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BTN Tonight : Doomsday Scenario

I disagree I think we can get to where Schiano left us very quickly, all we
need is to lose to a last place team that has a 0 and 11 record. ( by the
way, in a very weak conference not the B1G. So let's not give up hope.)
 
You guys don't understand how difficult it is to run a successful program at this level.
We can easily be the worst team in the B1G, we might be right now
Totally agree. I expect to have 3-5 wins for the next few years and no one can change it now even with a change in HC. Flood recruits are coming and the defense shows their performance. We have below average defense and a little better offense. Most teams have either a good defense or offense. A good offense will out score us and a good defense will allow their offense to outscore us. Watch out for the teams that have a good offense and defense which are a lot of the Big Ten teams.
 
Fridge's salary was supplemented, you have to present a candidate to the donors they think is worthy of giving money too, then he needs to assemble a competent staff.
And yes, I do and have given more than seat donation.

I didn't intend to single you out with the question, rather I was suggesting that all of the fanbase needs to participate in ways beyond just buying RU gear and tickets. We all need to give, whatever we can. I realize the average fan may not see the value of a small contribution. But it adds up. That's how you build a program. It's a leap of faith to contribute to a program that is stumbling, one that you may not support in its current state. Yet it is essential in order to move forward.
 
You guys don't understand how difficult it is to run a successful program at this level.
We can easily be the worst team in the B1G, we might be right now
I don't think so. I think we'll always be in a much better position than Purdue/Indiana and probably at least as good as Northwestern/Illinois/Minnesota/Iowa. Mind you in the coming years we'll be rotating playing these teams too, no more Wisconsin/Nebraska combo every year. Right now yes we could be at or near the bottom. But I don't think for one second that we're below all these teams in potential and it doesn't take a lot for us to be better than most of them.

The goal is over time to become what Wisconsin/MSU have become and I have no less faith in that happening now than I have before. You find the right people and you'll be fine, you don't and you'll suck for a bit and you try again. I'd rather be us than all those lower tier B10 schools I mentioned. I think we have more ingredients to become good than they do and I wouldn't switch places.
 
I don't think so. I think we'll always be in a much better position than Purdue/Indiana and probably at least as good as Northwestern/Illinois/Minnesota/Iowa. Mind you in the coming years we'll be rotating playing these teams too, no more Wisconsin/Nebraska combo every year. Right now yes we could be at or near the bottom. But I don't think for one second that we're below all these teams in potential and it doesn't take a lot for us to be better than most of them.

The goal is over time to become what Wisconsin/MSU have become and I have no less faith in that happening now than I have before. You find the right people and you'll be fine, you don't and you'll suck for a bit and you try again. I'd rather be us than all those lower tier B10 schools I mentioned. I think we have more ingredients to become good than they do and I wouldn't switch places.
I think you're delusional unfortunately, or I should say unfortunately for me...I have no faith in the administration putting the right people in place and we're sitting right next to Indiana and Purdue right now, maybe worse than both of them.
 
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Alot of the stuff in this thread has been discussed for years and it hasn't changed since we are in the Big 10. Fact and harsh reality is that Rutgers does not belong in the Big 10. Do you think Connecticut would be economizing and pissiing away opportunity

Sorry but I do not agree with this statement at all.

No change could had been made after the AAC season due to the huge fees we had to pay, there was just no money and even with that we nearly made a change anyway but certain people outside of Rutgers (donors) got cold feet.

1st year in the big ten and we paid Fridge 700,000 to be our OC, that is B1G money right there. We also went 8-5. Sorry but you couldn't fire Flood after that.

This year it is a whole different story.
 
In the long run, none of the football program's current issues is really that bad. I'd say the Mike Rice situation was worse, and here we are a few years later with it pretty much behind us. And even if everything Schiano built fell apart, it wouldn't take that long to rebuild provided you had the right coach in place. Schiano took over in 2001. What was the high point of his tenure at Rutgers? 2006. So the program went from the dregs to its apex in six years. That's not too bad, and it could be done again if need be with the right coach. Just remember, the media is trying to weave a narrative to sell a story, and the sky is falling makes for a good story.


This post is spot on. There is so much hyperbole and sky is falling in the first post it is tough to read. Talk of returning to pre-Schiano levels is just nonsense. Are they going to take back the expanded stadium, the Hale Center, and the Big Ten membership? Because those were a big part of why the Terry Shea years happened.

It obviously seems bad right now. A bunch of bad things happened in a row, and we are staring at a 4 win season. But life will go on. If the administration changes nothing, and hires a coach on the cheap as many people fear, we will still be in a position to win 6 games a year. DO people realize what the bottom of any major conference looks like? Since 2000, Purdue has averaged 5.8 wins per year. Indiana has averaged 3.6 wins, Illinois 4.75 wins, even Northwestern 6.26 wins per year.

Now that we are a Big Ten team playing with the big boys, we will never be more than the right coach away from having a modestly successful program. To get to the top, you need investment. But to get to the middle of the pack, all you need is a decent coach.
 
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You not only need a decent coach, you need to pay a top flight staff to come with him, what makes you think there's any chance of that happening?
 
Sorry but I do not agree with this statement at all.

No change could had been made after the AAC season due to the huge fees we had to pay, there was just no money and even with that we nearly made a change anyway but certain people outside of Rutgers (donors) got cold feet.

1st year in the big ten and we paid Fridge 700,000 to be our OC, that is B1G money right there. We also went 8-5. Sorry but you couldn't fire Flood after that.

This year it is a whole different story.
We paid Fridge 500K to be our OC. We offered Smith 500K to be the DC, Arkansas matched and he went there and they've since raised it. We also hired away a top wrestling assistant from deep pocketed Michigan. There was talk about a better budget for hiring an assistant in the basketball program but like Smith it fell through. But the hire we have now and the current staff seem to be making some strides judging by the tone of the basketball board. We raised the salary and increased the buyout of Flood with private money, a move quite a few here didn't like.

Point is I see the steps in the right direction even if they're not all coming to fruition right away. And mind again this is without a penny of B10 money. So I don't feel pessimistic because I see things coming around slowly.

Plus I've given the examples of the type of coaches most schools hire and the parameters of their contracts and we by and large are in line with it.

Rather than focus on these things, it's hyperbole and the end of the world. But you know what it's fans being fans and it's the same everywhere whatever shape and form it may take. What can you do.
 
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You not only need a decent coach, you need to pay a top flight staff to come with him, what makes you think there's any chance of that happening?
We're not paying top dollars for coordinators like you see in the SEC. But if we pay 400-500K for coordinators and reasonable salaries for assistant I'm perfectly fine with that. And judging by what we did with Fridge and tried to do with Smith I think we will if justified by coaching acumen. Frost made 370K last year bumped up to 400K. Herman made 400-500K at OSU. And many coordinators are in that vicinity or slightly more. Only in the SEC and a few select schools do you see those exorbitant numbers nearing 1M. That 1M+ salary didn't help Muschamp from getting runover by LSU on Saturday or how about when Michigan had a couple 700K coordinators under Hoke.
 
Myth: Rutgers is cheap when it comes to athletics. Rutgers economizes and pinches pennies on sports.

Truth: Rutgers spends more of the university general funds on athletics than any other FBS school, bar none. This is known to many as "The Subsidy". Rutgers has the largest by a wide margin. Rutgers is the opposite of cheap when it comes to athletics. What we don't have is a reliable base of large donors. Rutgers is not cheap. Rutgers' fans are cheap.
 
I agree with Dinardo, our fans can't take or understand criticism and reality. Yup, what GS did here was remarkable perception wise....and it's all about to crumble.
The people that constantly criticize the media and yell the sky is falling, the sky is falling in an attempt to downplay our situation are the delusional ones.

This.
 
Umm... We aren't in that bad of a situation. We still don't know what we have with this year's team - and if you think you can judge the team based on the games we've played so far you're wrong.
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Couldn't disagree more and many here saw it coming from a mile away. This team, this season - barring multiple minor miracles - is most unfortunately going nowhere.
 
As a fan of the men's Basketball program you can get a better appreciation of where the football program is. The infrastructure is there. All that is needed a quality hire and we are back in business. AND our ability to find the right hire is 10X easier than basketball.

I have not seen the word facilities in any arguement. We are talking about $ paid to coaches which is variable and doesn't require a humongous cash outlay.
 
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We're not paying top dollars for coordinators like you see in the SEC. But if we pay 400-500K for coordinators and reasonable salaries for assistant I'm perfectly fine with that. And judging by what we did with Fridge and tried to do with Smith I think we will if justified by coaching acumen. Frost made 370K last year bumped up to 400K. Herman made 400-500K at OSU. And many coordinators are in that vicinity or slightly more. Only in the SEC and a few select schools do you see those exorbitant numbers nearing 1M. That 1M+ salary didn't help Muschamp from getting runover by LSU on Saturday or how about when Michigan had a couple 700K coordinators under Hoke.

This. We've figured it out before, IIRC, spending $5.5M/year, tops, on a complete, solid staff, with $2.5-3M of that being for the HC.
 
This is the real doomsday:

“It’s a single and easy conclusion to come to,” said Pernetti when asked if he “settled” for Flood. “But if I felt in any way that Kyle didn’t match the criterion and couldn’t do the job, I would’ve continued this search through signing day. Some people can assume (he settled for Flood) but I don’t feel that way.”

Nor does Pernetti feel he’s taking a great risk going with a man with no head coaching experience at any level.

“At the end of the day, no matter who you hire there’s always going to be some risk,” said Pernetti, who spoke with Schiano throughout the coaching search. “I will tell you I take a deeper dive in these searches than I think most do.”

Pernetti tried to shrug off the thought his legacy at Rutgers is now directly connected to Flood more than any other hire.

Since taking over the program four years ago, Pernetti has hired seven coaches: men’s basketball (Mike Rice), men’s soccer (Dan Donegan), field hockey (Meredith Long), men’s lacrosse (Brian Brecht), gymnastics (Lou Levine), swimming and diving (Phil Spiniello) and Flood.

“My legacy is more about every move we make,” Pernetti said. ``This will be the seventh coach I've hired in less than three years and I'm banking on every single one of them. ... Naturally, this one will get bigger visibility, but if I had any reservations, I wouldn’t have hired this guy.”
 
For those of you who have a hard time reading between the lines, he is saying that the university needs to step up and spend the money to replace the coaching staff and hire the type of HC and coaching staff that can turn things around and get Rutgers back to what they were (2006 or better). If they allow the football program to continue on this path, we are going to be looking at the Flood Era the same way we look at the Shea era. The university is at a crossroads, they will either show that they don't care and keep on keeping on and let the football program fall into the abyss (remember our best plays are gone after this year) or are they going to show a willingness to step up and make some serious changes to right this stinking ship?

And this. We are playing with the big boys now. We were given a once in lifetime shot at the big kids table. Whatever off the field issues the BIG may face (ahem PSU, ahem OSU under Tressel) from the top teams (historically speaking, before I hear a barrage of Franklin sucks, PSU has been down awhile and so on), they fix them in a professional and competent manner.

What's happening at Rutgers just doesn't happen at other schools and programs. We have a serious problem with our football program right now across every dimension of the program.

It needs to be addressed and quickly.

For those with more knowledge of RU athletics and finances: Is it actually possible to take a loan from the BIG against future revenues? Would a NJ bank front us $15M (assuming a $4M salary for 3 years plus associated buyout costs) against projected B10 revenues?
 
Kyle getting hired was nothing more than a product of Tim wanting to hire one of Greg's guys. Nothing more, nothing less, IMHO.
 
This. We've figured it out before, IIRC, spending $5.5M/year, tops, on a complete, solid staff, with $2.5-3M of that being for the HC.
I don't know the numbers but I think our pool for assistants was the most it's ever been. Again it may not be tops and may need to be increased more but it's the direction I'm looking at. Same for coordinators, the most we've ever paid and offered. Wrestling same. Basketball staff same. Salary raise/buyout same. It's the direction and general feel I'm interested in and I think it's moving the right way. Again looking at many other schools, not everyone, our salary figures and the type of hire we'd make are in line.

Also record number of donors to the AD. That's good and something I've always been saying. We need to expand the pool of donors (disinterested alums, local non alums/businesses). It's most likely still not nearly enough but again it's the right direction.

This the kind of stuff I'm looking at not whatever blather is out there.
 
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We paid Fridge 500K to be our OC. We offered Smith 500K to be the DC, Arkansas matched and he went there and they've since raised it. We also hired away a top wrestling assistant from deep pocketed Michigan. There was talk about a better budget for hiring an assistant in the basketball program but like Smith it fell through. But the hire we have now and the current staff seem to be making some strides judging by the tone of the basketball board. We raised the salary and increased the buyout of Flood with private money, a move quite a few here didn't like.

Point is I see the steps in the right direction even if they're not all coming to fruition right away. And mind again this is without a penny of B10 money. So I don't feel pessimistic because I see things coming around slowly.

Plus I've given the examples of the type of coaches most schools hire and the parameters of their contracts and we by and large are in line with it.

Rather than focus on these things, it's hyperbole and the end of the world. But you know what it's fans being fans and it's the same everywhere whatever shape and form it may take. What can you do.
We offered Fridge and Smith $500k because we had the lowest paid HC in all of the BCS conferences.
 
Myth: Rutgers is cheap when it comes to athletics. Rutgers economizes and pinches pennies on sports.

Truth: Rutgers spends more of the university general funds on athletics than any other FBS school, bar none. This is known to many as "The Subsidy". Rutgers has the largest by a wide margin. Rutgers is the opposite of cheap when it comes to athletics. What we don't have is a reliable base of large donors. Rutgers is not cheap. Rutgers' fans are cheap.
First of all 98% of colleges have subsidies for their athletics. Alot of FCS schools the subsidy is a greater percentage. Spending? PSU spends 50% more on athletics than RU. Your conclusion is far from the truth.
Edit: NJ is cheap and doesn't give a crap about public education from K to College
That subsidy directly represents the lack of educational support NOT received by our crappy state government.
 
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We offered Fridge and Smith $500k because we had the lowest paid HC in all of the BCS conferences.
If we had the lowest paid HC it's because he deserved to be. There was nothing in his background that made him worthy of getting more. We were willing to pay Cristobal 1.3M. So like I say, if the "coaching acumen/record" calls for it, I see us paying up for it. If it doesn't why would we waste money that doesn't have to be spent just because? We're not Texas where we can just throw away dollars without thinking. 5M for Strong, who cares if he's worth or deserves it, they're Texas. We have to care and be smart with our use of resources.

We're paying Flood more now and if Fridge decided to stay we'd be paying his salary and Flood's increased salary/buyout.
 
It takes far more time to build something than to destroy something.

Building a program, like Schiano did, is the outcome of many purposeful interactions over many years. Schiano clearly had a blueprint in mind to guide the many steps he took to build the program.

Destroying a program, like blowing up a building, can happen rather quickly. Those of you who think the destruction can be fixed simply by money are wrong.

Under Schiano there was clarity around a shared purpose and clarity around values. The purpose and values that Schiano left are fading fast and once destroyed will have to be rebuilt. That sort of rebuilding takes more than money.
 
If we had the lowest paid HC because he deserved to be. There was nothing in his background that made him worthy of getting more. We were willing to pay Cristobal 1.3M. So like I say if the "coaching acumen/record" calls for it, I see us paying up for it. If it doesn't why would we waste money that doesn't have to be spent just because? We're not Texas where we can just throw away dollars without thinking. 5M for Strong, who cares if he's worth or deserves it, they're Texas. We have to care and be smart with our use of resources.
I'm not saying Flood deserved more. I'm saying that Rutgers isn't moving forward because they offered coordinators 500k. That was not a sign of Rutgers willing to spend. They spent that much because it fit in the budget. It fit the budget because Rutgers went cheap on its head coach.
 
Flood was hired because Cristbel changed his mind at the 24 th hour and Addazzio insisted on bringing his entire staff ( probably should have said ok), w only a few days left before signing day, there were few options if Pernetti wanted to save the highly rated recruiting class.
 
Flood was hired because Cristbel changed his mind at the 24 th hour and Addazzio insisted on bringing his entire staff ( probably should have said ok), w only a few days left before signing day, there were few options if Pernetti wanted to save the highly rated recruiting class.
I am willing to bet, excuse my memory, that they were not willing to pay what Schiano was getting hence those two were being considered.
 
I'm not saying Flood deserved more. I'm saying that Rutgers isn't moving forward because they offered coordinators 500k. That was not a sign of Rutgers willing to spend. They spent that much because it fit in the budget. It fit the budget because Rutgers went cheap on its head coach.
Flood got a salary increase and we had Fridge all at the same time last year. If Fridge stuck around we'd be paying Flood's salary increase and Fridge's salary this year as well.

Put it this way if we pay 1.5-2.5M for a HC, who deserves that salary and 400-500K for coordinators who deserve that salary and a reasonable salary for the rest of the staff, I'm fine with it.

Also how about some of the support staff for recruiting like Barthel. Have we had that before, not that I can recall but I'm not sure. If not, again another sign of added support and increased spending on the program. It's a little thing here, a little thing there, a sign here a sign there and you look at everything in totality and I feel things are moving in the right direction and again without B10 money yet.
 
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First of all 98% of colleges have subsidies for their athletics. Alot of FCS schools the subsidy is a greater percentage. Spending? PSU spends 50% more on athletics than RU. Your conclusion is far from the truth.
Edit: NJ is cheap and doesn't give a crap about public education from K to College
That subsidy directly represents the lack of educational support NOT received by our crappy state government.


I never said I was against the subsidy / against Rutgers spending what we do on athletics. Far from it.
What I'm saying is that it's BS to complain about Rutgers being cheap when it comes to athletics. The largest subsidy in the FBS is clear evidence that Rutgers has been and is investing in athletics on a scale larger than our peers. It's large donors that we lack compared to our peers.

And as an aside, since you mention it - I agree that NJ doesn't support higher ed. and it's shameful. (NJ does spend lots on K-12).
However, the subsidy is not related to the lack of state support in any way.
 
CBS Sports, Yahoo Sports, ESPN, and all other sports reporters have already called this a disaster from moment one of the Flood scandal to the bizarre Norries Wison press conference. Now BTN's Gerry Dinardo has weighed in with a warning that this is a crisis at Rutgers of such magnitude that the program could crumble quickly and much faster than it took to build. He emphasized that unless the university, not just the football program, gets its act together, everything that Schiano built may be lost. Does the administration understand how bad it is? Does the administration realize that this is a university crisis that is spinning out of control? Does the administration realize how inept Rutgers looks to every outside observer? Do Barchi and company understand what is at stake? Will the Big Ten leadership endure this embarrassment again and again? Is Rutgers about to fall into the abyss?

I'm afraid that Bogdanovich, devoted2RU, Zapaaa and others are 100% right. Our joyous ascendency into the B1G has crumbled into a worst case scenario and the respectability that Schiano brought us has all but disappeared in an alarmingly short amount of time. Those who say, in effect, it's not so bad, we'll get through this, are just plain wrong, or delusional, or, as others posted, too young to remember the bad old days, before Schiano. RU was indeed lucky that he took over a laughable program in the first place. Sure, many other programs have had players of dubious character (this seems to be the price of going big time) or have had scandals in recruiting or academic support, but this convergence of very bad events in a virtually concurrent time frame is, to the best of my knowledge, unprecedented in college football (somebody correct me if I am wrong, by coming up with an example), but so many major messes all happening at once seems to be a first, and no, I am not forgetting the Penn State story, or the older SMU scandal. The RU FB program is an embarrassment to the conference and I am sure they hugely regret inviting RU. I don't know what the legalities in RU's membership agreement are, but I would not be surprised if the league imposes performance standards on the program, with expulsion being the long term risk and penalty for not meeting those sanctions. Which brings me to the most important point, that I, and many others, are making: Flood (and eventually his staff) truly has to go. Can the adminsitration see that?

I am certain that the university attorneys advised Barchi and the BOG and athletic administration that Flood's transgression with Barnwell's dance course, by itself, was insufficient cause for dismissal (or, it was strictly a fiscal decision, or both factors), but it seems to me that this was an opportunity missed to dismiss him. He was just a guy that got lucky and was appointed HC by default, happenstance and timing, but he's been in over his head from day one, in every way. Employing bargain basement coaches at RU in football and MBB typically has backfired significantly, although the Flood regime tops them all by orders of magnitude. Almost makes you wish for naked free throw shooting or FHJ's antics at a baseball game. THE ONLY THING THAT CAN RESCUE THE FB PROGRAM IN THE SHORT TERM IS IF ALUMNI COME UP WITH A WAY TO ENDOW A DECENT HEAD COACH AND HIRE HIM AS QUICKLY AS CIRCUMSTANCES PERMIT. Sure, I fantasize about Greg coming back, but it's not going to happen, absent a small miracle. Otherwise, it's going to be a painful slide into pre-Schiano incompetence and national irrelevancy. Almost makes me long for the CL days--Columbia, Cornell. Colgate, Lehigh and Lafayette.
 
Flood got a salary increase and we had Fridge all at the same time last year. If Fridge stuck around we'd be paying Flood's salary increase and Fridge's salary this year as well.

Put it this way if we pay 1.5-2.5M for HC, who deserves that salary and 400-500K for coordinators who deserve that salary and reasonable salary for the rest of the staff, I'm fine with it.

Also how about some of the support staff for recruiting like Barthel. Have we had that before, not that I can recall but I'm not sure. If not, again another sign of added support and increased spending on the program. It's a little thing here, a little thing there, a sign here a sign there and you look at everything in totality and I feel things are moving in the right direction and again without B10 money yet.
ummm You do know that Flood's extension came from Towers and not the school?
 
The take away for Barchi should be:
-We tried a cheap, transititional coach to see if he could grow into the job as we tried to get revenue neutral sooner for sports
-That didn't work and now we have to hire an experienced coaching staff that is highly competent in running an organization; one that adds value to Rutgers.
 
Yes, we need to go back and play Cornell and Colgate again. All is doomed
 
Flood got a salary increase and we had Fridge all at the same time last year. If Fridge stuck around we'd be paying Flood's salary increase and Fridge's salary this year as well.

Put it this way if we pay 1.5-2.5M for a HC, who deserves that salary and 400-500K for coordinators who deserve that salary and a reasonable salary for the rest of the staff, I'm fine with it.

Also how about some of the support staff for recruiting like Barthel. Have we had that before, not that I can recall but I'm not sure. If not, again another sign of added support and increased spending on the program. It's a little thing here, a little thing there, a sign here a sign there and you look at everything in totality and I feel things are moving in the right direction and again without B10 money yet.
It's beyond belief to me you think things are moving in the right direction. but ok...maybe I'm crazy.
 
ummm You do know that Flood's extension came from Towers and not the school?
Yes I do (if you haven't noticed I said that) and does it matter how it's being paid as long as it's being paid. The point is to be able to pay it whether it's from private resources (which is actually the preferred and usual route at most schools) or from the athletic budget. The point is getting the job done, not well it didn't come from the schools so it doesn't count.

If Fridge's salary comes from private or school does it matter? Smith's offer? Pritzlaff on wrestling? Basketball staff offer? Barthel's salary? Why do we care where it comes from as long as it happens? Getting it from private sources is all the better frankly.
 
I never said I was against the subsidy / against Rutgers spending what we do on athletics. Far from it.
What I'm saying is that it's BS to complain about Rutgers being cheap when it comes to athletics. The largest subsidy in the FBS is clear evidence that Rutgers has been and is investing in athletics on a scale larger than our peers. It's large donors that we lack compared to our peers.

And as an aside, since you mention it - I agree that NJ doesn't support higher ed. and it's shameful. (NJ does spend lots on K-12).
However, the subsidy is not related to the lack of state support in any way.
Sorry, have to disagree. If RU had more money in it's general budget it could allocate more money to RU athletics. Yes an increased budget from Trenton would help with this. You are correct that more alumni support would greatly help. The question is how to get alums more involved? The answer, from my perspective is, Success on the football field and the basketball court. Also success in academic ratings and breakthroughs in medicine and engineering. Add in a couple of SCOTUS appointments would be nice. It is a circular dilemma. We need more money for everything!
 
It's beyond belief to me you think things are moving in the right direction. but ok...maybe I'm crazy.
You guys just say these things but I cite concretes examples. You just get wrapped up in the media hype. Rebut all the points I made about the things I said give me the impression things are moving in the right direction. I'm more than willing to listen. I don't rant about like most.
 
CBS Sports, Yahoo Sports, ESPN, and all other sports reporters have already called this a disaster from moment one of the Flood scandal to the bizarre Norries Wison press conference. Now BTN's Gerry Dinardo has weighed in with a warning that this is a crisis at Rutgers of such magnitude that the program could crumble quickly and much faster than it took to build. He emphasized that unless the university, not just the football program, gets its act together, everything that Schiano built may be lost. Does the administration understand how bad it is? Does the administration realize that this is a university crisis that is spinning out of control? Does the administration realize how inept Rutgers looks to every outside observer? Do Barchi and company understand what is at stake? Will the Big Ten leadership endure this embarrassment again and again? Is Rutgers about to fall into the abyss?
Wow. Are they going to tear down the Hale Center improvements. Take down the stadium expansion? Move us back to the AAC? Go back to the old lack of branding?

No. All of those buildings will still stand. The Big Ten isnt kicking us out. The fan experience

And thus what Schiano has built still stands. The rest is noise. Physical infrastructure is the hard part. Creating a brand is hard. Players come and go within 5 years. Coaches come and go all the time.

Sorry - PSU is three years out from having been outted for having a rapist and they are back to form more or less. We arent PSU - but then again, a few player arrests and a stupid coaching administrative thing arent the entire administration ignoring a rapist either.

Fire Flood at the end of the season, hire a new coach for real money and move on. Its the losing thats the scandal. If we were 3-0 no one would care about the rest.
 
We're a dropped/tipped interception from being 2-1, including winning a game by 50, despite playing 7 fresh-out-of senior prom kids in the secondary, having the 2 best DL injured, our #1 RB with no knees left and our #1 WR out and a new QB, and no HC on game day. A bunch of bad stuff happened, we won't have the best season. But it's not doomsday. See: Michigan last year, Arky this year. Teams cycle, look at Florida, when were they last relevant? Tennessee? And TCU/Baylor came from no where now that Texas is inexcusably bad. Things cycle, we'll get back soon. It's not like we're UAB and they're announcing they're shutting down the program.
 
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