COVID-19 Pandemic: Transmissions, Deaths, Treatments, Vaccines, Interventions and More...
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@Proud NJ Sports Fan and @JayRU09 please let's stop the partisan bickering and keep this thread on track for providing news for this board community to follow. Thank you.
Why point me out????
I've been calling for non partisan posts to Jay
Don't lump me in with him please.
Cleveland Clinic’s new coronavirus testing capabilities will deliver results within hours
https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/03...pabilities-will-deliver-results-within-hours/
https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/03...pabilities-will-deliver-results-within-hours/
That's nice, but Germany, South Korea and other countries have had comparable technology in place for 6 weeks.
At least we have it now. Here's something else out of the UK that talks about CT scans of the lungs as a possible early diagnostic tool as well.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/coronavirus-x-rays-show-terrifying-21672219
Yep, cool stuff - posted about that last week, but there's so much to keep up with. UK is also working on an instant test and expects it to be out in 3-4 weeks - the Holy Grail would be something like that that one could use at home (so zero risk of going out to get tested). One could imagine tests like these being used for large public gatherings. Posted that on the hoops board I think (been posting so much my brain is mush)...
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...t-scientists-warm-summer-boris-johnson-latest
Sadly this is true.
The precautionary measures that should have been taken were dramatically diminished due to Health Department(s) cutbacks and a total lack of acknowledgment / denial of the crisis.
Speaking of Italy, someone asked in another thread if anyone knew someone who contacted the virus. Well, my wife's best friends daughter lives in Italy and her father-in-law who has lived his whole life in Milan was healthy but in his 70's contacted the virus and was dead in a few days.
There have been suspicions that Iran and Italy have a more deadly variety of Corona . I was reading about those suspicions the same week a lady with Corona flew from Iran to NYC. Cuomo said it was all cool because "she didn't use the subways".
The Chinese identified two variants with once considered more communicable. That observation was confirmed by others. A deadlier strain hasn't been clinically confirmed but the Iranian and Italian outbreaks were so deadly there have been experts concerned they were seeing a more deadly CV. In Iran, people have to be buried with 24 hrs and cemeteries were being described as overwhelmed
Coronavirus: Are there two strains and is one more deadly?
https://www.newscientist.com/articl...are-there-two-strains-and-is-one-more-deadly/
I guess if your an Iranian you cant come to US. But if your an Americaan in Iran you can travel back
Coronavirus in N.Y.: Manhattan Woman Is First Confirmed Case in State
A woman in her 30s who had traveled in Iran contracted the virus and is now isolated at home.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/01/nyregion/new-york-coronvirus-confirmed.html
Trump exposed to coronavirus-positive Brazilian government spokesman last weekend; he's pictured standing next to him below. Not good.
Key now is to stop introducing new cases into the country from elsewhere
Stop community spread within the country.
Get widespread testing done.
Widespread testing?
US = Venezuela of testing
CDC tested only 77 people this week; coronavirus testing slow around the nation
https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-tested-o...r8z6H4hrRH857TbVLiBDHEAqmZKRZk0Xnqr5EzzHeQd32
Are there any doctors on this board ? Or other medical professionals ? Would love to hear from them
CDC says there flu deaths that are posthumously testing positive for coronavirus. This means it's been circulating for longer than anyone thought, which is not surprising.
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-...0-intl-hnk/h_1319f66f92245a2fe4ec63fe91ab66c9
This dovetails with the revelations from Dr. Chu and the group out in Seattle, who I posted about yesterday. These folks had an ongoing flu study and asked CDC permission to analyze retained samples for the coronavirus in late Jan and were told no. After appealing multiple times (need permission, ethically to test those samples in a non-approved test), Dr. Chu and colleauges, said eff this, it's the right thing to go ahead and test and they found that samples from weeks earlier were positive for coronavirus, meaning it had been circulating for weeks unknown to anyone and could've been known. Even after getting the positive tests, the CDC response was to bury the info and not share it publicly. Dr. Chu ignored that also, bravely, and because of that people became aware of how widespread the virus was in the Seattle area.
We could've known about the outbreak in the Seattle area weeks before we actually found out. Let that sink in if you think the CDC and our government are "doing a great job" on this. Dr. Chu migiht get my vote for woman of the year...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/...tion=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-...0-intl-hnk/h_1319f66f92245a2fe4ec63fe91ab66c9
This dovetails with the revelations from Dr. Chu and the group out in Seattle, who I posted about yesterday. These folks had an ongoing flu study and asked CDC permission to analyze retained samples for the coronavirus in late Jan and were told no. After appealing multiple times (need permission, ethically to test those samples in a non-approved test), Dr. Chu and colleauges, said eff this, it's the right thing to go ahead and test and they found that samples from weeks earlier were positive for coronavirus, meaning it had been circulating for weeks unknown to anyone and could've been known. Even after getting the positive tests, the CDC response was to bury the info and not share it publicly. Dr. Chu ignored that also, bravely, and because of that people became aware of how widespread the virus was in the Seattle area.
We could've known about the outbreak in the Seattle area weeks before we actually found out. Let that sink in if you think the CDC and our government are "doing a great job" on this. Dr. Chu migiht get my vote for woman of the year...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/...tion=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article
At this time, the Democrats have put out a bill that includes; increased unemployment insurance benefits; expanded family and medical leave and free testing for the uninsured.
The Republicans are balking at certain provisions and are due to fly out of DC tonight for a recess. Trump seems to be against it as well.
If this does not get done today or the Republicans don't stay and continue to negotiate, the proverbial may hit the fan. Fortunately, Steven Mnuchin and Nancy Pelosi are putting politics aside and are negotiating.
We shall see what happens.
The Republicans are balking at certain provisions and are due to fly out of DC tonight for a recess. Trump seems to be against it as well.
If this does not get done today or the Republicans don't stay and continue to negotiate, the proverbial may hit the fan. Fortunately, Steven Mnuchin and Nancy Pelosi are putting politics aside and are negotiating.
We shall see what happens.
Not so far, just amateurs and their opinions.
Would really like to hear from infectious disease physicians
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And Canadian President Trudeau now in isolation...
https://globalnews.ca/news/6666482/justin-trudeau-self-isolation-coronavirus/
https://globalnews.ca/news/6666482/justin-trudeau-self-isolation-coronavirus/
What are you interesting in hearing? There are a few MDs who post in this thread. Just a PhD in chem eng'g here, although with 30+ years of working with new drugs under development in R&D, including antibiotics and vaccines, meaning I've worked with countless MDs over the years on topics like infections, transmission rates, transmission vectors, and epidemiology.
Iranian burial pits just 2 days after first announced case
Iran’s coronavirus burial pits are so vast they’re visible from space
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/12/coronavirus-live-updates/
MORE PICS
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/iran-coronavirus-outbreak-graves/
Different treatment for Corona dead
Bodies 'pile up' in morgue as Iran feels strain of coronavirus
https://www.fox10tv.com/news/corona...cle_520038c8-f4c9-51a9-a601-873585f973a6.html
Iran’s coronavirus burial pits are so vast they’re visible from space
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/12/coronavirus-live-updates/
MORE PICS
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/iran-coronavirus-outbreak-graves/
Different treatment for Corona dead
Bodies 'pile up' in morgue as Iran feels strain of coronavirus
https://www.fox10tv.com/news/corona...cle_520038c8-f4c9-51a9-a601-873585f973a6.html
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Just spoke to my Dad in southern Italy, he's doing fine and knows of only two cases in a nearby town, but those were people who came from Milan.
Great podcast on Covid-19 from Atlantic Magazine.
https://www.theatlantic.com/podcast...tent=20200312&silverid-ref=MzQ2MzUyMTI1MDA5S0
https://www.theatlantic.com/podcast...tent=20200312&silverid-ref=MzQ2MzUyMTI1MDA5S0
put a sock in it jay, do you really think any sensible person would believe the crap you re spewing,. another pissed off bernie guy
again.. you guys keep making it political.. it isn't. Both sides had people telling Trump stopping flights from China was a bit much early on.. BOTH SIDES.
Was more of a Pete guy, but what crap am I spewing?
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/...ef-holds-firm-on-cdc-cuts-amid-virus-outbreak
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/politics/gaetz-coronavirus-gas-mask/index.html
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/09/8137...lf-quarantine-after-cpac-coronavirus-exposure
I can direct you to the nearest burn center if need be.
I tried to summarize all my thoughts in a post late Tuesday night (link below - it's long, lol), but the bottom line for me is that if we did nothing, which some people are advocating, we'd likely have 5-10X more deaths than from the flu (150-600K instead of the 30-60K we see from the flu, given the 5-10X greater "true" mortality rate) and we'd have most of them (and serious infections requiring hospitalizations) occurring in a very short period, given the much greater transmission rate than flu, overwhelming our systems. That's why governments are working so hard to contain this.
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...ing-ugly-good-luck.191275/page-7#post-4442323
FAQs for Hackensack Meridian Health’s Center for Discovery and Innovation’s
Rapid Response Coronavirus Test
1. How does the new test speed up the process of diagnosing COVID-19?
Following clinical evaluation of a patient, physicians at Hackensack Meridian Health can
obtain a highly reliable result in hours. If it’s positive, the isolated patient is treated
immediately. If it’s negative, the patient avoids unnecessary time in isolation and the
hospital. The current process involves consulting with the state Department of Health
and sending test results to the state lab in central New Jersey. This process can take a
day or two because the facility is processing all suspected cases in the state. Network
experts would still notify the state as well as the CDC of positive results, but the
notification won’t impact treatment decisions.
2. When will the test be in use in your health network?
The CDI has obtained an Emergency Use Authorization from the Food and Drug
Administration to use the test. This fast-track system is used to approve new drugs or
new indications for previously approved drugs or devices during an emergency. For
example, the FDA issued Emergency Use Authorizations to make available diagnostic
and therapeutic tools to identify and respond to the 2009 swing flu outbreak.
The New Jersey Department of Health also approved the test. Last week, CDI
researchers received live virus and viral RNA – a major step toward validating the test.
The dated and is now in limited use at Hackensack Meridian Health hospitals.
3. Who can get tested?
The testing will be available on a limited basis at first: The priority will be patients at
Hackensack Meridian Health hospitals who are experiencing severe symptoms. There
are clinical criteria which the CDC has established, which the network adheres to.
Experts expect to test 24 patients every eight hours during the initial phase of testing at
the network.
What we don’t want is a lot of patients showing up to be tested because they don’t feel
well. Patients experiencing symptoms that may include fever, cough and/or shortness of
breath should contact their physicians. The CDC believes that symptoms may appear in
as few as two days or as long as 14 days after exposure.
4. Why is it so important for Hackensack Meridian Health to do its own testing?
As New Jersey’s largest and most comprehensive health network with 17 hospitals and
more than 500 patient care locations, it’s important to have accurate and rapid testing
because it really becomes a triage tool. It not only benefits patients; it helps the entire
health care team assess how to best manage patients. Is the patient going into
isolation? Who have they had contact with? We want to have more control over what’s
happening to patients in our network.
Additionally, by having our own test we will ease the burden of the New Jersey State
Department of Health lab which is currently doing all of the testing in New Jersey.
5. How does this test compare to the CDC test?
The CDC test is a good test but it’s not perfect. We learned that a very prominent
research group in Germany had developed a test, which was ultimately approved by the
World Health Organization. We then married some elements of both tests to produce
what we believe is a highly reliable test – and one that will yield results on site and
faster.
The CDC kits sent out nationwide in February included a faulty component. However,
the agency has enhanced testing capability. On March 9, the CDC announced that it now
has the testing capacity in 78 states and local health labs across all 50 states to test for
the coronavirus. There are now 75,000 lab kits cumulatively to gest for COVID-19 with
more coming, the CDC said.
6. Will Hackensack Meridian Health share the test with other networks and hospitals?
Beyond this preliminary stage, our goal is to capitalize on the technology and find ways
to expand its use throughout the region and across the nation.
Rapid Response Coronavirus Test
1. How does the new test speed up the process of diagnosing COVID-19?
Following clinical evaluation of a patient, physicians at Hackensack Meridian Health can
obtain a highly reliable result in hours. If it’s positive, the isolated patient is treated
immediately. If it’s negative, the patient avoids unnecessary time in isolation and the
hospital. The current process involves consulting with the state Department of Health
and sending test results to the state lab in central New Jersey. This process can take a
day or two because the facility is processing all suspected cases in the state. Network
experts would still notify the state as well as the CDC of positive results, but the
notification won’t impact treatment decisions.
2. When will the test be in use in your health network?
The CDI has obtained an Emergency Use Authorization from the Food and Drug
Administration to use the test. This fast-track system is used to approve new drugs or
new indications for previously approved drugs or devices during an emergency. For
example, the FDA issued Emergency Use Authorizations to make available diagnostic
and therapeutic tools to identify and respond to the 2009 swing flu outbreak.
The New Jersey Department of Health also approved the test. Last week, CDI
researchers received live virus and viral RNA – a major step toward validating the test.
The dated and is now in limited use at Hackensack Meridian Health hospitals.
3. Who can get tested?
The testing will be available on a limited basis at first: The priority will be patients at
Hackensack Meridian Health hospitals who are experiencing severe symptoms. There
are clinical criteria which the CDC has established, which the network adheres to.
Experts expect to test 24 patients every eight hours during the initial phase of testing at
the network.
What we don’t want is a lot of patients showing up to be tested because they don’t feel
well. Patients experiencing symptoms that may include fever, cough and/or shortness of
breath should contact their physicians. The CDC believes that symptoms may appear in
as few as two days or as long as 14 days after exposure.
4. Why is it so important for Hackensack Meridian Health to do its own testing?
As New Jersey’s largest and most comprehensive health network with 17 hospitals and
more than 500 patient care locations, it’s important to have accurate and rapid testing
because it really becomes a triage tool. It not only benefits patients; it helps the entire
health care team assess how to best manage patients. Is the patient going into
isolation? Who have they had contact with? We want to have more control over what’s
happening to patients in our network.
Additionally, by having our own test we will ease the burden of the New Jersey State
Department of Health lab which is currently doing all of the testing in New Jersey.
5. How does this test compare to the CDC test?
The CDC test is a good test but it’s not perfect. We learned that a very prominent
research group in Germany had developed a test, which was ultimately approved by the
World Health Organization. We then married some elements of both tests to produce
what we believe is a highly reliable test – and one that will yield results on site and
faster.
The CDC kits sent out nationwide in February included a faulty component. However,
the agency has enhanced testing capability. On March 9, the CDC announced that it now
has the testing capacity in 78 states and local health labs across all 50 states to test for
the coronavirus. There are now 75,000 lab kits cumulatively to gest for COVID-19 with
more coming, the CDC said.
6. Will Hackensack Meridian Health share the test with other networks and hospitals?
Beyond this preliminary stage, our goal is to capitalize on the technology and find ways
to expand its use throughout the region and across the nation.
Here I am. And I've already said that our meteorology friend numbers has given you very accurate information.
The only part that he's missing is the implementation part and dealing with real life people who have all kinds of anxieties. You would be amazed when I try to get a nasopharyngeal specimen from somebody the screaming goes on. Then I have the people who have some weird morbid thing going on about taking selfies with their masks on in the exam room. Do you have a fever and the answer is always I definitely had a fever last night but don't have a thermometer. Are you short of breath and the answer is yes I'm short of breath despite them having a normal pulse ox and respiratory rate. And are you coughing ?promptsa fit of coughing. Our population is not an easy one to deal with when it comes to pandemic. Unfortunately it's always the sick ones who don't speak up and seek help until it is too late. Historically we always have a minority of consumers using a majority of medical services.
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