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OT: 2024 NY Mets Season Thread

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jump on him early



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Recalling the situation with McNeil and the Brewers at the beginning of the season, I was OK with Winker's histrionics.
I was really puzzled with the decision to pull Peralta. Given the need to keep arms fresh in a short series, it didn't make a lot of sense to not continue to get more from him. Their manager seems to be pulling the wrong strings.
When Butto has reasonable control and isn't walking the #9 hitter, he's very good.
Can't say enough about Mendoza. I've never seen a manager be right so frequently on coin flip decisions. I was skeptical when they hired him but the dude has an amazing knack for making decisions that pan out.
 
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Recalling the situation with McNeil and the Brewers at the beginning of the season, I was OK with Winker's histrionics.
I was really puzzled with the decision to pull Peralta. Given the need to keep arms fresh in a short series, it didn't make a lot of sense to not continue to get more from him. Their manager seems to be pulling the wrong strings.
When Butto has reasonable control and isn't walking the #9 hitter, he's very good.
Can't say enough about Mendoza. I've never seen a manager be right so frequently on coin flip decisions. I was skeptical when they hired him but the dude has an amazing knack for making decisions that pan out.
I wonder if there was any push back from executives in the Yankees organization to really try to entice Mendoza to stay?
 
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No way that he was going to pass up an opportunity to manage!
Remember how much this board and the media was glowing about Buck after year one, and then this most-veteran of all-veteran managers supposedly forgot how to manage the following year.

There's nothing different with this new guy, Mendoza. He was a bum the first two months of this season, and now he's a magical puller of the right strings.

Ah, managers. It's always the same. They never matter that much.

Look at all the noise the press made about Craig Counsell this past off-season. Then he went from the Brewers to the Cubs. And, low and behold, the Brewers had about the same record without Counsell in 2024 as they did with him in 2023. And the Cubs had the same record with him in 2024 as they did without him in 2023.

Look at Joe Torre's entire managing career, from the Mets, to the Braves, to the Cards, to the Yankees and then to the Dodgers. He sucked, he kind of sucked, he was mediocre, he was the greatest manager since John McGraw, and then he was mediocre again.

The manager just doesn't matter that much.
 
Random comments:
Recalling the situation with McNeil and the Brewers at the beginning of the season, I was OK with Winker's histrionics.
I was really puzzled with the decision to pull Peralta. Given the need to keep arms fresh in a short series, it didn't make a lot of sense to not continue to get more from him. Their manager seems to be pulling the wrong strings.
When Butto has reasonable control and isn't walking the #9 hitter, he's very good.
Can't say enough about Mendoza. I've never seen a manager be right so frequently on coin flip decisions. I was skeptical when they hired him but the dude has an amazing knack for making decisions that pan out.
Not that zeroed into the history, and maybe others are not:






If I was McNeil, I would have gone full Bud Harrelson on Hoskins.

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Remember how much this board and the media was glowing about Buck after year one, and then this most-veteran of all-veteran managers supposedly forgot how to manage the following year.

There's nothing different with this new guy, Mendoza. He was a bum the first two months of this season, and now he's a magical puller of the right strings.

Ah, managers. It's always the same. They never matter that much.

Look at all the noise the press made about Craig Counsell this past off-season. Then he went from the Brewers to the Cubs. And, low and behold, the Brewers had about the same record without Counsell in 2024 as they did with him in 2023. And the Cubs had the same record with him in 2024 as they did without him in 2023.

Look at Joe Torre's entire managing career, from the Mets, to the Braves, to the Cards, to the Yankees and then to the Dodgers. He sucked, he kind of sucked, he was mediocre, he was the greatest manager since John McGraw, and then he was mediocre again.

The manager just doesn't matter that much
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HoF manager when he had multiple HoF players.

Xs and Os don’t matter much when your Jimmy and Joe’s are that much better than the other guy’s.
 
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HoF manager when he had multiple HoF players.

Xs and Os don’t matter much when your Jimmy and Joe’s are that much better than the other guy’s.
Made me look again at those rosters- insane talent on those teams - not sure if there has been a team in the modern era that consistently had that much talent, not only as starters but their bench was crazy good too
 
Made me look again at those rosters- insane talent on those teams - not sure if there has been a team in the modern era that consistently had that much talent, not only as starters but their bench was crazy good too
The A’s of the early 70’s and the Big Red Machine were both pretty good as well.

With the results too.
 
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The A’s of the early 70’s and the Big Red Machine were both pretty good as well.

With the results too.
You know what is interesting- if you go back and look at 162 game averages for some of the players- Bench was good for 5 HR and 9 RBI more than Posada. Tino was actually better than Perez. Bernie better than and Cincy OF and of course- Morgan better than any Yankee 2B but Jeter heads and shoulders above Conception. SP was pretty equal and Mo just was the difference
 
Wish there was a way to get Acuna in there but then again- this is what JD is here for. Excited to get this game going tonight!!!!
Admittedly groaned when he was put in to pinch hit, but the man stepped up. And you’re right…this is what he’s here for. If produces, he will stay in.
 
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McNeil looked like a crybaby on that slide. It was legal. The umps even reviewed it.

As to Rose's slide into Buddy, that's the real reason why he never got into the hall!
It was a late slide that he started at the base, just because he can hang on to the base with his fingertips making it legal doesn't mean it was clean. Could have easily torn his ACL. Anybody that knows what they're talking about would tell you that.
 
It was a late slide that he started at the base, just because he can hang on to the base with his fingertips making it legal doesn't mean it was clean. Could have easily torn his ACL. Anybody that knows what they're talking about would tell you that.
Nonsense. It's legal, it's clean. The Mets looked like wussies complaining about this, mostly McNeil.

You should watch the multiple pieces that Jomboy did on this. It shows much of the rest of the league doing it like Hopkins, and even Alonso doing it like Hopkins. For some reasons, McNeil and some other Mets don't do it, but they are the exception.

The rule was changed years ago to remove from the game the real bad Hal McRae, Pete Rose, most everybody else, take-out slides where the runner didn't even feign to be able to stay on the bag. That's gone. But if you can hold onto the bag it's legal. McNeil knows that, and he looked like a baby complaining about It. Remember when Lindor had to go down the tunnel to straighten out whatever whining McNeil did a year or two ago. It's become pretty clear to me that he's a bit of a wingnut.
 
From on the verge of stepping on their throats to this in 2 swings of the bat 🤦‍♂️
 
Megill likely has one more inning max in him. Longest outing this year was 30 pitches. He's at 22 now. Keep working the count, wear their arms out.

It would be great to get six innings from Manaea tonight.
 
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