Politi and Canzano: Schiano to Oregon?

[Knight Shift]

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...why_the_former_rutger.html#incart_river_index

The premise of the column is Oregon needs defense. Also based on an article from John Canzano at The Oregonian:
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or..._oregon_fires_mark_helf.html#incart_big-photo

Schiano would be a course correction for Oregon. His defense wouldn't be generous. He has experience coaching in the NFL and in major college football. He won 11 games once at Rutgers, and according to a source involved in the hiring process at Oregon, "According to his peer groups, he's one of the best."

"Schiano would present a formidable foe for Washington's Chris Petersen and would give Oregon a tough-guy identity that matches what Oregon State has with Gary Andersen. I wonder, too, if Schiano's hiring at Oregon could flip a Huskies commit such as Elijah Molden (West Linn High) back to the Ducks."

 

[bac2therac]

that will go over well with the fans there, they can and will do better

 

[Plum Street]

I think schiano has to coach 2 years at Ohio state

 

[Rokodesh]

Schiano doesn't fit them at all. Personality wise, scheme wise, culture wise, etc.

 

[Beancounter88]

I would think Scott Frost or Lane Kiffin are the top candidates (maybe Josh McDaniels). Need young, flamboyant coach who's offensively-minded in my mind. A defensive curmudgeon at a place that's been recruiting offensive playmakers for years doesn't sound like a good fit.

 

[Knight Shift]

I would think Scott Frost or Lane Kiffin are the top candidates (maybe Josh McDaniels). Need young, flamboyant coach who's offensively-minded in my mind. A defensive curmudgeon at a place that's been recruiting offensive playmakers for years doesn't sound like a good fit.

The problem with Oregon is apparently defense.
Seems that with the exception of Washington, and maybe a couple of others, several PAC12 teams like Oregon, Cal and WSU are like Big 12 teams now--all offense and no defense.

 

[rutgersguy1]

I do think Schiano can resurrect himself under Meyer the same way Kiffin has a little now under Saban. Whether it's this year or next, I don't know. Prior to his stint with Meyer I don't think jobs like this were realistically available for him regardless of his name always being thrown out for them.

Now after 1-2 years with Meyer, I can find his name plausible for higher profile jobs although I'm still not sure if he's a fit at Oregon itself.

I actually do agree with the defensive minded coach bit. That's why I mentioned Venables in the other thread if they want to go the coordinator route. He's been a top DC both at OU/Clemson and they've both produced strong offenses so it's not something he's unfamiliar with. Only thing I don't know about is his demeanor and if that's the reason he's never gotten a HC job after a decade or so as DC.

Personally, I like Les Miles but his name hasn't really popped up here or anywhere else for that matter. He's hired a strong offensive coach like Gundy at Ok. State even though he had trouble at LSU and he's hired good DCs at LSU as well. His recruiting prowess might bring some Cali talent to Eugene, add in his ties in the South and I think you have a good shot to do damage.

 

[knightfan7]

I think schiano has to coach 2 years at Ohio state

If you mean an agreement between Urban and Greg, I doubt he'd expect Greg to stay if a P5 school comes calling. There is much more than boss-employee here. They have been very good friends for a very long time.

 

[MozRU]

This has Lane Kiffin written all over it.

I may be in the minority, but 9 times out of 10, as an AD, I would only hire Offensive minded HC's. A revolving door at OC with a HC who is a defensive guy, is a death kneel for a college football program (you need stability on offense and score 25+ pts a game). As long as the HC is an offensive guy (doesn't need to actually call the plays), you can lose an OC.

You can always hire an DC and personally as a HC, prioritize defense when recruiting when needed. As GS saw, when you have turnover at OC, your program is doomed (see photo).

Oregon should hire Lane Kiffin. He's ready (If you get beyond the nonsense, he did a very good job at USC with two hands tied behind his back)

 

[BlockR]

Flecks name also mentioned for this job

 

[RutgersRaRa]

If you mean an agreement between Urban and Greg, I doubt he'd expect Greg to stay if a P5 school comes calling. There is much more than boss-employee here. They have been very good friends for a very long time.

And Urban would probably prefer a non-B1G program for Greg's next job offer.

 

[BuckeyeLegion]

FWIW, Phil Knight was at Ohio State for the game over the weekend and in the locker room after.

 

[BlockR]

good insight of Phil Knight being in OSU locker room..met with Schiano?.
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or..._oregon_fires_mark_helf.html#incart_big-photo

 

[miketd1]

Power football in Oregon?

That would certainly be a sight to see...

 

[Knight Shift]

good insight of Phil Knight being in OSU locker room..met with Schiano?.
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or..._oregon_fires_mark_helf.html#incart_big-photo

That article looks familiar.

 

[rutgersdave]

On the Notre Dame Board, several of their fans wants Schiano as their Head Coach. I think Schiano would be a better fit at ND than Oregon. FLeck was also considered but still too inexperienced.

It appears to be Schiano and Fleck as the next big candidates. Kiffin already had several chances and failed and most fans remember it.

 

[rutgersdave]

This has Lane Kiffin written all over it.

I may be in the minority, but 9 times out of 10, as an AD, I would only hire Offensive minded HC's. A revolving door at OC with a HC who is a defensive guy, is a death kneel for a college football program (you need stability on offense and score 25+ pts a game). As long as the HC is an offensive guy (doesn't need to actually call the plays), you can lose an OC.

You can always hire an DC and personally as a HC, prioritize defense when recruiting when needed. As GS saw, when you have turnover at OC, your program is doomed (see photo).

Oregon should hire Lane Kiffin. He's ready (If you get beyond the nonsense, he did a very good job at USC with two hands tied behind his back)

ND fans remember Kiffin and don't want him as a possibility.

 

[rutgersdave]

The Pittsburgh coach will also be next in line for a big coaching gig, maybe ND.

 

[Knight Shift]

The Pittsburgh coach will also be next in line for a big coaching gig, maybe ND.

Really? Based on 8-4?

 

[MozRU]

ND fans remember Kiffin and don't want him as a possibility.

I don't remember suggesting Kiffin to ND.

 

[RUtix4me]

I wonder, if he gets it, does he coach the bowl game or leave right away?

 

[RUich]

Schiano said that he was changing how he dealt with certain situations after the TB firing. I assume his tenure this past season went well with no problems. I think he is really best suited to be a college coach anyway.

 

[RUforester72]

Some commenters in the Oregon newspaper are bringing up the Sandusky connection. Already.

 

[Knight Shift]

Some commenters in the Oregon newspaper are bringing up the Sandusky connection. Already.

But, but, but, but, the Nits say ONLY Rutgers fans are still obsessed with Sandusky.
Frequently see national articles and articles across the country where fans are still disgusted by PSU.

 

[Knight Shift]

that will go over well with the fans there, they can and will do better

Are you Nostradamus, or did you put all of those negative comments to the story in The Oregonian?

Reaction has been pretty strongly against Greg.

 

[LotusAggressor]

The problem with Oregon is apparently defense.
Seems that with the exception of Washington, and maybe a couple of others, several PAC12 teams like Oregon, Cal and WSU are like Big 12 teams now--all offense and no defense.

Brady Hoke being their DC was a big part of Oregon's contribution to that. He's becoming the Ted McGinley of coaches: a program killer.

 

[MYHATINTHERING]

Are you Nostradamus, or did you put all of those negative comments to the story in The Oregonian?

Reaction has been pretty strongly against Greg.

rightfully so, his resume is like pyrite

 

[RU MAN]

I would think Scott Frost or Lane Kiffin are the top candidates (maybe Josh McDaniels). Need young, flamboyant coach who's offensively-minded in my mind. A defensive curmudgeon at a place that's been recruiting offensive playmakers for years doesn't sound like a good fit.

You're right. I could see Scott Frost going back there. Oregon needs to hire a better DC, but not have someone like Schiano as the HC. It goes completely against the grain of what Oregon football is.

 

[srru86]

But, but, but, but, the Nits say ONLY Rutgers fans are still obsessed with Sandusky.

Unfortunately it is also some of our fans that seem to think because they're winning again we have to let the deniers and abettors off the hook.

 

[rutgersdave]

I don't remember suggesting Kiffin to ND.

There were a few ND.fans that suggested Kiffin but they blew him off.

 

[MADHAT1]

You're right. I could see Scott Frost going back there. Oregon needs to hire a better DC, but not have someone like Schiano as the HC. It goes completely against the grain of what Oregon football is.

Unless Schiano hired an OC that plays a system like the Ducks run and gives that OC full authority to do his job as he sees fit, Schiano would be a poor choice.
Then there's the Sandusky connection being brought up, unless Greg meets that head on with a statement of exactly what he knew and possible rumors he heard, doubt Oregon would hire him with the backlash they might face if Schiano didn't address the claim he saw something.

Those who think Scott Frost might be hired I believe are right.
Especially the way he turned UCF around this season, his first as a HC coming from being the Ducks' OC from 2013 till taking the UCf HC position this season

 

[RutgersRaRa]

But, but, but, but, the Nits say ONLY Rutgers fans are still obsessed with Sandusky.
Frequently see national articles and articles across the country where fans are still disgusted by PSU.

Spend any time on tMB and you'll see that there are many fans around the country that make some of our our most outspoken fans' comments seem tame.

 

[AshSaturday]

Who's Rudy Carpernter? Tweeted his money is on Schiano. That said I think Schiano would be a disaster at either Oregon or Notre Dame. Shoot Kelly's having a tough time at Notre Dame-thought he was a lock for success.

With all of his money Knight can't buy someone better than Schiano?

 

[ashokan]

On the Notre Dame Board, several of their fans wants Schiano as their Head Coach. I think Schiano would be a better fit at ND than Oregon. FLeck was also considered but still too inexperienced.

It appears to be Schiano and Fleck as the next big candidates. Kiffin already had several chances and failed and most fans remember it.

GS is perfect for ND. He's a big Catholic with that Father Flanagan/Boy's Town approach. He's big on academics. He can recruit NJ and FL and now the Mid West. He could be second coming of Ara

 

[BigRnj]

Flood is available :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[MYHATINTHERING]

GS is perfect for ND. He's a big Catholic with that Father Flanagan/Boy's Town approach. He's big on academics. He can recruit NJ and FL and now the Mid West. He could be second coming of Ara

sit down, have a smoke or dip or chew some gum, take a nap when finished, wake up and delete this because GS is as much a ND guy as I am a BC guy

 

[AshSaturday]

GS is perfect for ND. He's a big Catholic with that Father Flanagan/Boy's Town approach. He's big on academics. He can recruit NJ and FL and now the Mid West. He could be second coming of Ara

So's Sandusky...

 

[AshSaturday]

GS is perfect for ND. He's a big Catholic with that Father Flanagan/Boy's Town approach. He's big on academics. He can recruit NJ and FL and now the Mid West. He could be second coming of Ara

See the other thread with Knightfan7 getting a 5 star date for troKnight. Maybe she's into GangB*ngs...

 

[MYHATINTHERING]

So's Sandusky...

lol

 

[RUJohnny99]

Who's Rudy Carpernter? Tweeted his money is on Schiano. That said I think Schiano would be a disaster at either Oregon or Notre Dame. Shoot Kelly's having a tough time at Notre Dame-thought he was a lock for success.

With all of his money Knight can't buy someone better than Schiano?

The ASU QB who beat us in the insight bowl