For FXCKS SAKE could we not turn this into another idiotic uniform thread please?
Special BOG meeting called for Friday
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Havent been able to spot numbers since the old uni's.....
Before and after pix for use as evidence:
Wow those old unis look horrible. I'll take the numbers being difficult to read
They're just saying there should be a separation, not resolving anything about Flood.
It's nothing more than any union would do. As a matter of fact, compared to what I would expect it's pretty tame.
That statement sounds to me like the investigation has not turned up anything of significance and the union is having a hissy fit. It's basically asking Rutgers to expand the investigation, as if they aren't happy they haven't found a smoking gun.
Thanks for the clarification. When I download .pdf file for Friday's meeting it include (Special) in the file name.
I would like to sue someone for the $20 bucks I spent on the 2015 Media Guide.
Holy cr#p, if you thought the Uniform numbers are hard to read try reading this Guide.
The font is the smallest I ever seen. Going to get a magnifying glass tomorrow .
Never again.
Not the case. A compliance investigation is always comprehensive. They are looking for patterns of behavior and systemic issues. It takes time to complete as hard drives are imaged and many individuals are interviewed. That single email will trigger a review of all methods and means of communications between instructors and coaches.
Here's the thing that has not been talked about here. Like most students who are at risk of academic ineligibility, Barnwell probably needed a very high grade in the summer session to maintain his eligibility. When final grades were turned in, Barnwell had failed the course. It would be a stretch for any instructor who has turned in a final grade, to change it from an F to an A or B. I can't imagine what Flood was thinking. Extra credit is not usually intended to change a grade after the final grade is entered in the academic system. I don't think this bodes well for Flood, especially now that the faculty have taken a hard line.
The first line of the faculty resolution
Whereas recent allegations that Head Football Coach Kyle Flood initiated communication with a part-time lecturer about an F grade she or he assigned to a football player have caused concern within....
So basically the faculty union committed a FERPA violation? Nicely done.
And they're faculty.
I'm seriously starting to question this school. First we find "student athletes" who are dumb enough to rob the only drug dealers in the world who actually call the cops, then the people teaching them ironically commit a FERPA violation while complaining about a coach breaking an academic compliance rule.
I think it might be time to just shut the whole f*ckin' thing down and start cutting property tax rebate checks.
We don't know the actual grade that was issued - or was about to be issued - and don't know if Flood even knew the absolute truth - don't know if academic support has direct access to the truth - and it may be that Flood only had what Barnwell told him to go on.... and I'm not so sure what Barnwell might say.
The resolution written by the union says the grade was an F. It was posted earlier in this thread.
call the cops & only keep 3 ounces of inventory. They must be Just in time supply chain drug dealers
Well, ya know, RU does have a really good Supply Chain program.
FERPA violations are a very big deal. I don't understand how this union decided to go out with this. They may or should be in big trouble. Hopefully they weren't advised by the leaders of the union who probably have no idea of the restrictions.
The dates and facts around what happened when are pretty critical here...
For example, is there any connection at all between the fight and the drug invasions? Or was the only connection that Teejay Johnson was involved in both?
(It's pretty sensational journalism if these are unconnected except Johnson's presence)
What about when an initial police report was filed in the drug invasions? Was there ever one filed or were these incidents thrown into the game after the individuals who were invaded were later busted themselves for drugs and weapons? Or was an initial report filed and then got active after the drug chain was arrested later?
For example, is there any connection at all between the fight and the drug invasions? Or was the only connection that Teejay Johnson was involved in both?
(It's pretty sensational journalism if these are unconnected except Johnson's presence)
What about when an initial police report was filed in the drug invasions? Was there ever one filed or were these incidents thrown into the game after the individuals who were invaded were later busted themselves for drugs and weapons? Or was an initial report filed and then got active after the drug chain was arrested later?
Under the Federal Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA), personally identifiable information may not be released from a student’s education records without the student’s prior written consent.
That said, there are exceptions, among them when criminal activity is involved and in other instances where students well being/safety were in jeopardy.
I'm no expert in this area. But this communication released by a group of faculty may not constitute a FERPA violation.
That said, there are exceptions, among them when criminal activity is involved and in other instances where students well being/safety were in jeopardy.
I'm no expert in this area. But this communication released by a group of faculty may not constitute a FERPA violation.
I'm pretty sure that specific to the union's interests, there was no criminal activity or risk to student well-being.
yeah ... that was kind of the point that I was headed toward
... but I got distracted by the Mets working their magic!
... nothing was stated as "official" .... until now (if this is in fact a piece of truth - or just more hearsay being represented as truth)
So it does now look like the faculty union has disclosed to the world the actual grade that Nadir Barnwell received - (follow-up question - precisely how did they obtain this information? let's have the name of the individual who disclosed this.)
Appears that the faculty union in their haste to make a splash - was careless & trampled on the rights to confidentiality of a student
FERPA is complicated stuff. There are other exceptions whereby student info can be released to faculty/staff if they are deemed to have a legitimate educational interest in the info, and/or if it is necessary for them to obtain info in order to carry out certain official duties or meet contractual obligations. So the union angle may be the exception here, although the info was clearly leaked publicly in this case, rather than kept within the faculty community.
Again, I'm no FERPA expert. But I do know there's lots of gray area.
Again, I'm no FERPA expert. But I do know there's lots of gray area.
I actually thought the faculty resolution was fairly innocuous. The things they called for are most assuredly already being done. The timing - well after the initial allegations, and at a time when the investigation into Floods emails must be well underway - seemed to indicate to me that they are playing fair.
Of course they don't want to stay silent, but this doesn't seem to indicate they are out for any kind of retribution.
Of course they don't want to stay silent, but this doesn't seem to indicate they are out for any kind of retribution.
Could be that this faculty resolution was meant as an internal document and was not a FERPA violation in that original release. How the Targum obtained that internal resolution and then that it chose to publish it may be the problem here for the university.
Drama. Always drama on the Banks.
Drama. Always drama on the Banks.
Pretty confident it wasn't meant to be internal...its posted on the public Rutgers AAUP website.
Kind of doubt that the 'internal' idea would help the faculty union in this case - - there is no real justification for broadcasting Barnwell's grade to the entire faculty - (Rutgers AAUP-AFT represents more than 6,600 faculty,)-
if you look at it on a 'need to know' basis - there is no 'need' for physics professors and engineering professors and German professors who don't even know the kid to be presented with the knowledge of exactly what he obtained in his summer course.
Indeed, changing grades after a final grade is entered is reserved for instructor error or cases where an incomplete grade had been assigned. For obvious reasons no school allows extra credit after a grade had been assigned.
So the teachers union violated the rights of the student to protect their own interests. Ignoring that the student was probably a lost cause, at what point does anyone actually care about the young men and women in their hands. Is the union writing off all coaches as not an acceptable form of teacher? Should schools stop teaching sports? What's next, the arts? drama? music?
Does the resolution say Nadir Barnwell in it? If not, no violation. Just because we all know who the dip shit in question is, the law doesn't deal in inference.
Let's not pretend this is an out of the ordinary event at Rutgers or any other university.
A kid failing a class and the request/proposal being that the kid take an incomplete and do some extra work to bring up the grade.
It's within a faculty member's powers to do that when they feel it is appropriate or they just plain feel like it.
It happens for athletes, non athletes, those with personal problems, those with inventive excuses, etc.
Some faculty are purists and never do it. Some faculty are easy and do it more frequently. I'd venture a guess that super majority do it on a case by case basis and let the legitimacy of the effort and circumstances dictate.
Whether barnwell made enough effort or was even mature enough to have his head in the game to ask for this and the circumstances around it are what we don't know.
Entirely possible that the faculty member is a purist and that barnwell wasn't smart or engaged enough to handle this well and the academic advisors had no luck getting an answer so flood reached out to try to clarify.
If that is the case, that breaks a school regulation and he should get a reprimand.
No need for grandstanding. Barchi just needs to put this to bed. Either there's a heavy pattern of it that resembles abuse or not.
