Beat writers think Laviano will be named starter

[RRRRUUUU]

Fans see to want Rettig, but based on some tweets by Ryan Dunleavy and fan favorite Dan Duggan, the expectation seems to be Laviano. Although it does sound like Rettig could see some snaps as well.

Will make for an interesting (on-field related) week ahead of Washington State.

 

[SirScarlet]

Fans see to want Rettig, but based on some tweets by Ryan Dunleavy and fan favorite Dan Duggan, the expectation seems to be Laviano. Although it does sound like Rettig could see some snaps as well.

Will make for an interesting (on-field related) week ahead of Washington State.

Personally I think it should be Rettig, but I think Flood's going to name Laviano

That said CL played well and seems very comfortable running the offense so I am good with whoever is selected

 

[RUich]

I know that Flood usually says he gives a long leash but I think this is really a different situation than he is used to and more comfortable with.
If whomever he picks to start begins to falter, I honestly believe he will bring in the other guy.
Make no mistake, he wants to win first and foremost. If we had a guy ready to play last season, I think Nova would have been pulled from the PSU game. The fact was that Laviano was most likely not ready yet.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Both QBs were impressive and I have confidence in either one.
Both will play on Saturday.

Rettig made some nice throws and runs but let's remember that he should have thrown 1 INT and Patton made a great catch on a poorly thrown ball.
RU also had to take 2 timeouts with Rettig when he would have not gotten plays off.
I could also nitpick and say that Rettig had Agudosi wide open in the end zone but instead threw it to a wide open Flannigan at the 5 who scored anyways.
I'd give him an A- with that said, though he looked in command and very impressive.

Laviano had it easier certainly with Carroo in the game, a bigger lead after Grant's KO return TD and he also faced a tired and beat up Norfolk defense.
Carroo also bailed him out in an underthow but I see that often in CFB and even in the NFL.
With that said he had less to do but I give him a A for what he did on the field and he looked in command.

It's a good "problem" to have, 2 solid QBs.
If one struggles in a game we know that there is another guy that can step right in and not be a big drop off.

That was the popular complaint last season, that Flood did not give Laviano enough snaps to be ready if Nova would go down to injury or struggle like he did vs Pen St.

 

[RU62]

Anything Duggan says doesn't count!

 

[Caliknight]

I'm sure Flood would tell this hated blogger exactly what his plans are.

 

[Caliknight]

Both QBs were impressive and I have confidence in either one.
Both will play on Saturday.

Rettig made some nice throws and runs but let's remember that he should have thrown 1 INT and Patton made a great catch on a poorly thrown ball.
RU also had to take 2 timeouts with Rettig when he would have not gotten plays off.
I could also nitpick and say that Rettig had Agudosi wide open in the end zone but instead threw it to a wide open Flannigan at the 5 who scored anyways.
I'd give him an A- with that said, though he looked in command and very impressive.

Laviano had it easier certainly with Carroo in the game, a bigger lead after Grant's KO return TD and he also faced a tired and beat up Norfolk defense.
Carroo also bailed him out in an underthow but I see that often in CFB and even in the NFL.
With that said he had less to do but I give him a A for what he did on the field and he looked in command.

It's a good "problem" to have, 2 solid QBs.
If one struggles in a game we know that there is another guy that can step right in and not be a big drop off.

That was the popular complaint last season, that Flood did not give Laviano enough snaps to be ready if Nova would go down to injury or struggle like he did vs Pen St.

At least one one of those t.o.'s is on the staff. They play didn't come in until way late in the clock.

 

[alex13rufan]

I believe it will be Laviano. Once Laviano fails, then it will go to rettig.

Won't cost us this game.
I don't like that scenario at penn state.

 

[rudad02]

Both QBs were impressive and I have confidence in either one.
Both will play on Saturday.

Rettig made some nice throws and runs but let's remember that he should have thrown 1 INT and Patton made a great catch on a poorly thrown ball.
RU also had to take 2 timeouts with Rettig when he would have not gotten plays off.
I could also nitpick and say that Rettig had Agudosi wide open in the end zone but instead threw it to a wide open Flannigan at the 5 who scored anyways.
I'd give him an A- with that said, though he looked in command and very impressive.

Laviano had it easier certainly with Carroo in the game, a bigger lead after Grant's KO return TD and he also faced a tired and beat up Norfolk defense.
Carroo also bailed him out in an underthow but I see that often in CFB and even in the NFL.
With that said he had less to do but I give him a A for what he did on the field and he looked in command.

It's a good "problem" to have, 2 solid QBs.
If one struggles in a game we know that there is another guy that can step right in and not be a big drop off.

That was the popular complaint last season, that Flood did not give Laviano enough snaps to be ready if Nova would go down to injury or struggle like he did vs Pen St.

The ball to Patton was beautifully thrown. Laviano's first TD pass to Carroo was under thrown.

 

[Knightmoves]

I'd like to see Coach Flood play both QB's next week. Let the eventual starter earn the position. Based on what we saw yesterday I can't choose one or the other as the starter. They both played very well, although Laviano benefitted by playing against a gassed NSU defense along with having Caroo to throw to.

I am OK with a 2 QB system this season.

 

[RU82]

This is an unfamiliar luxury for RU fans. And with Russo coming in it seems we're going to be at least decent at the QB position for the foreseeable future.

Nice.

 

[jreinsdorf]

If the game plan is a ball control keep away offense with safe throws and lots of running it could make a lot of sense to start Laviano

 

[Abro1975]

I just watched the replay with Al Groh as commentator (Excellent insights, but his low raspy voice is not great for the microphone to pick up), anyway Groh said Flood missed an opportunity in getting Rettig some experience in a 2 minute offense at end of first half against a team they should pull away from in 2nd half. At that point I realized Flood didn't need to get Rettig experience running a 2 minute offense because he won't be the starting QB coming this week.

Groh also commented in the second half that RU has completely changed the game plan in the second half going more up tempo. Another hint.

 

[RU76]

Best pass of the was the one Rettig threw that was called back on a penalty. Best QB play of the day was Rettig making a tackle on the turnover. Love Laviano just as much. Hope they both play.

 

[imbazza2]

There is an advantage just like the RBs when a guy get in he will do his best to produce and we may put up another 60 is the both QBs are still battling for first place.
GO BOTH QB show us what you can do when you get in!

 

[rufeelinit]

Ideally you want to settle on one unless they bring different skills sets such as one being more of a run pass threat while they other being a more prolific passer. In this case I don't think there is that much distinction in style of play. If Laviano starts then I can only think he was the leader before the curfew issue.

 

[Finster Baby]

Boy what the hell am I missing. I thought Rettig was the better qb. Laviano was lucky to have Caroo out there. Rettig 's only slip up was the pass to the lb. If you look at the reply it appears that the lb was behind the ref. Not good but not a complete eff up as well. I'm a Rettig man at this point. I like the guy that sticks around campus to get better. I like the qb who gets back before curfew. My two cents.

 

[Best7Years]

I"d like to see a starter named b/c I think it's best for the team and season to have a QB who can take the majority of snaps in practice which will build chemistry and maximize their progress. If I was the coach and it was too close to call, but one broke curfew and got caught using a fake ID, that would have forced my decision (doubly so given the bad press this year). I wouldn't say never to CL being the starter, but the job would have been Rettig's and Laviano would have to clearly outplay him to be named starter.

 

[ru-baby]

If true no surprise. If fliood makes it that laviano has to make errors for rettig to play- as opposed to being based on best chance to win-it will be very disappointing. More of the flood blind spot of old that we hoped he outgrew. Please save the maybe flood thinks cl gives the best chance based on the game as he evidently from quotes had his mind made up before the first half performance.

 

[RU848789]

Rettig made some nice throws and runs but let's remember that he should have thrown 1 INT and Patton made a great catch on a poorly thrown ball.

Did you actually watch that throw? Live, I thought it was one of the best throws of the day and replay confirmed it. He threw it high and outside where only Patton could catch it and Patton did make a good catch. I thought Rettig played slightly better, but I thought both played very well, so I have no issue with either guy starting - whoever starts, I hope the other guy gets real reps next week.

 

[mikefla]

I was a Rettig supported coming into the game and he played VERY well...his mechanics and stature are perfect.....

But....I actually thought the team responded better to Laviano....yup..I know he had Caroo and I know NFState was worn down,,,,,,it just seemed like the team "rallied".....

Just my 2 cents

 

[SkilletHead2]

Both guys looked good in a real game situation, but not a high pressure game situation. I'm guessing both guys see substantial action next week, and to me, that would be a good thing to do.

 

[RUonBrain]

Laviano did not really have enough chances to say who played better
For Pete's sake, he threw what, 4 passes?

Give them both some playing time next week. I don't think you need to rush this decision.

Sure, you'd like 1 guy to get more 1st team reps, but not sure there is a lot of separation between the 2

I know it is a different position, but if it basically a tie, I hate to see 1 guy sit on the bench for 3 years. (You wouldn't do that with RBs since you want to keep them all at least somewhat happy and not transfer. Never know when 1 might be injured and you HAVE to switch. You would like your backup to have some experience)

 

[IL Lusciato]

Can't stand people acting as if Laviano is a sure failure or downgrade.

The kid came in and played well and he seemed to be in command of the men on the team.

Some of you guys are just ridiculous at this point. Really.

For the record I was just as enamored s the thought of Rettig when he transferred and I forgot about Laviano all last year. Then the spring came and I have long thought Chris was the leader and had a spark. BUT when it appeared Hayden had won the job I was all on board. I was impressed and I had no clue Laviano would coem in the 2nd half.

After seeing Rettig, I was kinda disappointed Laviano was in. BUT you could see and feel a difference with Laviano in. He had a spark and energy and the team followed suit. The offense ran like a machine on every drive. At that point myself and those around me said Laviano should be the guy, but I still love Hayden Rettig.

Some of you will go to such great lengths just to justify your bias toward Rettig. But its getting tired. If Laviano starts its bc he deserves it, not bc of some nonsense abot floods bias.

The only people who are biased are those who started threads about conspiracies bc Laviano had a good quarter with carrooo. You started threads saying it had to be rigged, not bc Laviano was not good, but bc since he was very good, you needed to find a way to sabatage his showing. If u r not lifting Rettig, but trying to ignore Laviano, you have a bias.

 

[Caliknight]

No one is saying Lavisno is a failure. Jus liked what we saw more in Hayden Rettig.

 

[Rutgers 2004]

Did you actually watch that throw? Live, I thought it was one of the best throws of the day and replay confirmed it. He threw it high and outside where only Patton could catch it and Patton did make a good catch. I thought Rettig played slightly better, but I thought both played very well, so I have no issue with either guy starting - whoever starts, I hope the other guy gets real reps next week.

good catch? it was an amazing catch and more on the receiver than the QB. rettig threw it where only the wr could get it, true, but it was either an overthrow or an amazing catch. it was an amazing catch.

 

[Ru2bnj]

The coaching staff ...whose job security greatly depends on putting the right players on the field will make a much better decision than the larger peanut gallery. I thought both QBs played really well. Retting made some real nice throws....especially the slant over the middle to Grant ..when he got one in the chops. Laviano seemed to command the offense and I thought looked very good throwing the ball...especially the roll out to the left when he hit Carroo over the middle...not an easy throw. As for the deep ball to Carroo...it was a little underthrown...however he did recognize that he had one on one coverage and put the ball up where the WR could make a play on it. You certainly would not want to overthrow that one. I'll support either guy....RU has a nice problem at the position.

 

[WJLeggett]

No one is saying Lavisno is a failure. Jus liked what we saw more in Hayden Rettig.

I agree that Rettig on the whole looked better yesterday. But I also think that as fans we are putting way more importance on what happened in the game than maybe the staff is. This decision is about the entire body of work going back to the spring and through summer camp. If Laviano does not screw up and get himself suspended for a half, I think he would have been named the starter outright, and then we're not having this discussion right now. The bottom line is I think we have 2 QBs who can run this system. But I also think that you can't really have 2 QBs over the long haul. At some point, sooner rather than later, one needs to be designated the starter.

 

[RU848789]

good catch? it was an amazing catch and more on the receiver than the QB. rettig threw it where only the wr could get it, true, but it was either an overthrow or an amazing catch. it was an amazing catch.

Sorry, I've watched the replay multiple times and it was a very good catch, not an amazing catch. Patton is tall and can jump and Rettig threw it where he could jump to catch it, whereas if he had thrown it head high, it's likely to be broken up by the shorter DB. Maybe we're splitting hairs here, but to me that's a great throw and a very good catch.

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

I agree that Rettig on the whole looked better yesterday. But I also think that as fans we are putting way more importance on what happened in the game than maybe the staff is. This decision is about the entire body of work going back to the spring and through summer camp. If Laviano does not screw up and get himself suspended for a half, I think he would have been named the starter outright, and then we're not having this discussion right now. The bottom line is I think we have 2 QBs who can run this system. But I also think that you can't really have 2 QBs over the long haul. At some point, sooner rather than later, one needs to be designated the starter.

I guess I'm just about the only one who thinks Laviano looks more poised, comfortable, in command at QB.

I can't help but think Rettig has greater upside and is more likely to be a better QB in the future --- but right now, based on what I see... i think Laviano is the better choice to start.... (but, what do I know)..........

 

[IL Lusciato]

I guess I'm just about the only one who thinks Laviano looks more poised, comfortable, in command at QB.

I can't help but think Rettig has greater upside and is more likely to be a better QB in the future --- but right now, based on what I see... i think Laviano is the better choice to start.... (but, what do I know)..........

No, myself and many others agree with you.

 

[RU2055]

Laviano's first TD was severely under thrown and would have been picked off by a B1G CB. The second TD was thrown behind Carroo who made a great play snagging the ball. The third TD was all Carroo who made defenders look silly.

Rettig played much better and deserve to be the starter.

 

[IL Lusciato]

Laviano's first TD was severely under thrown and would have been picked off by a B1G CB. The second TD was thrown behind Carroo who made a great play snagging the ball. The third TD was all Carroo who made defenders look silly.

Rettig played much better and deserve to be the starter.

This is hilarious.

 

[Knight Shift]

This is hilarious.

It is more sad than hilarious. We have 2 QBs who played great. Instead of celebrating, we have fans crapping on both of them. Same old RUTGERS fans.

 

[rutgersguy1]

I don't see it as crapping on as much as here's who I like and here's why from what I saw in the game. I think most think it seems like we have 2 serviceable qbs. Personally, I wouldn't go much beyond that because we haven't seen them against stepped up competition and in different game situations.

I liked what I saw from Rettig a little more and would have liked to see him with Caroo. But you know, it's a small sample size for us fans and only against weak Norfolk State. We don't see practice and any of the behind the scenes stuff.

I tend to agree that the way the game played out I feel like there's a preference towards Laviano. I prefer Rettig from the small sample size but if it's Laviano so be it. If he doesn't stumble majorly on the field, I think the staff likes him. I'm guessing both might get some playing time against WSU but I'd like this to be settled sooner rather than later.

I'm very iffy on the 2 qb thing. It's not like either qb brings another dimension to the game like superior mobility (like A&M). The quicker it gets settled I think the better for the team.

No matter what I think you're going to see a whole back and forth just like Dodd/Nova and even Hart/Teel to a degree. It's inevitable that bumps in the road are going to happen whoever the qb is and when they do as usual the guy on the bench is going to be popular.

 

[Knight Shift]

I don't see it as crapping on as much as here's who I like and here's why from what I saw in the game. I think most think it seems like we have 2 serviceable qbs. Personally, I wouldn't go much beyond that because we haven't seen them against stepped up competition and in different game situations.

I liked what I saw from Rettig a little more and would have liked to see him with Caroo. But you know, it's a small sample size for us fans and only against weak Norfolk State. We don't see practice and any of the behind the scenes stuff.

I tend to agree that the way the game played out I feel like there's a preference towards Laviano. I prefer Rettig from the small sample size but if it's Laviano so be it. If he doesn't stumble majorly on the field, I think the staff likes him. I'm guessing both might get some playing time against WSU but I'd like this to be settled sooner rather than later.

I'm very iffy on the 2 qb thing. It's not like either qb brings another dimension to the game like superior mobility (like A&M). The quicker it gets settled I think the better for the team.

No matter what I think you're going to see a whole back and forth just like Dodd/Nova and even Hart/Teel to a degree. It's inevitable that bumps in the road are going to happen whoever the qb is and when they do as usual the guy on the bench is going to be popular.

Calling passes severely underthrown or behind the receiver is not crapping on a QB? How do we know if Carroo ran the right route, or if it was a timing issue. Some of the nitpicking comments here are pathetic. I don't care which QB starts. I trust the coaches will make the right decision.

 

[Saint Puppy]

IMO it's going to be a system with a QB having a short leash....I know this is counter to the Flood ideology, but just my gut.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Calling passes severely underthrown or behind the receiver is not crapping on a QB? How do we know if Carroo ran the right route, or if it was a timing issue. Some of the nitpicking comments here are pathetic. I don't care which QB starts. I trust the coaches will make the right decision.

By and large I don't see a lot of this guy sucks or that guy sucks, hard to say when both performed well. It does seem close so when it's so close people end up nitpicking because there's nothing else to show clear separation.

Regardless like I said, whoever it is there are going to be hiccups and tough patches and when that happens the guy on the bench is going to be popular. It's the nature of the beast, especially when it seems this close.

 

[RoxboroughKnight]

I liked Rettig but it was a small sample size for Laviano. Tough to draw too many conclusions from 4 passes. I hope they both play vs. WSU.

 

[jellyman]

Can't stand people acting as if Laviano is a sure failure or downgrade.

The kid came in and played well and he seemed to be in command of the men on the team.

Some of you guys are just ridiculous at this point. Really.

For the record I was just as enamored s the thought of Rettig when he transferred and I forgot about Laviano all last year. Then the spring came and I have long thought Chris was the leader and had a spark. BUT when it appeared Hayden had won the job I was all on board. I was impressed and I had no clue Laviano would coem in the 2nd half.

After seeing Rettig, I was kinda disappointed Laviano was in. BUT you could see and feel a difference with Laviano in. He had a spark and energy and the team followed suit. The offense ran like a machine on every drive. At that point myself and those around me said Laviano should be the guy, but I still love Hayden Rettig.

Some of you will go to such great lengths just to justify your bias toward Rettig. But its getting tired. If Laviano starts its bc he deserves it, not bc of some nonsense abot floods bias.

The only people who are biased are those who started threads about conspiracies bc Laviano had a good quarter with carrooo. You started threads saying it had to be rigged, not bc Laviano was not good, but bc since he was very good, you needed to find a way to sabatage his showing. If u r not lifting Rettig, but trying to ignore Laviano, you have a bias.

In my opinion this s a very good post (for whatever my opinion is worth ... which is exactly nothing).

There is no doubt that Rettig showed well. He read progressions, he move in the pocket, he made 9 excellent throws (the near interception and a too long sideline pass targeting Agudosi were the 2 exceptions), he showed reasonable mobility on 2 scrambles.

But Laviano also did well. He did not get a chance to run through progressions because Caroo made an amazing catch and run for 55 yards on his 1st (and under-thrown) pass, and then Caroo was so wide open anyone on this board might have been able to complete the pass to him (no defender within 15 yards of him, seemingly) - and then ran it in for 56 yards. His other 2 passes (and completions) were designed screens - 1 to James and the bubble screen to Caroo ... the last of which also went for a TD. But he DID complete all 4 of those passes. And there is also no doubt the staff had Laviano play at a totally different tempo than they had Rettig play at: several no huddle situations, for one. And I agree the offense looked a little crisper with Laviano in ... though he DID have the benefit of playing against a surely more worn down NSU defense, and having Caroo in the game. Do not underestimate the difference just having Caroo in the game makes.

It did look to me, by feel only, that Laviano maybe had a slightly better command of the playbook and offense than did Rettig. But that Rettig uses more of the field and spreads the ball around better ... maybe. A push and pull.