Camden - Manasquan
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Ding....Ding....Ding. I had a major issue with Camden getting involved plus the AD.
Over the last 60 years ( way before this) in the mid 60’s schools were questioned about recruiting players into their respective public schools. Mind you not Parochials but public institutions. How do I know this… a little bird told me. Essex County had several schools and even famous coaches who were suspected of what would be called tampering or bringing players in.
I don't think people are arguing that lol it's clear everybody is acting like there's a way to change what happened and it's not they have to let it go.
So that ref didn't call it good, live on court, (didn't signal anything) but did change the other guys call, who said he was 99% certain when he made the call.
Gotcha
Guy deserves to be hit by a bus
Agree. Only option was for Camden to turn the win over. But it's Camden so not happening.
Lack of accountability and integrity is a US standard these days. These are supposedly adults who should be better in the decisions they make especially on the playing fields. I can’t wait until Rutgers gets a screw job in a game we should be declared the winner. Guess we forgot RU vs Ohio State 2 years ago? This board would meltdown real quick. I hope it’s not this season.
Oh please. It has never happened. Find one example.
We wanted that game to be reversed
as well. Guess what? It wasn't. It never does.
In all due respect Old Man Hurley thinks they should have a jump ball after each basket.
Please....this wasn't a charge vs. blocking call or who last touched the ball before it went out of bounds call. The shot clearly left the guy's hand before time expired. And I don't know what the trailing official Kevin Torres saw that would make him think otherwise, let alone convince his partner Jerome Starr to change his call....and the outcome of the game.
I would argue he knows more about integrity, honor and what's just than the "experts" who post on this board. Myself included.
I will trust my source in the coaching community and what others posted here on this board over a copy paste job you pulled form the Manasquan website !
No one has forgotten that ripoff. And there's no reason they didn't correct their error in that one either.
It's a high school basketball game where an official made less than $100 bucks most likely (plus a small fee to cover his travel, if he's far enough away) and now will have many sleepless nights thinking about how badly he screwed up. Wishing death upon him is pretty F'ing pathetic.
And we wonder why there is a huge officiating shortage...
Bob Hurley was the best high school basketball coach ever.
And ranks pretty high as a human being as well.
He's human and he made a bad call...I'm sure I'll make some bad calls on the baseball fields this summer, but I'm hoping they don't impact a game (and especially a game this visible). This is every official's worst nightmare.
They accept students from non-sending district towns by paying tuition. So it's legal for outside students to come in. And if the family owns a home in district, even better. Tell your coaching community friends to stop crying and coach better!!
Not only did he make a bad call...he convinced his partner who had made the correct call to change it. Thus handing a win to the actual losing team and ending the season for what in reality was the winning team.
Yeah...we need more refs like that.
Much different than what transpired the other evening. Besides at Rutgers we almost expect the call to go against us. What is unacceptable is Kevin ( was it Walls) making the epic change up from good to no good . I always expect the courts to rule with the state in a case like this . For the clown bringing up Manasquan in another game past it is unrelated … not relevant. In that game the referee wasn’t a former player at the winning school. Just a little fact. Trust this also those Squan players were deflated but I would bet most would claim their lives will go on.
Won’t have the impact that this call had on a team.You are as bad as ( Kevin) him. Excusing is fine in your mind. ? that of sounds sad.
Those were 3 highly respected officials that blew the call the other night (granted I'm making an assumption, but you don't get a state semi without being pretty darn good)...they make one terrible call, and many feel that means that should be barred for life from officiating, or others think it's ok to try and get their names and make them public (before they were released).
There are also plenty of good officials that quit because they are sick of dealing with the fans/coaches, or guys that start out and could become really good, but also feel it's not worth it. I gave up assigning because I couldn't provide quality umpires anymore after so many of the good ones threw in the towel/aged out, and many that were left were more the guys interested in the $ over everything else.
Again, Big Ten basketball officials are some of the best in the world, yet most fans seem to think they suck.
...this video looked like the best angle in terms of seeing the clock and the shot at the same time. If the scoreboard clock was official, this is beyond a terrible call, especially since the final call happened like 30 seconds later overruling the original call without any type of video review.
Joe P.
His partner asked him for help...if his partner sticks with the call, this never happens. It's easy to be 100% sure what you see with video, several angles, etc. Calling it in real time isn't quite as easy unfortunately.
Are you really getting sucked into a conspiracy theory that somehow one of the refs was a former player?
Haddonfield does this is well. Part of the reason they are usually very good at all sports.
If this 'reversal call' happened in realtime (they called it as 'no good' even though there was still a bit of time left) it would be a 'wrong call' but not egregious since it would be a 'on the spot' call. The one official seemingly overturned it like 30 seconds later and there wasn't a consensus (I've seen this coaching football; crews will not go against the senior official even if they don't agree with the call).
Joe P.
Name one HS in New Jersey who would give the game back that they won because of something that’s wasn’t their fault?
