On second thought, I think we should stay closer to home, let’s bring back Jamming James Bailey!!
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It’s about degree. I was concerned both with the losing streak and recruiting. Still am regarding recruiting. I wasn’t calling for Pike’s head.
I love people who sit on their fat asses while posting on a message board criticizing the "effort" of college athletes who likely are in classes, weight rooms, film room almost every waking hour of every day.
So when RU was losing earlier in the season your sane minded conclusion was to fire Pike? Because thats what you're agreeing t o in this thread topic.
Ps...tell us, which recruits you think suck because you're obviously very comfortable at denigrating RU college athletes.
Shiit, I hope so. That would mean Boyton would be available when kike storms Holloway’s office and gets Pike fired. 😂
PS - Kike I usually roll my eyes before reading your needy and simplistic look at me posts, but lately I’ve been wondering about your family tree… did you have an ancestor insisting D-Day in Normandy was just a diversion? How about a relative that believed the Japanese attacking Pearl Harbor would turn out well? Or someone in the recording business that turned down the Beatles?
Could you be more wrong? Everything you predict comes up completely wrong. Maybe you need to stfu and let people who know about sports take over. Is Oregon offense going to be run through Young in NIT?
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This post didn't age well at all....just about a complete opposite happened. Pretty remarkable what Pike has accomplished; yes, he will have a challenge in the portal next season, but let's enjoy this now, and maybe we make a little run. Go RU!!
This guy is spot on again!
I can see now where the self proclaimed 85% hit rate comes from!!
I can see now where the self proclaimed 85% hit rate comes from!!
‘The reality is’…..he got a 30M extension in March 2022. 😊
I do not know why you are so hard on him. At least he got right the part that Pikes a nice guy. Lmao
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Rutgers success under pike the last three years will start to pay dividends in the future. NY & NJ are hot markets for BBALL recruits. Pike has only started to tap into getting higher level recruits like Mulcahy and Cliff. Now that pike got an extension recruits know he is going to stay awhile. Also, it is well known that pike is one of the best coaches for developing players. Recruiting should get better and better.
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You dont understand the recruiting landscape locally here. The aau circuit locally doesnt view pike in high regards. You might not like it, agree with it, but dont shoot the messenger here.
you know 1 or 2 guys (if that), and now you're speaking for the entire local AAU circuit?
GTFOH
I know a couple of AAU guys and they love him.
In Edit: and I can say that AND acknowledge that recruiting needs to improve
Big picture, do you wish we didn't make it? I have not seen any posts from you about the tournament since the bracket was announced. The search function says you posted about the Army cadets and that we missed JY this year (and he missed us), and that's it since the selection show.
He and Mike Boynton are together crying in their beers
It's not about Pikiell it's about Rutgers. And to be honest Seton Hall has this problem too. At least for now, RU and SHU are not sexy places for those with the power to steer kids toward. Every so often you break through with a Cliff or a Whitehead but that's what we're dealing with.
This is again where credibility gets questioned and is very vague and a rumor mill that no one can validate. Anyone can find more than a few AAU coaches who ALL think they're better coaches than college assistant coaches. The AAU circuit is a hard working group and they do a lot to get kids scholarship opportunities.
At the same time, it costs money to get AAU coaches on your side and this is how ill advised kyk1827 is about college hoops recruiting.
The AAU coaches are also ego-driven and it's as political as anything else. If any college program shows anything close to an allegiance or favoritism for one vs the other dozen or so programs, you wind up losing anyway. That's why this notion that you need to "pay" or cozy up to any one AAU affiliate, is dumb.
You can work and recruit with the circuits that support your brand or work with the relationships earned over time with your assistant coaches. If there is a Nike run AAU affiliate, it is very difficult to land kids when you're not a Nike school or vice versa.....and AAU affiliate as a reliable way of recruiting is BAD in terms of building a program. If that program has a questionable player or bad fit, the AAU program is going to expect you to take that player anyway.
RU is building a program, not an AAU reliant coaching staff. You build a program based on investment in each recruit, one player or person at a time. That's the stable and reliable way, and how RU has gotten here today.
Curious. What’s the strategy with the Hall in terms of recruiting and AAU? More often than not, they seem to field quality teams.
I’m glad this board is filled with Nostradamus’ that knew we were an NCAA tournament team after we played Lafayette, UMass, and DePaul.
You guys are THE BEST Rutgers fans on this board, so much better than everyone else. Honestly, it’s remarkable @kyk1827 and every poster that questioned the team even doubted them when they were playing like they’ve never played organized basketball before.
You guys are THE BEST Rutgers fans on this board, so much better than everyone else. Honestly, it’s remarkable @kyk1827 and every poster that questioned the team even doubted them when they were playing like they’ve never played organized basketball before.
Do you guys realize that you need to be good before you can actually start landing multiple big time recruits? Or you need to cheat. That is not pikiell though. Why would an AAU coach send their kids to Rutgers when they could easily send them to another school that consistently gets to the ncaa tournament? AAU coaches wont even take your call for certain kids if they know your program is trash. i.e. Rutgers 6 years ago.
Pikiell is doing exactly what he needs to do to win. That is to look for under valued kids who can play at our level. Quite honestly that is exactly what iowa does and purdue. we need to be like them. That is who we are right now.
for example, Keegan Murray's only major conference offer was iowa because his dad played there. He was a mid major recruit. 3 star
Pikiell is doing exactly what he needs to do to win. That is to look for under valued kids who can play at our level. Quite honestly that is exactly what iowa does and purdue. we need to be like them. That is who we are right now.
for example, Keegan Murray's only major conference offer was iowa because his dad played there. He was a mid major recruit. 3 star
Questioning the team =/= “Pike should be fired after this year”
That’s a fair point, but regardless you’re still viewing through the lens of today when everyone knows that’s a load of bs considering when these threads were started.
You’re probably right, but it speaks to the passion of the fan base IMO.
Everyone on this board cares about Rutgers sports more than the majority of the people we meet every day.
We’re all absolute psychos and a lot of people took this year really badly early on, especially when the season was super hyped.
The people bumping it are doing so acting as if they’re better fans than others and it’s comical. No body on this board wants anything but success for RU athletics.
Bryce Aiken - Harvard transfer
Kadary Richmond - Syracuse transfer
Ike Obiagu - Florida State transfer
Alexis Yetna - South Florida transfer
Tray Jackson - Missouri transfer
Jamir Harris - American transfer
Jared Rhoden - #199 prospect
Tyrese Samuel - #184 prospect (also, from Canada)
Myles Cale - #92 recruit
Willard isn't really playing the AAU game at least not lately.
Not sure if you mean Seton Hall doing something different than RU. What gives you the impression they're doing something different than RU?? SHU made the likely tournament in 2019-20, missed the NCAAs last year and are back this year. Prior to last year, fueled by some obvious recruiting violations with NYCs Isiah Whitehead, they landed a strong class 5 or 6 years ago that rebuilt their program. SHU landed with a show cause and loss of scholarship or two a couple of years ago, while recruiting Taurean Thompson as a transfer from Syracuse, who ultimately flamed out and did very little for SHU.
SHU landed Jaquan Harris and Sanders, a very good CG out of NYC for 2022. Harris has had knee injuries that slowed his recruitment this past year. But I expect him to recover and be ready for next year.
RU landed Derek Simpson and has Jaden Jones already in the fold. I would take another guard/wing if I was RU, but they're already on top of that right now.
SHU has lived primarily via the transfer portal in the last 2 recruiting cycles,
Bryce Aiken
Kadary Richmond
Tray Jackson
Alexis Yetna
Ike Obiagu
Jamir Harris
That makes up a good amount of their minutes in the last year or two, but it's all via the portal.....which is 100% fine if that's what suits the staff for putting a roster together.....SHU has some pieces like RU, that just couldn't find minutes, but those players should have a chance to play next year.
I don't necessarily think there's one way to assemble a roster, but there's is really only one way to build a program.....RU is attempting to build a program, which is via building and creating a culture that fits what the identity or staff wants on and off the court.....vs just slapping together a random roster of pieces or players. There ultimately is a big difference in approach and in time, i believe that to win consistently, building a program is the best approach.
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how many of these threads are going to get bumped again, when they were bumped the previous dozen times, now a few of them again, its so silly
As stated a million times, there’s a difference between questioning the team and posting like a complete troll or dramatic lunatic.
Not sure why you still can’t see that difference.
Hopefully it's a learning point for the chicken littles who said the season was over after only a few games. Teams develop and fans need to be patient and have some faith in Pike and the players.
This thread just validates once again how lost KYk was and still is. He and a few other RIPPED Coach Pikiell up and down and wanted him fired in November. A few guys just take things to another level after one or two bad games. They should get off the ledge. Steve is an excellent coach and I am so glad he is our Basketball coach at Rutgers.
This one is getting bumped and talked about because the OP loved dumping on Pike all season, including last week with threads saying our non-conference scheduling would cost us a bid. Now that we are in, he hasn't posted a single "mea culpa" or anything that looks like praise for Pike and the team for clawing their way back to the dance.
I’d go to war for Pike but agree that we have probably one of the best basketball boards/board communities out there. I’d also say that the fans at the RAC are more knowledgeable and tuned in than most other fanbases.
The "passion of the fan base" is used way too frequently as an excuse for poor behavior. And while I agree that everyone cares about Rutgers sports, we're not all "absolute psychos." The majority are actually quite rational and reasonable...and are able to express frustration and disappointment without becoming completely unhinged.
Nah..its one thing to have reasonable disagreements
A bunch of folks (you included at times) were burying the coach and program while it was still breathing...while many of us were simply saying wait until the exam is over before grading it
Major major fail by many many posters
Hope you guys learn from it (especially you since you posted 2 years IN A ROW we wouldn't make the tournament)
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Youre wrong. I said if we missed the tourney it was because of the out of conference schedule. Like hours later wachtel, one of the top bracketologists literally tweeted the same exact thing
I don’t hide from my previous posts, you know that. That’s fine you think they were unwarranted, but IMO when people were killing the team, they earned it.
The only crime from the negatives posts is that some of those guys didn’t come back to praise the team when they got it going, and I will absolutely give you that.
As far as the exam is over point, that’s fair, but keep in mind we made NCAA history this year. All 4 of those ranked wins were required to make the tourney after our start, and no one saw that coming.
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