Rutgers Men's Lacrosse Has Second Straight Ranked Road Matchup At Loyola Saturday
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Recruiting. We lost a late flip to Syracuse for a kid that would be starting. The other kid Ott we did get blew his knee out last year. He'd be starting now if not. Faceoff spot is a huge roll of the dice. Outside of a couple of can't miss kids, you don't know. Think of some of the best kids ever. Many weren't highly recruited. It's just a weird, different thing than every other spot. You don't know how these kids are going to pan out.
But we've been especially unlucky. We have a kid coming next year that looks the part. Guess we will see. Wish he was here this year.
It's really disheartening as a fan and as a kid on the team. You have some other pieces. Good pieces. But they are hugely impacted by the inability to get the ball.
2-23. And we lost by 1. We scored 11 goals, 1 less than Uva did whose offense is very very good. If I saw the stats of that game without the score, I'd say it was an Army type score. 20-5 or something.
Unfortunately, we play some very high powered offensive teams still to come with good faceoff. That's a recipe for what we don't want to see.
I fully agree he’s not going anywhere anytime soon . Just don’t tell me the department can’t afford it.
ok so I know that the offensive team has to have the ball in the offensive box before they can call time out, so that may have been the issue and they may have been yelling at there own kids to get the ball in the box. The OC is from Air Force and I have been to several practices and the style of offense is not the problem as he allows a lot of freedom and plays sets not plays which is the opposite of stifling.
The DC is from Towson.
Have to find a way to win more faceoff's at the end of the game
side note congrats @Golfer2019 both son's scoring today nice to see.
Great effort coming off last week’s debacle.
Staff needs to apologize to every kid on the roster. Injuries happen. Unlucky? You make your own luck by bringing in walk ons who might be developed into FOGOs. No different than football always adding long snappers and punters to the roster because, yeah, things happen.
Laughable, and disgraceful, that a head coach in his 9th year doesn’t have a kid on his roster that can do better than 2-23. It’s not like the problems at the X are a surprise. And, no, it’s not Spags’ fault. How do opposing head coaches stop from giggling about what Brecht has done to his program?
Staff needs to apologize to every kid on the roster. Injuries happen. Unlucky? You make your own luck by bringing in walk ons who might be developed into FOGOs. No different than football always adding long snappers and punters to the roster because, yeah, things happen.
Laughable, and disgraceful, that a head coach in his 9th year doesn’t have a kid on his roster that can do better than 2-23. It’s not like the problems at the X are a surprise. And, no, it’s not Spags’ fault. How do opposing head coaches stop from giggling about what Brecht has done to his program?
It’s all about the face off guys. If you give up that many possessions you are going to lose to good teams. You have to be perfect in every other phase and that’s almost impossible.
We lost a road game to number 11 in the country by 1 goal. Going 2-23. Insane stat.
We are where we are. It’s not changing. The juco we brought isnt going to help and Ott is still in street clothes.
The only thing you can do is look for solutions. For teams with guys at the x who aren’t great athletes, I like what we were doing in the 4th q. Move Masessa up to the wing, pole the fogo, shut off everything else. Let him him win it and be forced to make a play after he does.
It’s all on the table at this point.
We lost a road game to number 11 in the country by 1 goal. Going 2-23. Insane stat.
We are where we are. It’s not changing. The juco we brought isnt going to help and Ott is still in street clothes.
The only thing you can do is look for solutions. For teams with guys at the x who aren’t great athletes, I like what we were doing in the 4th q. Move Masessa up to the wing, pole the fogo, shut off everything else. Let him him win it and be forced to make a play after he does.
It’s all on the table at this point.
Your funny. Opposite coaches are impressed with what he has done. You think Loyola escaping with a 1 goal win is laughing?
Clearly not Cali but will say that we have had some bad luck with the FOGO's and we missed on some kids so it does come down to recruiting and making a fogo a priority but we also need to do more to develop our fogo's and develop our wing play. There are ways to make the faceoff more of a battle and we actually have a pole in Masessa that faced off with his pole in HS and he was very good at it so I am not sure why they would not try him.
Brecht has a better record than stags, more winning seasons, and arguably plays a harder schedule. So is it laughable that we got better from the previous coach?
Shill, just stop with your usual crap and criticism. Did you play lacrosse,football orany sport at Rutgers? I'll venture to say no but you post more negative junk everytime. I'll bet you aren't even a donor or alumnus. So as a Rutgers grad, donor and supporter of Rutgers athletics i am comfortable to tell you and some of the same usual unbelievers to give us all a break.
Read thru some coments by lacrosse alumni and digest what they say. Brecht does a very good job. And yes where he is short is not having an exceptional faceoff player.
Read thru some coments by lacrosse alumni and digest what they say. Brecht does a very good job. And yes where he is short is not having an exceptional faceoff player.
They moved him to the wing in the 4th q. He had a huge gb that lead to flag that we scored on. He definitely needs to be more involved.
Not arguably. Coach Hayes always has tough schedules. “Spags” dumbed them down to the point we were losing to St Johns.
We are back to having one of the hardest schedules in the country.
Team finally showed some fight and heart in the second half. The talent is there to build some momentum going into the coming weeks. But they need to show some grit. The team cannot continue to be soft. If they are going to lose every faceoff, they need to be more physical and make the opposing team afraid to scoop up the loose ball. What I have seen this year and most of last year is a team that is afraid of contact.
Info starting to flow in.
Forgetting the obvious situation with faceoffs for a second. The refs made two critical
errors which they have admitted to the staff were mistakes.
Both offsides. One when it was 2-0 and got the ball giving it back to them to make 3-0. The worst one being the last one when we were up 1 with under 3 minutes and the ball giving it back to them where they scored to tie it.
Just brutal calls to miss.
Forgetting the obvious situation with faceoffs for a second. The refs made two critical
errors which they have admitted to the staff were mistakes.
Both offsides. One when it was 2-0 and got the ball giving it back to them to make 3-0. The worst one being the last one when we were up 1 with under 3 minutes and the ball giving it back to them where they scored to tie it.
Just brutal calls to miss.
Gonna give a shoutout to the kids. I said last week was the worst I’ve seen them play. Second half today those kids fought. No one expected to see faceoffs be this challenging. It’s obvious we need to figure out how to win in other ways. We lost which sucks, but the second half is something to build off of. Squad will keep grinding.
In comes Stony Brook who just beat Brown.
In comes Stony Brook who just beat Brown.
Not sure why you’re singling me out. I’d venture to say you didn’t even watch the game. All I did was echo what is obvious - RU is very bad at faceoffs. My criticism was extremely mild compared to others. I am not an alum. I’m a double alum.
By your logic only people who have been the president can critique the president.
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Critique is fine and expected. There are some people who have no idea what they are talking about though. Those people should stop posting. It’s unbecoming.
Faceoffs are a huge issue. We all agree. Next.
Faceoffs are a huge issue. We all agree. Next.
Think RU fans are disappointed? Michigan lost to Merrimack at home.
BTW, the top half of the Ivy League is "en fuego" Besides Yale beating Penn State, Princeton beat UVA in Charlottesville and Penn beat Duke. That's the way to start a season.
I am not a lacrosse fan.
Just want to see RU win.
So I am happy for the women’s team.
But I must say, the rules of lacrosse are really stupid (at least the faceoff rule).
Why is so much weight placed on the ability to win a faceoff?
Doesn’t happen in baseball, football, basketball, soccer.
Only in hockey?
Imagine having a tip-off after every basket scored in basketball?
Or a scrum for possession after every touchdown?
Even soccer let’s the other team get the ball after a goal!
SO STUPID!!!!
(And I would feel the same way if we won 23-2 in faceoffs.)
Just want to see RU win.
So I am happy for the women’s team.
But I must say, the rules of lacrosse are really stupid (at least the faceoff rule).
Why is so much weight placed on the ability to win a faceoff?
Doesn’t happen in baseball, football, basketball, soccer.
Only in hockey?
Imagine having a tip-off after every basket scored in basketball?
Or a scrum for possession after every touchdown?
Even soccer let’s the other team get the ball after a goal!
SO STUPID!!!!
(And I would feel the same way if we won 23-2 in faceoffs.)
I agree. Like most sports, things in lax have gotten so specialized that faceoffs have become a game within the game. The ability to control the x has a disproportionate influence on the outcome of the game. I am in favor of eliminating faceoffs after goals and only have them at the start of each quarter.
It’s a piece of the game that many people are looking at. Its a very specialized position that has such a massive impact on the game. M
Lacrosse is getting very close to being an Olympic sport. What you see in the Olympics is going to be vastly different than what you see in college today.
Faceoffs will be taken out, outside of quarter starts, less players, and a smaller field. It’s going to be very fast and fun to watch with no offsides and with high scoring.
Lacrosse is getting very close to being an Olympic sport. What you see in the Olympics is going to be vastly different than what you see in college today.
Faceoffs will be taken out, outside of quarter starts, less players, and a smaller field. It’s going to be very fast and fun to watch with no offsides and with high scoring.
Giggling because Brecht has built a $1 million offense with a $.10 FOGO. What other coach makes that mistake?
The reference to Stags was only because, quite rightly, that was the excuse during Years 1-5. It’s now Year 9, so now the losses caused by a shocking lack of ability at a key position are explained by one injury and being unlucky. The kids who worked so hard today deserve better.
But I agree that the X has to be eliminated. Where would basketball be if the purists had kept a jump ball after every basket?
Plenty. See Syracuse a few years ago. We’ve had the opposite of this issue in the past. I’d rather have this one.
Excuses during the Stags years? Wtf are you even talkin about at this point. “Spags” sucked it every way.
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You aren’t going to like what you see in the Olympics then. It’s essentially a different game.
I understand the reason for the rule changes for the Olympics and I think they are mostly necessary for that venue. The only changes I would like to see implemented in the college game is the elimination of faceoffs after goals and retaining possession after a shot. I’d also like to see a 2 point line, which I think is coming soon.
Two changes they I think they should make to the Olympic rules is eliminate offside and just play 5v5 — 4v4 seems weird — and they should shrink the size of the field by at least 25%. With fewer players and no long poles it will be way too lopsided towards offense. I’m all for uptempo and high scoring but it will be so difficult to defend that teams won’t even bother they will just be waiting for the break the other way and will will be just a track meet.
Two changes they I think they should make to the Olympic rules is eliminate offside and just play 5v5 — 4v4 seems weird — and they should shrink the size of the field by at least 25%. With fewer players and no long poles it will be way too lopsided towards offense. I’m all for uptempo and high scoring but it will be so difficult to defend that teams won’t even bother they will just be waiting for the break the other way and will will be just a track meet.
The entire lacrosse world knew we had to address faceoffs and the coach forgot to address it...joke
He may not have solved it but he did bring in a JC FOGO and I believe a transfer. That's not ignoring it.
That’s like having the worst field goal kicker in the country and addressing it by bringing in two guys just as bad
Cali
if the buyout was not an issue, would you keep Brecht? If no buyout, what would have to happen to replace the coach?
I realize you know your stuff. You are also a homer like WNG on the wrestling board. Removing being a homer, wants your solution? If it is recruiting, are staff changes needed?
if the buyout was not an issue, would you keep Brecht? If no buyout, what would have to happen to replace the coach?
I realize you know your stuff. You are also a homer like WNG on the wrestling board. Removing being a homer, wants your solution? If it is recruiting, are staff changes needed?
Feel bad for the seniors and upperclassmen who have given their all and will never see the NCAAs. Coach let them down for sure
Unfortunately recruiting is part of the coaches responsibilities and they need to take heat if they can't recruit ALL of the pieces to be successful.
The lack of a quality faceoff guy around here is nothing new. It's been at least 3 years since we've been respectable and it's probably the #1 thing holding back this program. It's like a broken record around here after every loss. This cant continue to happen.
With that being said, it seems like this year is no different and it will be another unsuccessful season where we don't make the B1Gs, NCAA tournament, or even end up ranked...it's such a shame.
Coaches only get so long to prove they can be successful in the B1G and unfortunately after this season (if it plays like we all expect it to) Brechts seat will start to warm up regardless of what anyone close to the program says. He won't get fired but people will talking about his job more and more which isn't a good thing for a coach.
The lack of a quality faceoff guy around here is nothing new. It's been at least 3 years since we've been respectable and it's probably the #1 thing holding back this program. It's like a broken record around here after every loss. This cant continue to happen.
With that being said, it seems like this year is no different and it will be another unsuccessful season where we don't make the B1Gs, NCAA tournament, or even end up ranked...it's such a shame.
Coaches only get so long to prove they can be successful in the B1G and unfortunately after this season (if it plays like we all expect it to) Brechts seat will start to warm up regardless of what anyone close to the program says. He won't get fired but people will talking about his job more and more which isn't a good thing for a coach.
