Where does Pike rank?

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We are cheap. I seem to remember pre Pike we had an opening and Pitino had a daughter going to school in NYC. He was dropping serious hints he would want our job but there was no way we were going to pay him. Seem to agree we would just get another low major overachiever. I guess it really matters who the next AD is

Pike is paid more than Pitino!

 

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Looking at the list, these guys have been there the whole time and done better than Pikiell:
Tom Izzo
Greg Gard
Matt Painter
Mick Cronin
Brad Underwood
Data Altman
Fran McCaffery

Additionally, Eric Musselman was coaching at a P5 level the whole time at has a higher average (+14.8) as did Kevin Willard (+16.1).

If I chop off Dusty May's first three years at FAU his average from 2022-2025 include three years in CUSA is about the same as Pike (mostly because 2022 was pretty bad). So I will also give him the nod.

So I think it would be reasonable to put those 10 above Pike.

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These guys have been there the whole time and done worse:
Fred Hoiberg
Chris Collins

Additionally Ben Johnson does not seem to have made much progress at Minnesota and Mike Woodson has only been slightly above Pike at Indiana despite it being Indiana and them putting their entire heart and soul into trying to win at basketball.

I would put those 4 as clearly below Pike.

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Jake Diebler and Danny Sprinkle it is clearly too early to tell. Personally I would rather have Pike I think but there's really not enough results to go on. Mike Rhoades kind of a toss up, his average over the period is a bit worse than Pike but 4 of the 6 years are at VCU which is obviously a lower level so not really a fair comparison. More wait and see. Probably I would put Pike like 2nd in that group of 4 including himself.

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So going by that we have Pike at ~12th in the 18

Pike is 14-15 at best. Can’t win in March conference tournaments or post season tournaments. When the lites are bright Pike is at his worst.

I do feel bad for him! All of the basketball world watching Ace and Dylan (scouts, player personnel, current and ex NBA players, etc). Pike has been exposed on just how awful of a coach he is. Poor guy knows it and is self destructing. Cursing in media ( I don’t care but clearly out of character. Skipping media then apologizing, the list goes on)

It will be a long time before he gets another power 4 job if ever.

 

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I'm going to minimize it (season long results are more important than tournament runs, they were an 8 seed) but even given that what he did at FAU was impressive and I put him on the "clearly above Pike" list.

Not including Iowa State, was only looking at 2020-25 but I dunno. He left Iowa State a full decade ago. He's had time to get it done at Nebraska and has been bad 5 out of 6 years. He also didn't take over a complete dumpster fire. But I will grant you it's maybe a bit closer than I gave him.

Well again I wasn't looking back to 2017 but 3 appearances in a 12 year span. Or 3 out of 9 if I give him the 3 free years.

Pike gets credit for three appearance in 9 years or 6 if you chop off three. That's better. Also just a better average team if you look at entire seasons. Also 2nd place finish at 12-8... tie breakers doing a lot of work there. You won't be able to convince me on this one.

He is #26 on this list

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Though I would note that:
There is a fair amount of bunching there. The gap between Pike and #10 is the same as the gap between Pike and ~#55. We would need to offer an established coach a significant premium if we wanted to poach them. Take Mike Boynton, kyk's favorite guy. He is at $3mm here, could we poach him for less than $4mm? Pike is at $3.5m. Are we going to pay a replacement MORE to start? If not, it's a dangerous game imo.

Pike

1 tournament bid out of 9 years and 1 play in game! Not 3 tournament bids!

- Worst lost in KenPom history
- 2nd worst defensive game in KenPom history.

 

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Rutgers has never made it out of the big 10 quarterfinals. Pikes record in the tourney atrocious..one good year where big deal beat Indiana and spirited effort in loss to Purdue in quarters that year with Geo/Corey