Leaks??
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Jim Leavitt was fired for cause at USF for hitting a player and he still walked away with millions.
LOL...I know you're joking, but that is exactly the kind of move that would NOT surprise me!
This is starting to smell like the aborted 2013 midnight run that fell apart on the eve of the USF game.
The current investigation has nothing to do with contacting the professor.
The current investigation is for other academic improprieties.
Pelini is not going to get consideration. He can coach, but he's bat sh!t crazy and flips out on refs and the media. He cost his kids a huge game this weekend with 2 unsportsmanlike sideline penalties.
http://www.tribtoday.com/page/conte...ine-trantrum-by-Pelini-too-much.html?nav=5414
http://www.tribtoday.com/page/conte...ine-trantrum-by-Pelini-too-much.html?nav=5414
Typically, these employment contracts have offset language that reduces the amount the prior school/employer pays by the amount the new school/employer pays.
If we're going to hire a bat-shit crazy coach, can we at least turn off the video cameras during practice.
This the same legal department that said Rice couldn't be fired for cause...would anything surprise you with them
Yeah, it's different from the investigation over the contact with the professor. So?
You can see Bo in action in this link--could not link the video.
Wasn't there another thread that talked about wanting excitement?
http://www.omaha.com/huskers/blogs/...cle_a18a6a3e-8b22-11e5-b3ee-1f246cc1deb1.html
So, isn't one of your points that RU can't double dip? Can't suspend him for 3 games and subsequently fire him for the same series of events?
I'm pointing out that they are not the same set of events.
As a lawyer, can you comment on how many times a 7 figure investigation of an employee by management returns no finding?
In the corporate world is it rare for management to get a preliminary report on something and hold it until a more opportunistic time?
BTW, I'm not suggesting they are trying to fire him for cause or find a way to not pay him.
The thing with this is that did they really need this whole second investigation, what was it about the first that led them not to fire him?
There are only two things I can think of
- Someone actually thought Flood would have a good season, which by the Wazzu game was just not logical
- They think the second investigation will have more weight making the case for the no buyout
What should have been done with Flood is what should have been done with Rice....you're fired for material breach of contract, the moral turpitude provision and if you sue us good luck telling a Middlesex County jury how it was not moral turpitude to scream "Lithuanian F****" and throw basketballs or put into writing that you broke the rules for a guy who broke another student's jaw and who had a DUI.
It is just a matter of litigating with balls, you know lawyers usually like to argue I am not sure why the ones RU hires don't. Yeah NJ employees have a lot of rights, breaking OPRA and throwing basketballs not among them...
I suggest using RED next time for added emphasis.
We spent a million dollars or more on this investigation? Wow. Must be really bad. The prominent leaker couldn't do this himself for free to save us the $? I have no doubt they have seen a preliminary report, but don't possess a copy so it isn't subject to OPRA just yet, & the final report will be issued on Black Friady...so, odds this report is released Saturday night after the Maryland game?
Absolutely not rare. In fact it's quite common. Companies build cases to terminate an employee for months, sometimes even years depending on the level of said employee, before actually acting upon it.
I'm aware it's a different investigation but unless it turns up something really egregious I'd still be a little surprised if they used it to fire him for cause with a big hoopla and possible legal fight.
Just fire him, pay him and be done with it.
Just my opinion, this "second investigation" isn't just about getting Flood for cause. It's a legitimate look into our program so we can go back to the B1G and NCAA and say "hey this is what we found. This is what we are doing about it. Do you have any recommendations?" It's a CYA for our AD and University as a B1G member. And if there so happens to be things found that don't shine a good light on Coach Flood well, then there's that too. Again, just my opinion.
I tend to share your opinion. I also agree with you that the KS legal counsel could be keeping Julie in the loop, giving her some suggestive hints as to where this is headed, but not yet offered up a finished report. And I can totally see the final report being delivered via Fed Ex on the Saturday of Thanksgiving weekend...if ya get my drift.
I've thought this as well, but most here tend to insinuate it's more a fishing expedition on Flood. It could turn up something on him but I don't know if that was the sole purpose of it.
Well let's hope it's delivered soon since we don't need that uncertainty hanging over us as we begin our official search for a replacement. This will be difficult enough without such a dark cloud over us. Sounds like this could be a situation where there will be nothing saved from not having to pay flood given legal costs.
No. Pay closer attention. What you'd like to call my "double dip" point was in response to someone who said that when RU suspended Flood they also told him to start negotiating his severance. That's the double dip point. It had nothing to do with the later investigation by the firm that specializes in NCAA work. Yes, we also talked about that. But there's multiple points being discussed at once. Kind of multi-tasking.
Keep up.
This is a much more reasonable guess at it. In fact, much of what the second investigation addresses is public. There were numerous articles reporting that it was a bottom-up investigation that also focused on two additional allegations -- the player failing multiple drug tests and still being on the active roster, and the hostess ambassador program post-Carroo incident.
The $1 million plus guess was absurd. I'm sure it's expensive, but not that. Not nearly.
Unless there is a bigger issue that we need to self report to demonstrate to the NCAA that we are out in front and not out of control.
Schiano is the better program builder from scratch. Definitely a better recruiter, also.
His problem is that he left the college game a little too early. He has things rolling when he bolted. I firmly believe had he stayed at rutgers, with the staff he had, we would have won the Big East outright the very next year.
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How many here suspected the whole "let's meet in the Princeton Library and not wearing Rutgers garb in order to not be noticed" story before the first report came out?
To me, that lil' fishing expedition caught a pretty strange fish.
Nobody, pretty much everyone thought the email thing would be innocuous. This might turn up something too but I don't know that's the goal of it as opposed to what was said above. Regardless, unless it's something really egregious I'd still be a little surprised for firing with cause with all the hoopla involved and possible legal fight.
Maybe someone helps someone win an election, and then that someone appoints a BOG member and tells said member to launch an investigation and hire a certain law firm to run it. For a million dollars I can do 50 hours of work and produce a 30 page piece of crap too.
I'd be surprised if this NCAA firm doesn't find something. It's hard to be squeaky clean. Even if it's not intentional, people screw up. What's not believable is that something fireable would be discovered and hidden or not acted on until just after the Maryland game. It's hard to list the number of things wrong with that.
You made some very good points Buggsy. But would you admit that Edsall with 2&3 star recruits was able to beat WV and Cincy not to mention a win a BCS bowl game. To be honest I was a bit shocked how Edsall failed at MD. However, with that being said I rather give him a shot than some of the truly unrealistic names being circulated on this thread.
With Rutgers luck:
will find more than one major violation, a few minor ones and come down hard on Rutgers.
With that happening, RU will decide they might as well keep Flood until his contract expires,
adding one more penalty RU FB fans will have to endure.
Edsall didn't win a BCS bowl game...they pretty much got destroyed in their Fiesta Bowl. Like embarrassingly bad.
I definitely have to hand it to Edsall for beating WVU, something Schiano never could (he came very very close a few times, including one game where we ABSOLUTELY should have if not for a ridiculous dropped pass in the end zone for the win.
