3 seed, talented freshman hyped up as lottery picks, bounced in the first round by an older team.
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I want to believe that, and believe he still can develop talent, but who has he developed in the last couple of years?My hope is that the fact that Pike is actually known for developing players vs Cal just lets them do their thing and relies solely on talent, will produce significantly different results
I want to believe that, and believe he still can develop talent, but who has he developed in the last couple of years?
you also don't give up 80 points in 69 possessionsRun an offense. Some sets designed to get the talent you have in positions to score. Far too much 1v1/hero ball by UK down the stretch.
Expect to do well in the regular seasonThis is why it’s a crapshoot. When you see a program like Kentucky and Kansas having issues , it sure as hell can happen to Rutgers too.
I think we are expecting too much next year . Realistic expectations should be top 5 in the BIG, a BIG semifinal appearance and win a game in the tournament.
Partially, but they got bounced in their first game in the SEC tourney also.This is why it’s a crapshoot. When you see a program like Kentucky and Kansas having issues , it sure as hell can happen to Rutgers too.
I think we are expecting too much next year . Realistic expectations should be top 5 in the BIG, a BIG semifinal appearance and win a game in the tournament.
Cliff didn’t progress much at all in his time on the banks, especially offensively. Mag was rounding out nicely before his injury. But that’s two out of how many? So many recruits didn’t develop or work out at all. That has to change. The reputation as a developer of talent has to be re-earned. Maybe we’ll see it with Sommerville, Dortch and Grant.Cliff is 10x the player he was when he arrived here. Mag became one of the best defenders after looking lost his freshman year. But sometimes you can only develop so much before players hit their ceiling.
I was limiting it to guys transferring it this year. Tons of players have developed a ton with pike - Eugene, Myles, Ron, Caleb, geo, etc. look at their rankings and then look at their production. Now look at that for Kentucky. Knight and day.Cliff didn’t progress much at all in his time on the banks, especially offensively. Mag was rounding out nicely before his injury. But that’s two out of how many? So many recruits didn’t develop or work out at all. That has to change. The reputation as a developer of talent has to be re-earned. Maybe we’ll see it with Sommerville, Dortch and Grant.
My original response asked the “last couple years”. Dean, Oskar, Miller, Chol, Wilf, Derek? The players you named seem like ages ago now.I was limiting it to guys transferring it this year. Tons of players have developed a ton with pike - Eugene, Myles, Ron, Caleb, geo, etc. look at their rankings and then look at their production. Now look at that for Kentucky. Knight and day.
Sometimes you just run into a kid who has a hot hand. There is nothing you can do about that.It's luck of the draw. That 24 year old on Oakland was 10 for 20 from 3 and most of the shots were high level of difficulty. What can Pike do about it? Get a guy from the portal that can shoot like that.
You do when someone hits 10 3s.you also don't give up 80 points in 69 possessions
And we always get bounced early in the conference tournament . Next year that needs to changePartially, but they got bounced in their first game in the SEC tourney also.
Kentucky didn’t loose because of their offense. They lost because of their defense. They gave up 80 to Oakland and 32 points to a d2 transfer.Run an offense. Some sets designed to get the talent you have in positions to score. Far too much 1v1/hero ball by UK down the stretch.
Thinking we start by avoiding hiring Cal.3 seed, talented freshman hyped up as lottery picks, bounced in the first round by an older team.
Just my opinion on how RU avoids what just happened to UK. With Pike I’m not too worried about DKentucky didn’t loose because of their offense. They lost because of their defense. They gave up 80 to Oakland and 32 points to a d2 transfer.
Plum nails it again! Mark it down.This is why it’s a crapshoot. When you see a program like Kentucky and Kansas having issues , it sure as hell can happen to Rutgers too.
I think we are expecting too much next year . Realistic expectations should be top 5 in the BIG, a BIG semifinal appearance and win a game in the tournament.
It might be a realistic expectation but not a satisfactory one with two elite one and done recruits.The following year could be far worse with no NCAA bid which doesn't happen at Kansas and Kentucky.Plum nails it again! Mark it down.
At this point I would take that3 seed, talented freshman hyped up as lottery picks, bounced in the first round by an older team.
No, i think what I laid out is what we should be happy .At this point I would take that
Oskar developed and although most of you will never admit it, Derek did develop on D, ball handling, passing and rebounding.My original response asked the “last couple years”. Dean, Oskar, Miller, Chol, Wilf, Derek? The players you named seem like ages ago now.
My original response asked the “last couple years”. Dean, Oskar, Miller, Chol, Wilf, Derek? The players you named seem like ages ago now.
Don’t toss JY in there, he was done at Rutgers 3 years ago not 2. Love Geo and RHJ, they really did blossom under Pike. But that’s it to me really.Two years ago, we had just lost to ND in the play-in-game of the tourney and were saying goodbye to Baker, RHJ, and Jacob Young.... all of whom developed under Pike. Last year we said goodbye to McConnell, Mulcahy, and Spencer - all of whom developed under Pike.
This year, we say goodbye to Oskar and Omoruyi, who both developed under Pike.
This was a down year - we lost most of the players who had been developed, two unexpectedly. Chol and Miller never panned out, and Simpson/Woolfolk hit sophomore slumps. To use this year as evidence that "Pike doesn't develop players" is just having an axe to grind.