http://espn.go.com/college-football...lor-bears-easiest-2016-nonconference-schedule
we made the list... as UMD's sole big 10 win last year.
we made the list... as UMD's sole big 10 win last year.
"cupcake war" - ESPN ranks the worst OOC schedules
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We didnt make the list. We were mentioned under UMDs explaination for being on the list.
Its a stupid list because the Big 10 East is no joke.
Why arent they going after the SEC teams that schedule north chatanooga community college.. etc. It seems that they have a double standard. SEC teams are allowed to have a joke OOC schedule because theyee so good but other conberences cant?
ESPN bias at it.
Its a stupid list because the Big 10 East is no joke.
Why arent they going after the SEC teams that schedule north chatanooga community college.. etc. It seems that they have a double standard. SEC teams are allowed to have a joke OOC schedule because theyee so good but other conberences cant?
ESPN bias at it.
Which is worse? Being on the list as having cupcakes or being the cupcake?
They also said that Washington's toughest game may be Portland State......
Why we are listed is a question it self. The list is for out of conference schedules. The retard writer then goes on to list conference teams.
Either do an overall schedule ranking or just OOC. Dont do one and list the other only when it benefits your argument.
Agree: the ESPN SEC "bias" will always come into play
Disagree: he is calling us a "cupcake," see: Washington, and it's hard for right now, coming off of last year, to argue.
All aware this is a perfect example of Off season SEC bias and B10 bashing. It is no accident that they named 4 big ten schools. and the cheap shots to say Portland State as their toughest game another shot at RU and the B10 these guys are almost as slick as the scum writers who post here under their alias! the only difference is ESPN do not hide their disesteem where the cowardly writers fearful hide like little girls behind their mom skirts by using multiple alias names.
SEC teams have 4 OOC games as opposed to many conferences having 3. They seem to schedule 1 tough game and 3 incredible cup cakes, but it gives them cover from criticism. For example Auburn has Clemson, but also has Arkansas St, LA Monroe and Alabama A&M.
We are on the list for WASHINGTON, they are not in our conference last time I checked, lol!
good question...We are sadly considered cupcakes (Thanks Flood) until proven otherwise (Hello Ash).
First, it must be considered that conferences such as the B1G and the Pac 12 will play a nine-game conference schedule this season, so they're already one up on the SEC as far as scheduling Power 5 opponents. And many of these teams will be playing another Power 5 team in their three-game OOC schedule. So if the SEC schedules one Power 5 opponent OOC, which most of them do, they'll be playing at best the same number of Power 5 schools as the other conferences play and in several cases fewer such games.
And yes, the SEC has some nice OOC games schedules such as Fla.-Fla. State, Ga.-North Carolina, South Carolina-Clemson, Alabama-USC, Auburn-Clemson, Arkansas-TCU, LSU-Wisconsin and Texas A &M-UCLA.
Having said that, here are some of the SEC's other opponents for 2016:
Florida — UMass, North Texas and Presbyterian
Georgia — North Carolina, Nicholls State, Louisiana and Ga. Tech
Kentucky — Southern Miss., New Mexico, Austin Peay and Louisville
Missouri — West Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Delaware State and Middle Tennessee
South Carolina — East Carolina, UMass and Western Carolina
Tennessee — Appalachian State, Ohio U., Virginia Tech and Tennessee Tech
Vanderbilt — Middle Tennessee, Georgia Tech, Western Kentucky and Tennessee State
Alabama — Western Kentucky, Kent State and Chattanooga
Arkansas — Louisiana Tech, Texas State and Alcorn State
Auburn — Arkansas State, Louisiana-Monroe and Alabama A&M
LSU — Jacksonville State, Southern Miss. and South Alabama
Mississippi State — South Alabama, UMass, BYU and Samford
Ole Miss — Florida State, Wofford, Memphis and Georgia Southern
Texas A&M — Prairie View, New Mexico State, Texas-San Antonio
Looks to me like the SEC teams, once they get away from their one feature OOC game, play about as many cupcakes as anybody else does. The Alabama OOC schedule outside of USC is really cupcake city for a team of that caliber.
Looks as if UMass is looking for a few big paydays and some big poundings this season. Clemson of the ACC probably should get some props for playing both Auburn and South Carolina out of conference.
And yes, the SEC has some nice OOC games schedules such as Fla.-Fla. State, Ga.-North Carolina, South Carolina-Clemson, Alabama-USC, Auburn-Clemson, Arkansas-TCU, LSU-Wisconsin and Texas A &M-UCLA.
Having said that, here are some of the SEC's other opponents for 2016:
Florida — UMass, North Texas and Presbyterian
Georgia — North Carolina, Nicholls State, Louisiana and Ga. Tech
Kentucky — Southern Miss., New Mexico, Austin Peay and Louisville
Missouri — West Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Delaware State and Middle Tennessee
South Carolina — East Carolina, UMass and Western Carolina
Tennessee — Appalachian State, Ohio U., Virginia Tech and Tennessee Tech
Vanderbilt — Middle Tennessee, Georgia Tech, Western Kentucky and Tennessee State
Alabama — Western Kentucky, Kent State and Chattanooga
Arkansas — Louisiana Tech, Texas State and Alcorn State
Auburn — Arkansas State, Louisiana-Monroe and Alabama A&M
LSU — Jacksonville State, Southern Miss. and South Alabama
Mississippi State — South Alabama, UMass, BYU and Samford
Ole Miss — Florida State, Wofford, Memphis and Georgia Southern
Texas A&M — Prairie View, New Mexico State, Texas-San Antonio
Looks to me like the SEC teams, once they get away from their one feature OOC game, play about as many cupcakes as anybody else does. The Alabama OOC schedule outside of USC is really cupcake city for a team of that caliber.
Looks as if UMass is looking for a few big paydays and some big poundings this season. Clemson of the ACC probably should get some props for playing both Auburn and South Carolina out of conference.
Everybody has cupcakes on their schedules. Nobody plays a full slate of Top 10 teams OOC. Everybody has one or two good teams, and one or two lousy teams.
This article was strictly looking at OOC schedules. You are comparing overall schedules.
Until we redeem ourselves of last year we are in fact the cupcakes on quite a few schedules whether we like it or not. I have full confident with the new S&C, veterans, coaching we will prove otherwise. Till then...... stay realistic.
Let me get this straight.
In 2011 we go 9-4 including a bowl win over Iowa State.
In 2012 we go 9-4 with a 3pt OT loss to Virginia Tech in a bowl.
In 2013 we go 6-7 and loss to Notre Dame in a bowl.
In 2014 we go 8-5 playing in the B1G East (with cross-over games against Nerbraska and Wisconsin) and we smoke North Carolina in a bowl (a team that ended the regular season this year ranked 10th in the country.)
But because we go 4-8 last year we're a cupcake now? After 1 really bad year in the past 5?
Seriously?
In 2011 we go 9-4 including a bowl win over Iowa State.
In 2012 we go 9-4 with a 3pt OT loss to Virginia Tech in a bowl.
In 2013 we go 6-7 and loss to Notre Dame in a bowl.
In 2014 we go 8-5 playing in the B1G East (with cross-over games against Nerbraska and Wisconsin) and we smoke North Carolina in a bowl (a team that ended the regular season this year ranked 10th in the country.)
But because we go 4-8 last year we're a cupcake now? After 1 really bad year in the past 5?
Seriously?
Riddle me this:
1) how many FBS teams with winning records did we win the last 4 seasons?
2) how many ranked teams did we beat the last 4 seasons?
...so, right now, we get what we deserve. So what? Let's go out there, rebuild this thing - better than Schiano build it, even - and prove them all wrong.
After last season can't get mad at not being considered a good team and won't complain about a fan of a school that had a full load of cupcakes in 2015 putting his/her comment on this thread.
The way last season was for RU the Nit's 7-5 record with 8 so called cupcakes and a poorly coached RU team might have been acceptable.
Even ending the 7-6 after losing to a team that didn't really care if it won or lost might also have been acceptable, but not worth talking about to other fans.
When you have Ws handed to you on a platter and drop that platter, bragging rights diminish quickly. But if you ignore it, you can try to act like you did something [winking]
The way last season was for RU the Nit's 7-5 record with 8 so called cupcakes and a poorly coached RU team might have been acceptable.
Even ending the 7-6 after losing to a team that didn't really care if it won or lost might also have been acceptable, but not worth talking about to other fans.
When you have Ws handed to you on a platter and drop that platter, bragging rights diminish quickly. But if you ignore it, you can try to act like you did something [winking]
The writer is a moron. Of Washington's first 3 games all at home ( including Rutgers) , the most challenging opponent is Portland St.
F him.
Defeatist mentality by our fans agreeing we r a cupcake... A lot went wrong last season including losing a lot of good players to suspension....still managed to win 4 games and that doeant not make us a cupcake...u are agreeing with a writer that is ranking cupcake ooc schedules but does not have one sec team listed
Dont be brainwashed
Dont be brainwashed
How do you prove this bias?
Arizona is #9 with BYU, Grambling, and Hawaii
Mississippi State is not on the list with BYU, South Alabama, UMass, and Samford.
BYU and BYU cancel as does Grambling and Samford. Hawaii went 3-10 in one of the toughest G5 conferences while UMass (3-9) and USA (5-7) were doormats in the two weakest conferences (MAC and Sun Belt respectively). Bias confirmed.
On the contrary, I listed every OOC game the SEC is playing this year to illustrate the fact that they play as many cupcakes as any other league. I brought the overall schedule up to point out that by playing an eight-game conference schedule rather than a nine-game several of their schools will be playing even more cupcakes than schools from other leagues. I made knokw comment on the overall strength of their entire schedules.
So 1 losing season in a decade and Rutgers is now a cupcake? Right
ESpin is just trying to devalue the B1G for the next contract with BS like this. To be expected from that crew.
ESpin is just trying to devalue the B1G for the next contract with BS like this. To be expected from that crew.
Nobody was making an argument otherwise. The article was just picking out specific teams (like Baylor) and pointing out that they had weak OOC schedules. It wasn't about conferences, just individual teams. The author didn't say the SEC had better OOC schedules than the other leagues.
My exact point was your comment about 8 vs. 9 conference games. You said that with 9 conference games, that would be an extra P5 team, so schools with 8 conference games would either have fewer P5 teams, or an equal amount at best. Again, this article was only about OOC schedules, so the overall number of P5 teams a school plays is irrelevant to the author's point.
My point exactly.
Prior to last year, Rutgers had a non-losing regular season in 9 out of the past 10 years. Rutgers went to a bowl game in 9 of those 10 years.
I have no problem with someone looking at a schedule, seeing Rutgers, and thinking "that'll be a W for us". Especially after last year and especially for a team with high expectations like Washington.
But there's a big difference between expecting to get a W against Rutgers and labeling the team a "cupcake".
It just shows how difficult it is for a team to shake a long-standing, deep rooted, impression of them. And then we wonder why players from our own state would seemingly rather play just about anywhere else.
The overall number of conference teams played in this case directly impacts the number of OOC games a team plays. By including four Big Ten teams and no SEC teams in his list of OOC "cupcake" schedules, the author of the article is very obviously giving the impression that a disproportionate number of Big Ten teams are playing easy OOC schedules as opposed to the SEC. My point was that the SEC's OOC schedules, are as "cupcake" as anyone else's and in some cases even more so as they are playing three weak OOC opponents versus two for those who play a nine-game conference schedule. It's entirely valid to call out someone making a list such as this when it's based on a b.s. premise.
It's not valid at all. You just are reading too much into the author's piece. He simply picked out the schools he though had the weakest OOC schedules. If he had picked out a bunch of ACC schools, instead of Big Ten schools, you wouldn't care. It's only because you THINK he was singling out Rutgers' conference that you didn't like it.
Well, you apparently THINK you can read my mind. I just don't see how this guy can come up with a "cupcake" list where teams where teams playing two weak OOC opponents a season somehow have a more cupcake schedule than teams playing three such teams per year. I don't care if it's the ACC, B1G, Pac 12, whatever. It's a travesty that no SEC team makes the list. I think his list is weak, got it? Perfectly understandable to me. We'll agree to disagree on this.
