Kippur or Diwali...Definitely not. Public schools don't celebrate any religious holidays.
That's true, but we moved here b/c we love this area (close to the beach, scenic, relaxing) and close to my wife's job as a teacher (I'm in sales so I can live and work wherever)This is the funny aspect to me. There's probably a lot of places in NJ with lower taxes and cruddy public schools so you would save money. That or living in NYC - depending on how the city income tax could come into play- might make more sense.
I had a friend who built a mansion in Colts Neck and sent his kids to CBA. I think it was mainly for sports, but one kid ended up being the valedictorian. Both have done well.Idk what town OP lives in, but Holmdel or Rumson-Fair Haven HS is almost certainly as well, and probably the bulk of Freehold Regional.
People move to that area for a reason. And it is absolutely not to send their kids to SJV, RBC or CBA.
We grew up in ReadingtonIdk what town OP lives in, but Holmdel or Rumson-Fair Haven HS is almost certainly as well, and probably the bulk of Freehold Regional.
People move to that area for a reason. And it is absolutely not to send their kids to SJV, RBC or CBA.
We're off 537 near Kozloski like Tom mentionedIf this is accurate, I would love to hear our private school advocates share the hard data showing which commutable private schools are superior to Colts Neck or Freehold Boro HS. Since it's so obvious should be easy, right?
This is accurate, we moved here b/c we loved the area and the schools were goodMy guess is that public school quality is not the only thing the OP considered in choosing where he and his family should live. So perhaps it makes sense for him to be living there even if he chooses not to use its public schools. I doubt he's the only person living in his area for reasons other than the schools.
Good ole St. Joes. I grew up in East Brunswick and they were our biggest basketball rivals. I always played well in their gym. Got 34 points one game (I think my junior year).We grew up in Readington
Moved from Scotch Plains when I was 7
My parents moved there b/c it was country and scenic
They didn't move away from SP b/c it was bad
If they could have afforded private / parchioal school, that's where they would have sent me (at least for high school), even though Readington had great public schools
Maybe not IHS, but St. Joes in Metchuen or Bishop Ahr would have likely been the choices if the $ was there (PDS, Delby etc. weren't their style so they woudnlt have given it much thought even if we had the $)
There's no denying thatMaybe. But a home across the border in Middlesex County in Old Bridge or Ocean County would be a step into lower prices. Schools would be lesser but then that wouldn't figure into the calculus. And there's the same offering in home styles, lots of McMansions, bigger lots, suburban neighborhoods. The real walkable towns in Monmouth, Red Bank aside, have lesser schools as well.
I mean I thank people like that who use their high property taxes to fund my public education though it just strikes me as an odd financial choice.