Question

[NickRU714]

Give me a break. They do not call 3 seconds anymore despite fans screaming for it and it has disappeared. Carrying gets called only when blant and an advantage has been created by the offensive player. The cylinder rule is hardly ever called. 3 rules that you can emphasize but are no longer a part of the game. The cylinder rule the most useless one because a foul can be called with contact but 3 seconds needs to be an enforced rule and it is not. Carrying the ball but just dribbling going no where is tolerated even though it isa rule but because no advantage is created it isn’t called

So should they remove 3 second and carry all together?

That was my point.
Just because these rules are not called (when they likely should) doesn't justify removing it from the rule book altogether
In my opinion.

Fir examole : personally, I'd be fine getting rid of 3 seconds. But that's because I think rules restricting "strategy" need to be minimized.
Refs could call every single 3 second violation correctly.
I'd still be in favor of getting rid of it.

 

[goru7]

So should they remove 3 second and carry all together?

That was my point.
Just because these rules are not called (when they likely should) doesn't justify removing it from the rule book altogether
In my opinion.

Fir examole : personally, I'd be fine getting rid of 3 seconds. But that's because I think rules restricting "strategy" need to be minimized.
Refs could call every single 3 second violation correctly.
I'd still be in favor of getting rid of it.

The cylinder rule punishes a team for doing something good , playing defense and pressuring a ball handler who decides to pick up his dribble. I think I have seen it called 1 time this year against Houston and St. John’s and I have watched about 10-14 of their games this year. The cylinder Rule could have been called 5-10 times on each game but then the team’s trademark defense would suffer. So it is almost never called.
The 3 point rule should be called because you are giving the offensive team an unnecessary advantage. Edey last year camped in there 5-6 sevconds all the time and it was an unnecessary advantage to Purdue. I am shocked that call had been removed from the game the last 5/10 years.

 

[NickRU714]

The cylinder rule punishes a team for doing something good , playing defense and pressuring a ball handler who decides to pick up his dribble. I think I have seen it called 1 time this year against Houston and St. John’s and I have watched about 10-14 of their games this year. The cylinder Rule could have been called 5-10 times on each game but then the team’s trademark defense would suffer. So it is almost never called.
The 3 point rule should be called because you are giving the offensive team an unnecessary advantage. Edey last year camped in there 5-6 sevconds all the time and it was an unnecessary advantage to Purdue. I am shocked that call had been removed from the game the last 5/10 years.

I don't think your fully understanding the cylinder rule.
The cylinder rule applies to and is called a lot more than people realize.
It's just not specially called out as the "cylinder rule".

It's preventing a lot more than people realize.

Suppose someone picks up their dribble at top of the key.
The defender should be able to literally run within 1in off their body so they can't move or pivot?

Or stand right on top of them and don't let them shoot.

Have to let a shooter have space to land?

That's all cylinder rule.

 

[NickRU714]

How is 3 second an advantage?
Great. Let Edey hang out there all game.
That gives me a free offensive player on the perimeter.

It's pure defensive strategy against offensive strategy.

What's the difference between 3 second and a zone defense?
Why restrict it to just the lane?

That's bad offense if you can't scheme against knowing exactly where a defender will already be.

 

[goru7]

I don't think your fully understanding the cylinder rule.
The cylinder rule applies to and is called a lot more than people realize.
It's just not specially called out as the "cylinder rule".

It's preventing a lot more than people realize.

Suppose someone picks up their dribble at top of the key.
The defender should be able to literally run within 1in off their body so they can't move or pivot?

Or stand right on top of them and don't let them shoot.

Have to let a shooter have space to land?

That's all cylinder rule.

No only the room to land is called a lot because you would have a lot of sprained or broken ankles. That is a good rule.
The cylinder rule I am talking about is a close defender to the guy who stopped their dribble. That should almost never be called if the pressure is tight and hands up but allowed to move.

 

[goru7]

How is 3 second an advantage?
Great. Let Edey hang out there all game.
That gives me a free offensive player on the perimeter.

It's pure defensive strategy against offensive strategy.

What's the difference between 3 second and a zone defense?
Why restrict it to just the lane?

That's bad offense if you can't scheme against knowing exactly where a defender will already be.

Get real. No one could move Edey and he shot like 70-75% from he got the ball in the paint close to the rim. Purdue ‘s winning record the last 2 years had a ton to do with dumping the ball to Edey repeatedly. Not an easy scheme on a 7’ 4 guy

 

[zebnatto]

Of course it’s an obvious foul. Never said otherwise. You’re the one insisting it wasn’t a clear foul and shouldn’t have been called, and on top of that there’s an anti-RU conspiracy proved by those calls. Ridiculous. Those were two textbook fouls on RU, period.

Bad 2nd half play gave rise to the loss, not the officiating. Look no further than the Davis and Sommerville defensive shitshow and their wasting possessions with bad shots, or should I say, airballs.

Zebnatto said there “wasn’t a clear foul”? Zebnatto said “there’s an anti-RU conspiracy proved by those calls”? Mama Mia? Dat’s a no my boy.

 

[Shelby65]

Zebnatto said there “wasn’t a clear foul”? Zebnatto said “there’s an anti-RU conspiracy proved by those calls”? Mama Mia? Dat’s a no my boy.

Sure Zebnatto did. Whining all through this thread about those being bogus.

 

[zebnatto]

Sure Zebnatto did. Whining all through this thread about those being bogus.

You confuse me with some other fella.