Interesting article that some of the Astros were wearing devices on their shoulder that vibrated. This eliminated the need for the banging. Wonder if Beltran brought that technology to the Yanks!
OT: 2019-20 NY Mets Offseason "Hot Stove" Thread
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Must've gotten recommendations from Cashman for the year before.
You never know. I don't think anyone should be celebrating this. My take is all teams were doing this.
That might explain why Altuve was so insistent that no one tear his jersey off after he hit that walk off home run against the Yanks in the playoffs. Damn.
It's any electronic devices. The Sox got in trouble for using an Apple watch in 2017 and the Yankees for improper use of a dugout phone. That was what prompted the memo from Manfred. So the buzzers that folks are speculating about would definitely be against the rules.
They just need to stop using traditional signs and find a way for pitchers and catchers to communicate in a way you can't steal via camera.
Make it electronic. Bench (if desired) -> Catcher -> Pitcher or however they want it to go. Ear piece can listen for beeps or light on glove.
Imagine how the cheaters used the tech and adopt it for calling pitches. Prob solved. It IS the 21st century after all.
Yankees and Gleyber cheating also it looks like. Gleyber uses something on his left leg and Yanks hide a guy in bullpen and a live feed.
I hope they offer the job to Cano in exchange for never playing again.
Now that Beltran is out, someone in the organization really needs to look at BVW. He must have had some inkling that Beltran was under this investigation from MLB. The fact that he failed to take into account the possibility that Beltran would be knee deep in this makes me think he did not perform proper due diligence.
As a Met fan, Beltran had to go. If the team were to win, fairly or unfairly questions would have been raised about cheating. Now that he is gone, I hope they look at an experienced manager. If you are trying to win now you need someone who is not learning on the job like Mickey.
As a Met fan, Beltran had to go. If the team were to win, fairly or unfairly questions would have been raised about cheating. Now that he is gone, I hope they look at an experienced manager. If you are trying to win now you need someone who is not learning on the job like Mickey.
If I was a Yankee fan I would be careful getting on my high horse until this fully shakes out knowing Beltran worked there. Supposedly there are 8 additional teams being investigated.
Lol. I wonder if Clemens, Petitte, Mike Stanton, Jason Grimsley, Jim Leyritz, David Justice and Jason Giambi amongst others will agree with you
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Carlos Beltrans tenure as Mets manager.
Is there a reason why BVW is still employed after:
-Getting Robinson Cano in an unnecessary trade,
-Signing a Jed Lowrie to a big FA contract so he can only play in the final weekend of the season
-Hiring a puppet he can control instead of hiring a championship manager who was practically begging for the job
-Not doing the due diligence on Carlos Beltran while the Astros rumors were starting to circulate
-Hiring Jessica Mendoza, who's only contribution to the team is suggesting that MLB go after the whistleblower, who opened the door to one of the biggest scandals since the Black Sox Scandal.
Hell, I truly expect BVW to hire Mendoza to be the next manager.
-Getting Robinson Cano in an unnecessary trade,
-Signing a Jed Lowrie to a big FA contract so he can only play in the final weekend of the season
-Hiring a puppet he can control instead of hiring a championship manager who was practically begging for the job
-Not doing the due diligence on Carlos Beltran while the Astros rumors were starting to circulate
-Hiring Jessica Mendoza, who's only contribution to the team is suggesting that MLB go after the whistleblower, who opened the door to one of the biggest scandals since the Black Sox Scandal.
Hell, I truly expect BVW to hire Mendoza to be the next manager.
If you were hired to join Beltran's staff where do you stand right now? I assume you get paid regardless but does the new guy/gal (Mendoza option) try to hire his/her staff at this late date or go with what is already there? To me this has an internal replacement hire written all over it.
Agree. Luis Rojas has gone through the process and has been fully vetted. Plug and play.
Of course, given recent developments, who knows what "fully vetted" even means?
I assume you didn't mean plug and play with regard to the video equipment needed to electronically steal signs?0__0
During the press conference, BVW made it sound like the coaches will be kept on. I just don't see the Mets paying out all the coaches contracts and letting the new manager hire the staff.
I would have no problem with Terry Collins taking over the team for a season.
I can’t believe I’m saying this because I don’t even like Collins as a manager and wanted him gone, but compared to Callaway and Beltran, I’d take him back in a heartbeat.
FWIW, here are current odds from Betonline as to who will be the next manager:
Eduardo Perez +300
Luis Rojas +325
Hensley Meulens +350
Tim Bogar +400
Tony Defrancesco +700
Bruce Bochy +900
Buck Showalter +900
Terry Collins +900
Dusty Baker +900
John Gibbons +1000
Kevin Long +1200
Eduardo Perez +300
Luis Rojas +325
Hensley Meulens +350
Tim Bogar +400
Tony Defrancesco +700
Bruce Bochy +900
Buck Showalter +900
Terry Collins +900
Dusty Baker +900
John Gibbons +1000
Kevin Long +1200
Now seeing how wide spread this cheating is,what deGrom did the last 2 seasons is even more amazing, mind-blowing,really.
I thought the delay in letting Beltran go was because they wanted to have a new manager in place the next day,oh well. The Mets just being themselves I guess!
Wow. Except for Buck that is a underwhelming list.
No, there was never a chance of that happening. The "delay", which was only two days, was a very reasonable period to determine what they wanted to do, and to reach a settlement with Beltran.I thought the delay in letting Beltran go was because they wanted to have a new manager in place the next day,oh well. The Mets just being themselves I guess!
Watch Muellens go to the Red Sox while BVW twattle his thumbs up his arse.
