I went to a knicks game at Barclay's from hoboken one time. It sucked. It was a pain
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I drove to Brooklyn in the spring for a Nets game from West New York and it was ****ing miserable. Hell no to a full seasonExpand your horizons and see the world, you might learn something.
It had nothing to do with Barclay’sI went to a knicks game at Barclay's from hoboken one time. It sucked. It was a pain
Exactly, even add a month on either end if you have to but no way should they play a whole season off campus.WTF are they going to do renovations wise that cannot be completed between March 15 to November 1? Thats 7+ months. We built the god damn empire state building ground up in 1 year
It is well known that the side court seating is at such an angle that it would not be allowed to be built that way todayUnless we blow out the sides or remove the roof it will not impact the noise. And to do either one of those would be more expensive than building a new arena. In other words it’s not happening.
Taking subway weekly would be costly, imagine all the weapons would have to buy and get trained for.No one is going from nj to see Rutgers at the Barclays taking a shitty subway
They wouldn't play the majority of games at Barclay. Probably won't play any, so no need to get lathered up about the subway.Taking subway weekly would be costly, imagine all the weapons would have to buy and get trained for.
Yeah, and only a dozen people died and hundreds injured or maimed.WTF are they going to do renovations wise that cannot be completed between March 15 to November 1? Thats 7+ months. We built the god damn empire state building ground up in 1 year
Let's go with the assumption that we need to leave the RAC for one season (not sure if it's true, but I'm going with it..for argument sake).Play at the barn and season tickets holders get to go to half the home games and have a massive home court advantage.
Relax pal. I gave it as an example of a building a quarter mile in the sky taking a year while we cant add toilets and some luxury boxes in 7 months.Yeah, and only a dozen people died and hundreds injured or maimed.
Thered be maybe 1500 RU fans a game in brooklyn. Rutgers Maine in Brooklyn, o/u 500 fans?They should play closer to campus but Brooklyn is great. A lot of food options near the arena and the train is right outside. Could do worse for a handful of games
Who gives a fvck. Tell mike to hold this meat. The RAC doesnt need to be renovated in the first place. If he has a problem, take his name off the buildingWhy are we doing this?
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This. The barn has a capacity of 2500. Just play in the barn for a season if you cant find a crew to do this work in 7 months and instead they need 19 months to throw in some toilets and build some rooms. Its amazing to me how they cant get this done in 7 monthsLet's go with the assumption that we need to leave the RAC for one season (not sure if it's true, but I'm going with it..for argument sake).
It's a given that we will have a fraction of the attendance if we are not at the RAC.
Then the question becomes:
How much greater is our anticipated attendance at Pru/Jadwin/Cure vs Max Capacity at the Barn. Also when factoring the revenue we would give up when it's not our building where does that land us?
Every game at the Barn would be a sell out.
Every game at anywhere that is not the RAC would be some fractional capacity. (not the max capacity of Cure etc... it doesn't matter it won't fill up).
That's what needs to be compared.
Also my question to other season ticket holders.
Would you rather be able to go to as many games as you want in a given season at (Pru/Jadwin/Cure). Or rotate approx 1/2 at the Barn?
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The upgrade is designed for the people and entities who will be displacing many of the fans who post here. It is designed for people who probably don't even know who Cliff and Paul are.This upgrade should be welcomed with open arms , and we should all be just antsy to see what the plans are.
Nobody who posts here uses a bathroom or orders a drink or food?The upgrade is designed for the people and entities who will be displacing many of the fans who post here. It is designed for people who probably don't even know who Cliff and Paul are.
A full season at the barn is far more enjoyable than a full season at the rockI think we’re past the days of 500 fans as long as the team is decent. The Eddie-era teams would draw 500-1000 at the RAC and I’d rather watch this team in Missouri than go back to that. If they made Barclays games fairly high profile Saturday afternoon games they’d get a decent turnout, maybe 2-3000, which I don’t think would be that different from other non-RAC/Pru/MSG venues (my preferences in order).
One-offs at the Barn would be cool but a whole season would be absolutely miserable. Not well set up for modern media, would cut out 50%+ of our season ticket holders (not even giving them the option to buy), no parking (I can’t believe the Newark parking complaints here are being followed by suggestions to play at the Barn for a year). It just wouldn’t work for that many games.
I first want to know if I am obligated to buy seasons tickets to maintain my longevity pointsLet's go with the assumption that we need to leave the RAC for one season (not sure if it's true, but I'm going with it..for argument sake).
It's a given that we will have a fraction of the attendance if we are not at the RAC.
Then the question becomes:
How much greater is our anticipated attendance at Pru/Jadwin/Cure vs Max Capacity at the Barn. Also when factoring the revenue we would give up when it's not our building where does that land us?
Every game at the Barn would be a sell out.
Every game at anywhere that is not the RAC would be some fractional capacity. (not the max capacity of Cure etc... it doesn't matter it won't fill up).
That's what needs to be compared.
Also my question to other season ticket holders.
Would you rather be able to go to as many games as you want in a given season at (Pru/Jadwin/Cure). Or rotate approx 1/2 at the Barn?
A full season at the barn is far more enjoyable than a full season at the rock
LmfaoWe wouldn’t play 15 games there but your commute =/= the fan base’s commute, nor does the trip from Rutgers to Barclays (which would probably be the bigger issue than the fan base TBH). As mentioned, Barclays is as close or closer than the RAC to large population centers in NJ plus NYC.
If you're traveling by helicopter maybe. It's 35 minutes on train from Newark to NB. You think you can get to Barclays from Newark in under an hour???Barclays is about the same amount of time from Newark as the RAC, and is closer to Hoboken and Jersey City.
This. The barn has a capacity of 2500. Just play in the barn for a season if you cant find a crew to do this work in 7 months and instead they need 19 months to throw in some toilets and build some rooms. Its amazing to me how they cant get this done in 7 months
Give it up. Barclays would be a HORRIBLE venue for us, and would easily be a 2-hour commute for a majority of our fan base. It’s not even in the conversation. It’s The Rock, Trenton, or Jadwin.Right now, the trip from Newark to Barclays is 47 minutes. 1 PATH train and 1 subway. Couldn’t be easier, so yes, I know that you can make it from Newark to Barclays in under an hour.
I never said the average Rutgers basketball fan lives in Newark, you should re-read that to understand better. I said that the trip from Newark, Hoboken, and Jersey City (along with NYC) is shorter to Barclays than the RAC, which is generally accurate. Newark is probably slightly shorter on weeknights with the express trains, assuming you time the trip right with the less frequent NEC trains vs. PATH/MTA.
Given the sizes of those population centers and their surrounding areas, it’s reasonable to assume many Rutgers grads live in those areas, and would have as easy of a time or an easier time getting to Brooklyn vs. the RAC, without it taking 2 hours like you’re claiming. This is all disregarding that you are still allowed to drive into Brooklyn, although it’s more of a challenge (again, especially on weeknights).
If the argument is the RAC is the best option, I’d 100% agree with that. But nobody here is debating Barclays vs. the RAC, it’s compared to other options. In lieu of the RAC, Barclays is not anywhere near as impossible to get to as most here are claiming. Probably more difficult for many fans going to games currently, but there would be alums going to games who are currently unable to due to their own long trips to the RAC (although again, it wouldn’t be like the RAC, nor would any other option).
I’m confident P. Hobbs is smart enough to realize Brooklyn is a debacle for us and that he’ll do everything he can to move few to no home games off of the Livingston campus.Give it up. Barclays would be a HORRIBLE venue for us, and would easily be a 2-hour commute for a majority of our fan base. It’s not even in the conversation. It’s The Rock, Trenton, or Jadwin.
Geez, give it up is right. It’s clear that virtually nobody wants to go to Brooklyn! My preferences would be Jadwin, Rock, Trenton in that order.Unless a majority of our fan base is South Jersey or further, wouldn’t be 2 hours for the majority. I’m still saying it’ll be Prudential unless they can’t work out the scheduling, but again, a couple of weekend games at Barclays wouldn’t be the end of the world for anyone capable of using Google Maps.