To the middle aged RU fans behind the Minny Bench

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

An opponent saying something - sure. A large crowd chanting in unison - sure. One idiot in the stands on his own - no. You might annoy a player but you’re not going to affect his play.

I mean, I simply disagree. A lot of times when you get under their skin they try to do too much so they can stare you down after they make a play. It happens all the time. Does it have a HUGE impact? no. But to say it has no impact is silly

 

[ruhoops21]

As a 20+ year sect 112 season ticket holder. I am loud and give the refs a hard time. But I do not go after the kids. The coaches. Yes! I also don’t go after opposing fans...however he big 10 fans are awful a disrespectful. Our section was relentless on the refs and on little Ricky...eventually 1 of the minny fans stood up and yelled at us. F-you mother Fer....that was classless! Section 112 is loud and proud!!!!!

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

As a 20+ year sect 112 season ticket holder. I am loud and give the refs a hard time. But I do not go after the kids. The coaches. Yes! I also don’t go after opposing fans...however he big 10 fans are awful a disrespectful. Our section was relentless on the refs and on little Ricky...eventually 1 of the minny fans stood up and yelled at us. F-you mother Fer....that was classless! Section 112 is loud and proud!!!!!

section 113 I believe it is has some TREMENDOUS fans. Those guys really work the refs, the opposing coaches and occasionally a friendly jab at opposing players waiting to check in.

I only really got after 2 players last night and some here are acting like i'm criminal with my acts. I told Coffey he's gotta stop skipping leg day and told washington that jellyfam was cute but it's dead now. Washington took great offense to that and was gesturing towards me to the point little ricky yanked him and didn't play him a single minute after that

 

[Upstream]

Call me a loser but...

I give you credit for at least recognizing that you might be a loser

 

[zebnatto]

section 113 I believe it is has some TREMENDOUS fans. Those guys really work the refs, the opposing coaches and occasionally a friendly jab at opposing players waiting to check in.

I only really got after 2 players last night and some here are acting like i'm criminal with my acts. I told Coffey he's gotta stop skipping leg day and told washington that jellyfam was cute but it's dead now. Washington took great offense to that and was gesturing towards me to the point little ricky yanked him and didn't play him a single minute after that

Look at what you said in your “Call me a loser post” and now it’s “I only.” You are a loser, a bully, an asshole, and a creep.

 

[RUAEPI]

Heckling is a part of sports. There has always been a fine line between acceptable and non-acceptable behavior however. This line continues to move as our definition of socially acceptable behavior continues to adjust. We need to remember that these are kids out there.

I'm personally a "root for your team hard and just be loud" guy!

 

[zebnatto]

Heckling is a part of sports. There has always been a fine line between acceptable and non-acceptable behavior however. This line continues to move as our definition of socially acceptable behavior continues to adjust. We need to remember that these are kids out there.

I'm personally a "root for your team hard and just be loud" guy!

“Researching” a kid and calling him out if he’s lonely or having trouble with a girl? No fekking way.

 

[Upstream]

Washington took great offense to that and was gesturing towards me to the point little ricky yanked him and didn't play him a single minute after that

I'm not sure that your comments impacted Washington's playing time. He hasn't played more than 3 minutes in a game for at least 2 weeks.

 

[RUskoolie]

We need more kyks in the lower levels and less people sitting on their hands. I would do the same thing if I was close enough. You can effect the game without being an a-hole. Young people today have such a fragile mind as it is, I feel like it's easier than ever.

 

[RUskoolie]

Do you guys not remember the old Rutgers student section chanting the names of players mothers before warm ups of football games? I want more of that, that's what makes college games fun.

 

[Upstream]

We need more kyks in the lower levels and less people sitting on their hands. I would do the same thing if I was close enough. You can effect the game without being an a-hole. Young people today have such a fragile mind as it is, I feel like it's easier than ever.

There is a whole lot of room between "affecting the game without being an a-hole" and stalking a college kid's twitter account.

 

[S_Janowski]

The issue I have is with the 40-50 year olds flipping the bird to a college student.

Anyone who is part of the “Jelly Fam” and puts up Instagram videos of prior games against us deserves some ribbing. If they can’t handle that they shouldn’t be all over social media promoting their “Jelly Fam” to their 500K followers like a Washington does.

 

[RUskoolie]

There is a whole lot of room between "affecting the game without being an a-hole" and stalking a college kid's twitter account.

I disagree. You don't want someone knowing about something, don't put it out there for the entire world to read.

 

[Scangg]

Stop calling them "kids" as if they are 6th graders. That would be creepy. These are all adult men out there. If you don't want to be heckled don't play big-time D1 sports. Heckling and trash talk has alwayssss been part of bball. Having fans try to get under players skin is part of the home court advantage. We are from Jersey where trash talk is even more a part of the culture. It would be sad if no fans got after players. Another fail from the holier than thou crew

 

[Scangg]

Also I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding of what Twitter is by what I'm assuming are the older crowd here...

Twitter isn't like Facebook where you need a friend request and actually know the people you link to on it. Anything you post on Twitter is for the entire world to see not just friends. It's information they are willingly posting to the general public. The entire point of Twitter is posting something the world can see. It's not some weird invasion of privacy to check someone's Twitter

 

[Upstream]

Stop calling them "kids" as if they are 6th graders. That would be creepy. These are all adult men out there. If you don't want to be heckled don't play big-time D1 sports. Heckling and trash talk has alwayssss been part of bball. Having fans try to get under players skin is part of the home court advantage. We are from Jersey where trash talk is even more a part of the culture. It would be sad if no fans got after players. Another fail from the holier than thou crew

They're not little kids, but they're not fully mature adults either. College is a transition period between being a kid and being an adult.

I don't have a problem heckling the players. But there is a line. Flipping the bird is crossing the line. Researching a player's social media to see if he is having problems with his girlfriend is probably crossing the line. Heckling Washington about Jelly Fam is certainly fair play.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

We need more kyks in the lower levels and less people sitting on their hands. I would do the same thing if I was close enough. You can effect the game without being an a-hole. Young people today have such a fragile mind as it is, I feel like it's easier than ever.

I looked for lower level singles yesterday but out of my price range

I am loud and would help get the crowd going

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

I couldn’t care less about the kid or who “started it”.

Two 40 year olds flipping the bird to a college kid from the stands is a pathetic look and will embrarass this university nationally if they’re caught.

You do know that we are the fan base that yells FVCK PSU during games against them?

 

[Upstream]

You do know that we are the fan base that yells FVCK PSU during games against them?

Actually, we're the fan base that yells FVCK PSU during games against Nebraska

 

[Fat-Tony]

You do know that we are the fan base that yells FVCK PSU during games against them?

To be fair, the students yell it even when we aren't playing them.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

To be fair, the students yell it even when we aren't playing them.

I never knew that... that's funny.

 

[S_Janowski]

You do know that we are the fan base that yells FVCK PSU during games against them?

Yes well aware. I hate PSU as much as anyone but think that’s a real dumb chant especially since they own us on the football field.

At least those are immature college students doing that. Not a middle aged couple who you would expect better from.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Do you guys not remember the old Rutgers student section chanting the names of players mothers before warm ups of football games? I want more of that, that's what makes college games fun.

yeah this is how I feel. I like hostile environments. And to your point, with how fragile kids are mentally these days, it's sincerely easier than ever to get in their heads. They post their entire lives on social media and you can learn EVERYTHING they have going on in their lives within legitimately a media timeout.

 

[Fat-Tony]

So if we moved the students to section 112 and they gave an opposing player the middle finger would it be o.k. becuase they are immature college students?

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Do you guys not remember the old Rutgers student section chanting the names of players mothers before warm ups of football games? I want more of that, that's what makes college games fun.

Nothing racial, nothing family related, etc......BUT, getting on opposing players should be so intense that they want to leave the bench and come after the fans during the game....then you know you are inside their heads.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Also if anyyyyy of you think me doing some friendly chirps at opposing players is bad youd ****ING FAINT if you heard the shit Kiss, Caleb and Harper talk. Some might be shocked to hear this but Kiss is the biggest shit talker on our team. Caleb is up there too, hes extremely entertaining and basically will say anything that comes to mind. Montez is very subtle with how he agitates guys. He got in coffeys head bad in the 2nd half. Go back to the game and watch one of the foul shots. Montez puts his arm around coffey and whispers something in his ear and coffey gave him some crazy look and moved away after haha

 

[S_Janowski]

So if we moved the students to section 112 and they gave an opposing player the middle finger would it be o.k. becuase they are immature college students?

I’m starting to think you were the guy giving the finger....

 

[Fat-Tony]

I’m starting to think you were the guy giving the finger....

You'd be wrong. I saw it all. I did taunt him about his playing time and his Sideshow Bob haircut. I am just tired of readhing the constant complaints about people in our section.

 

[S_Janowski]

You'd be wrong. I saw it all. I did taunt him about his playing time and his Sideshow Bob haircut. I am just tired of readhing the constant complaints about people in our section.

So you think it’s okay and mature for a middle aged couple to give the finger to a college athlete?

Because that’s why this thread was started. And both your responses make it sound like you think that’s acceptable behavior.

 

[Fat-Tony]

I don't think that it is as eggregious as you make it out to be. Woudl I rather it didn't happen - sure. I didn't lose sleep last night over it. Omersa was complicit in the exchange. He is a college student. As we have established, they do curse (which we apparently condone if it is against PSU). I heard and seen far worse in my years as a season ticket holder; so it didn't upset me. In the end, you be you, I'll be me. We're both RU fans and apparently passionate about it. I'm sure we can find common ground there.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Creative heckling is great..

We use to call a St Bonnie PG “elf” for 3 years. Plenty of white lids “dork” and chanted “SAT” to plenty of Prop 48’s. Do that TODAY and:

1) the kid will need a “safe space”
2) you’ll likely get tossed for being “insensitive”

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Thinking this thread has run its course

 

[superfan01]

When I was a student i used to get to games very early. I would go after the opposing team players when it was dead quiet in RAC abd they could hear everything.
Back then UCONN had great teams but we always played them tight.

I went toe to toe one pregame with Charlie Villaneuava. Really got into his head. He came over to the student section to yell back. Ben Gordon then got involved until his teammates pulled him back.
Charlie had a terrible game. The knights only lost by 1 pt to number 1 UCONN. Charlie then commented how tough it was in the RAC.

Keep up the yelling.

 

[hoquat63]

Back in the day sitting behind Syracuse bench, bunch of fans were getting on Dale Shackleford calling him Shacklesh!t. When he fouled out he did a little dance and wave to the crowd

 

[ancienthooper]

I’m beyond middle-aged and would never want my kids to see me behave in that manner. I would also be disappointed to see them do the same. All kinds of ways to generate noise and enthusiasm without acting like a tool.

 

[RUChoppin]

Ribbing players is part of the game - but the "creepy" factor, I think, is on a sliding scale with age.

- If a student was digging into players' histories to find buttons to push, I say fair game.
- If a young alum (which I'd still consider kyk at 27) is doing it, also fairly inbounds within reason (and nothing he said seems to be out of bounds to me - it's all twitter/HS background stuff)
- If a middle aged person (35-50) is doing it, that verges on creepy.
- If an older head (50+) is doing this, it's definitely creepy.

I do feel that some things are definitely "out of bounds", though, for three reasons, imo:
1. Going after family tragedy of any kind. Sister has cancer, mom recently died, etc.... that's not cool, and goes to the "bigger than the game" concept in my mind. Maybe it's just me.
2. Racist jeers/chants
3. Stuff that would make the school look bad. All the one-on-one jawing is invisible to the viewership at home - have at it as long as you don't get caught on tape. Older fans flipping the bird to players is too risky, to me - too easy to get caught on camera, and it become a negative anti-RU story. Chanting "F Penn State" is borderline - but it's rivalry hatred, and that gets some special dispensation. Chanting "F U Navy" crosses this line. Anything that a starved-for-controversy reporter could grab and turn into a story, really.

 

[ColonelRutgers]

Also if anyyyyy of you think me doing some friendly chirps at opposing players is bad youd ****ING FAINT if you heard the shit Kiss, Caleb and Harper talk. Some might be shocked to hear this but Kiss is the biggest shit talker on our team. Caleb is up there too, hes extremely entertaining and basically will say anything that comes to mind. Montez is very subtle with how he agitates guys. He got in coffeys head bad in the 2nd half. Go back to the game and watch one of the foul shots. Montez puts his arm around coffey and whispers something in his ear and coffey gave him some crazy look and moved away after haha

And those guys are actually playing in the game not just some dude sitting in the stands with an outsized sense of his own importance.

 

[RUChoppin]

This thread reminded me of this:

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaa...tfishing-prank--10-years-later-161516824.html

 

[RUin2WIN]

I never knew that... that's funny.

Yup every game, no matter who the team is playing.

 

[zebnatto]

This didn’t start out about “friendly chirping.”