The last 3 games....
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Pikiell and his staff have done a good job, but there are some number of good coaches in the B1G in addition to Izzo and Beilein. Matt Painter, for one, and several others on his level. Pikiell has done it at a low D1 school, and has led Rutgers to a bunch of wins over questionable opposition. This is a process. Be happy if we end up at .500 overall--when you see the players on other B1G teams, it has to be a bit daunting. Effort and coaching can only do so much, and those teams play with effort and coaching as well--plus they have better players. 4-12 in the B1G would be major.
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Corey is a pure point guard in my book....especially this year.
Freeman and Gettys being offensive weapons doesn't happen by itself (except for OREBs).
Freeman and Gettys being offensive weapons doesn't happen by itself (except for OREBs).
I know I'd get beat up by opposing fans as we have been terrible and these schools have been good.
3 coaches in B1G that don't impress (from X and O and getting tem ready to play)...
1. Tom Crean
2. Fran McCaffery
3. Little Richard
3 coaches in B1G that don't impress (from X and O and getting tem ready to play)...
1. Tom Crean
2. Fran McCaffery
3. Little Richard
I think Sanders is a terrific kid, but he is still not playing in control and pace of the game.
To me, that is one of the biggest definitions of a true point guard. They control the pace of the game.
I am not saying Johnson is a pg, or a pure pg, but he controls well. His takes the middle, and he does not push it if he doesn't numbers. That is one thing Sanders must learn quickly, and it is not a tall task. On transition-look for numbers. If you have them, push, if not, pull back.
Not rocket science. Simplify the game to simple mathematics.
To me, that is one of the biggest definitions of a true point guard. They control the pace of the game.
I am not saying Johnson is a pg, or a pure pg, but he controls well. His takes the middle, and he does not push it if he doesn't numbers. That is one thing Sanders must learn quickly, and it is not a tall task. On transition-look for numbers. If you have them, push, if not, pull back.
Not rocket science. Simplify the game to simple mathematics.
agree with the first based on his talent although didnt they do well last year in league and the tourney
I do not think Fran gets the best talent in the league or even top 5 so I think he has done well there
Little Ricky teams were quite competitive last year, lost alot of close games before that implosion with the sex tape, they are off to a good start this year so I would hold of judgment
I think the PSU coach isnt good, they keep him around because hoops isnt a priority and for some reason he does just enough to get another season. His freshmen from Philly arent quite working out yet and I cant see how they dont finish in the basement this year.
Turgeron, Matta and Painter are very solid, not in the class of Izzo and Beilein though and Izzo is a few rungs above Beilein. I do not even know the new Wisky guys name yet but Ryan was one of the best in league. I think Collins is a very very good coach at Northwestern...unfortunately if he has success there he maybe poached away by a name brand this year...too bad for the Cats.
Nothing special about Gross or the guy at Nebby.
GreenFig and Higgins ...
My 2 cents:
1) Johnson is a better on-ball defender than Sanders, at this time. Sanders has quicker hands, and is a better help defender than is Johnson, hence the greater number of steals. But Johnson is the better overall defender. In my opinion.
2) Johnson, factually, has a much better assist to turnover ratio. That is simple stats.
3) Item #2 aside, Sanders REALLY is the better passer. I cannot prove this statistically, but I see it on the court. Johnson is a good passer, and certainly does get the ball to his teammates, often in the right spots for his teammates - kudos to him! But Sanders is spectacular with his passing, and sees the court fantastically. You can see it when you watch games. No offense to Johnson, but Sanders has the potential to be an exceptional PG, while Johnson does not.
4) There is no contest at all regarding each player's ability to break down their defender one on one off the dribble: Sanders can beat pretty much anyone off the dribble, using a variety of ways to do so, while Johnson cannot. Johnson does have a very good move to the basket, in a straight line, usually from the wing - and is very quick, and as good or better a jumper than Sanders. But Sanders really has many more dribble penetration moves, and skills.
5) Sanders is also a much better scorer off dribble penetration than is Johnson: He has many different moves that get him shots off the dribble, including floaters, finger rolls, banks shots, and various dispsy-do shots. That said, Johnson has a much better pull-up jump shot off his dribble.
6) Sanders DOES sometimes drive out of control, getting trapped in no-man's land, and turns the ball over as a result. He relies too much, still, on his athletic ability to bail him out of those no-man land situations. But he has been better this year. On the other hand, Johnson too often takes really stupidly timed 3-pointers (like early in the shot clock, from 2-3 steps beyond the arc), when he is merely an okay 3-point shooter, generally - and below average so far this year.
7) Sanders has very little "catch and shoot" game. Johnson DOES have a "catch and shoot" game. By that reasoning alone, unless special circumstances dictate, when Johnson and Sanders are both in the game, Sanders should be the trigger man, with Johnson being the 2G.
8) The Fordham game was a LITTLE bit of an anomaly for Sanders regarding turnovers. He may have been affected by his illness (did he have to miss practice time?). He also DID have trouble adjusting to the unusual and odd location of the Fordham traps (I talked about the Fordham's defensive oddities in another post) - and in response, Sanders was pulled a couple of times, and in the end, Johnson did trigger the offense rather than Sanders. But that was a 1-game thing.
My conclusion: Sanders is the materially better PG than Johnson both due to skill set and mind set. Johnson is a capable back-up PG, when Sanders is out, but is a better scoring guard than PG.
My 2 cents:
1) Johnson is a better on-ball defender than Sanders, at this time. Sanders has quicker hands, and is a better help defender than is Johnson, hence the greater number of steals. But Johnson is the better overall defender. In my opinion.
2) Johnson, factually, has a much better assist to turnover ratio. That is simple stats.
3) Item #2 aside, Sanders REALLY is the better passer. I cannot prove this statistically, but I see it on the court. Johnson is a good passer, and certainly does get the ball to his teammates, often in the right spots for his teammates - kudos to him! But Sanders is spectacular with his passing, and sees the court fantastically. You can see it when you watch games. No offense to Johnson, but Sanders has the potential to be an exceptional PG, while Johnson does not.
4) There is no contest at all regarding each player's ability to break down their defender one on one off the dribble: Sanders can beat pretty much anyone off the dribble, using a variety of ways to do so, while Johnson cannot. Johnson does have a very good move to the basket, in a straight line, usually from the wing - and is very quick, and as good or better a jumper than Sanders. But Sanders really has many more dribble penetration moves, and skills.
5) Sanders is also a much better scorer off dribble penetration than is Johnson: He has many different moves that get him shots off the dribble, including floaters, finger rolls, banks shots, and various dispsy-do shots. That said, Johnson has a much better pull-up jump shot off his dribble.
6) Sanders DOES sometimes drive out of control, getting trapped in no-man's land, and turns the ball over as a result. He relies too much, still, on his athletic ability to bail him out of those no-man land situations. But he has been better this year. On the other hand, Johnson too often takes really stupidly timed 3-pointers (like early in the shot clock, from 2-3 steps beyond the arc), when he is merely an okay 3-point shooter, generally - and below average so far this year.
7) Sanders has very little "catch and shoot" game. Johnson DOES have a "catch and shoot" game. By that reasoning alone, unless special circumstances dictate, when Johnson and Sanders are both in the game, Sanders should be the trigger man, with Johnson being the 2G.
8) The Fordham game was a LITTLE bit of an anomaly for Sanders regarding turnovers. He may have been affected by his illness (did he have to miss practice time?). He also DID have trouble adjusting to the unusual and odd location of the Fordham traps (I talked about the Fordham's defensive oddities in another post) - and in response, Sanders was pulled a couple of times, and in the end, Johnson did trigger the offense rather than Sanders. But that was a 1-game thing.
My conclusion: Sanders is the materially better PG than Johnson both due to skill set and mind set. Johnson is a capable back-up PG, when Sanders is out, but is a better scoring guard than PG.
I appreciate your insight, and analysis. I certainly like Johnsons control of the game more. Corey could learn from him there. Sanders has developed into a PG this year, but not where the team needs him to be.Pikeill knows whats best.
I still see a lot of drives from Sanders where he is relying way too much on his athletic talent. I do agree it will be a work in progress for him.
Get used to it....as the competition gets better the ball will be in his hands more....and quite frankly I'd rather have him rely on his athletic talent than his non athletic talent. (shooting perimeter shots)
Doesn't the penn State coach at least get another year with his current freshman. Quite frankly they shouldn't be good this year.
I don't want to see a gary Waters thing and get rid of him with FIG as freshmen.
Actually it is Penn State, so i don't really care.
I don't want to see a gary Waters thing and get rid of him with FIG as freshmen.
Actually it is Penn State, so i don't really care.
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