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Basketball Rutgers falls late to No. 20 Texas A&M in final Players Era matchup

A&M would not have scored 60 pts if we sat in zone. We should gave forced the shots outside and we didnt
 
you want to know how
1) we are slow on defense
2)reach in non-stop
3)we try to contest every single shot when 75% of time fundamental defense will suffice
4)Let their 2 guards run the paint full speed, out of control and then reach or just foul them & bail them out
5) help defense is non-existent
6) we pick up nobody at 1/2 court we sit at top if Arc

Two things that could have been done
1)Press
2)Zone defense......they had ZERO on WINGS NOTHING AT ALL
Change the game and flip the script
 
Knew game was over when Sommerville went out. Martini can’t play defense e and his two turnovers late devastated our chances. Ebola missing nice alley-oop hurt. Blew a nine point lead, disappointing loss
 
2-15 from 3 point land with 1 being a lucky 30-33fter and we continue to play man-to-man
Zone Defense would have cut down 15 fouls the 2 guards driving the lane out of control and forced them to move ball around the arc.


WE PLAYED ZONE AND THEY GOT MULTIPLE DUNKS IN A ROW

Jesus ****ing Christ I try to be more respectful but some of you guys just go out of your way to be stupid.
 
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Here's the problem and have hinted at this early in season. This is a 2 person team. The other 3 guys on the court have to sacrifice everything to fit their game into a 2 person team. We are not going to win shit with 2 guys taking 60% plus of shots. Pike needs to turn this into a 5 person team not a 2 person team
Disagree, the other 3 need to know their roles, Hayes needs to hit and take 3’s if he does we win. He didn’t hit when he took them and passed when he should’ve taken them.
Davis, needs to know who he is! Play D and pass, don’t dribble don’t shoot. He does that we win.
Martini just don’t make mistakes, he does that we win.
Anyone of those 3, we win
Add to it Pikes in game coaching including playing zone, making in game adjustments, using timeouts to reset, and lastly player rotation.
Any other coach in the big 10 coaching this team in this game today wins this game❗️
 
freshman mistake on Summerville 5th, that’s gonna happen. But he should not have been in there for last play of first half when he got his third
 
freshman mistake on Summerville 5th, that’s gonna happen. But he should not have been in there for last play of first half when he got his third
At least he got to pose and mock the other team's center before he stupidly fouled him for no reason and removed himself permanently from the game.
 
We are still too casual with the ball.

Hopefully with this loss we finally learn our lesson.
 
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WE PLAYED ZONE AND THEY GOT MULTIPLE DUNKS IN A ROW

Jesus ****ing Christ I try to be more respectful but some of you guys just go out of your way to be stupid.
Agree they were getting killed on the boards in the zone even worse than in man
 
Yes, I understand. He made bad plays at the end of the games. Trusting a guy who has played as well as he did to take charge at the end of the game is not bad coaching regardless of how it worked out a couple times.
It's his history. It isn't just a couple of times. That's been his end game play for years.
His job is too make sure the right decision is made regardless of this one on one strategy. Especially with a TO in his pocket.
You don't take a three when you've been driving all game and need 1. You don't drive for that play when you need a three.
Sorry.Thst' s coaching .
 
I think our team played hard in all three games in Vegas. Alabama was # 1 in the country in some preseason polls and we played them down to the wire and Texas A & M might be the best rebounding team in the country and again the game went right down to the wire. We have 9 of our 12 scholarship players being new to this team and most of you are ripping our coach and our players. It makes me angry to read all of the criticism against our coach and our players. They work hard every day but most of those posting are just negative nellies. Most I think are not even long suffering RU fans. This team is so much better since Pikiell became our coach. I guess you would like to go back to the Littlepage and Hill days. We are respected now around the country and we are getting respect. We need support not constant bashing. I went to Las Vegas and supported our team. Maybe some of those posting here should do the same. I am embarrassed to read such negativity.
 
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You think they need another season?? Lol

It's the disconnect between CBB fans and elite CBB players.

Obviously Ace and Dylan aren't done developing.
But they don't need to do to get drafted.
In fact, they'll specifically get drsfted because they need more development but are already so good as such a young age.

Many CBB fans think you need to be fully developed before going to the NBA.
They fail to realize elite players want to be developed and great in the NBA and not in college.
That's why players declare for the NBA as soon as they can.
 
WE PLAYED ZONE AND THEY GOT MULTIPLE DUNKS IN A ROW

Jesus ****ing Christ I try to be more respectful but some of you guys just go out of your way to be stupid.

agreed...

we were defending the 2-3 quite far out...thought we could've tried packing it in a bit to try and force them into shooters but it was clear they had figured it out.

it's also not super easy for a man team to just turn into zone. have to be 5 players really connected to make the zone work and that clearly isn't RU right now.

to me the martini foul when he sure as hell looked like he walled right back to dylan getting clobbered with no call was the game. even time a&m took it hard to the hoop they were at the line. wasn't the same for RU.
 
I ask again, were you actually watching? We got a couple stops when we first brought out the zone. They figured it out and ran in for uncontested dunks like three times in a row before we stopped. The zone was not the answer.
We got stops and stopped fouling. They didnt figure out the zone, we went up to a decent lead, and got lazy. As soon we left zone, the game went right back to how it was previously playing out
 
We got stops and stopped fouling. They didnt figure out the zone, we went up to a decent lead, and got lazy. As soon we left zone, the game went right back to how it was previously playing out

If they didn’t figure out the zone, how did they get those three basically uncontested dunks in a row?
 
WE PLAYED ZONE AND THEY GOT MULTIPLE DUNKS IN A ROW

Jesus ****ing Christ I try to be more respectful but some of you guys just go out of your way to be stupid.
Do you even have any idea why you go to a zone? The play was a ZONE

1) mismatch
2) foul trouble
3) slow the game down change the flow
4) protect your guys in foul trouble. 29 fouls dictated we could not handle them man-man
5) A&M was faster & stronger

The perfect zone would have been a 1-3-1. A&M had nothing on the perimenter. Your back guy would not have had to work hard they sucked. Everything was generated in the paint

A box & 1 if you wanted to pressure the ball

There is only so many times you let the PG go right down the lane & either let hin score, foul him or weak side help late and get burned on backside

Our bigs will foul out every game if we run into offense like that and do nothing to slow the flow
 
Do you even have any idea why you go to a zone? The play was a ZONE

1) mismatch
2) foul trouble
3) slow the game down change the flow
4) protect your guys in foul trouble. 29 fouls dictated we could not handle them man-man
5) A&M was faster & stronger

The perfect zone would have been a 1-3-1. A&M had nothing on the perimenter. Your back guy would not have had to work hard they sucked. Everything was generated in the paint

A box & 1 if you wanted to pressure the ball

There is only so many times you let the PG go right down the lane & either let hin score, foul him or weak side help late and get burned on backside

Our bigs will foul out every game if we run into offense like that and do nothing to slow the flow

Yes, we are obviously prepared to play every possible zone considering we haven’t even managed the base man to man yet.

You people think it’s a video game and yet have the gall to criticize coaching strategy. Stay in your ****ing lane.
 
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Yes, we are obviously prepared to play every possible zone considering we haven’t even managed the base man to man yet.

You people think it’s a video game and yet have the gall to criticize coaching strategy. Stay in your ****ing lane.
I'm in my lane my man but thanks for the encouragement. Our defense is very undisciplined. We reach in all game instead of beating someone to a spot which could be 6" to 10ft whatever that spot may be.....but instead of moving our feet we choose to reach in which is one of 2 reasons....you are overmatched or lazy
There are NO other reasons

Our defense is undisciplined on trying to block every shot rather than play solid fundamental D and very slow & undisciplined on the backside help

Now with Sommerville & Ogbole you'd expect that basically their frosh year and learning . We fouled them both out because they were abused down low because nobody could contain the guards up top (that falls on the guards)

How do you slow penetration ZONE ZONE ZONE. You take a team that SUCKED on the perimter and make them move it around the arc

Just sayin big guy
 
I'm in my lane my man but thanks for the encouragement. Our defense is very undisciplined. We reach in all game instead of beating someone to a spot which could be 6" to 10ft whatever that spot may be.....but instead of moving our feet we choose to reach in which is one of 2 reasons....you are overmatched or lazy
There are NO other reasons

Our defense is undisciplined on trying to block every shot rather than play solid fundamental D and very slow & undisciplined on the backside help

Now with Sommerville & Ogbole you'd expect that basically their frosh year and learning . We fouled them both out because they were abused down low because nobody could contain the guards up top (that falls on the guards)

How do you slow penetration ZONE ZONE ZONE. You take a team that SUCKED on the perimter and make them move it around the arc

Just sayin big guy
Yes, we are obviously prepared to play every possible zone considering we haven’t even managed the base man to man yet.

You people think it’s a video game and yet have the gall to criticize coaching strategy. Stay in your ****ing lane.
 
A key stat is that 8 Rutgers players scored three or less points.Bench scoring needs major improvement.
 
A key stat is that 8 Rutgers players scored three or less points.Bench scoring needs major improvement.
ChatGPT told me that if we score fewer points than the other team we lose the game. What do you think? Is it true?
 
I'm in my lane my man but thanks for the encouragement. Our defense is very undisciplined. We reach in all game instead of beating someone to a spot which could be 6" to 10ft whatever that spot may be.....but instead of moving our feet we choose to reach in which is one of 2 reasons....you are overmatched or lazy
There are NO other reasons

Our defense is undisciplined on trying to block every shot rather than play solid fundamental D and very slow & undisciplined on the backside help

Now with Sommerville & Ogbole you'd expect that basically their frosh year and learning . We fouled them both out because they were abused down low because nobody could contain the guards up top (that falls on the guards)

How do you slow penetration ZONE ZONE ZONE. You take a team that SUCKED on the perimter and make them move it around the arc

Just sayin big guy
If you are undisciplined or lazy, a zone will also be a disaster, and it was the other night. Zone's, especially slow zones, which ours is, can easily be penetrated.
 
A key stat is that 8 Rutgers players scored three or less points.Bench scoring needs major improvement.

meh...i don't think this is that key tbh

to improve bench scoring you are gonna have to give bench guys more shots. that means less shots for ace and dylan. offense isn't the issue with this team. we are gonna score points. i continue to think the guys that defend and rebound the best will be the ones who see the most minutes with our two superstars.
 
ChatGPT told me that if we score fewer points than the other team we lose the game. What do you think? Is it true?
Lol maybe
If you are undisciplined or lazy, a zone will also be a disaster, and it was the other night. Zone's, especially slow zones, which ours is, can easily be penetrated.
Gotta make an offense work. A&M took away DH drive that he ate AL on and forced some bad shots & bad shot selections which paved way for AB to get more offensive minded

We did absolutely nothing to prevent guards driving the lane. Needed to get them in a perimeter based spread. They had bricklayers shooting 3's. The only reason I can figure we didnt flip to zone is it would have hurt our speed on offensive side.

When 1/2 your team has 2 fouls before 1/2 time you are limited in what you can do and how aggressive you can play D. Had to slow down the pace

2 good learning games to improve things on
 
Lol maybe

Gotta make an offense work. A&M took away DH drive that he ate AL on and forced some bad shots & bad shot selections which paved way for AB to get more offensive minded

We did absolutely nothing to prevent guards driving the lane. Needed to get them in a perimeter based spread. They had bricklayers shooting 3's. The only reason I can figure we didnt flip to zone is it would have hurt our speed on offensive side.

When 1/2 your team has 2 fouls before 1/2 time you are limited in what you can do and how aggressive you can play D. Had to slow down the pace

2 good learning games to improve things on
They forced bad shots because Dylan took them instead of sharing with open teammates.
We DID go to a zone, they crushed it.
 
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