OT: Coming to a beach near you in NJ and NY
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Dead whale washes ashore in Long Branch
Another dead whale washes ashore along Jersey Shore, this time in Long Branchwww.app.com
This guy lost me at "previously pristine waters".
Dead whale washes ashore in Long Branch
Another dead whale washes ashore along Jersey Shore, this time in Long Branchwww.app.com
Very interested in this doc
Where are all the dead whales from shitloads of sonar they used from the titanic mishap?
Would you rather they destroy all the towns or just their own town? You dont see any affluent elected dEms pushing for diversity and low income housing in their own neighborhoods.
I remember those days and all the excitement around much warmer (but still very cold) superconductors. Thought I posted here, but it seems I didn't, but the day of the announcement I had posted the following elsewhere:
Color me skeptical, as several in the field are already questioning this work and recently another supposed room temp (but very high pressures) superconductor paper was retracted due to fabricated results. Also, this is a preprint, not a peer-reviewed scientific paper, so it could be complete crap. Based on my years of reviewing scientific papers, any time "breakthroughs" are breathlessly announced on Twitter, accompanied by ridiculous language, skepticism is warranted, and in this case, the paper ends with, "We believe that our new development will be a brand-new historical event that opens a new era for humankind." Nobody should be suggesting such a thing before peer review.
https://inews.co.uk/.../room-temperature-superconductors...
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02401-2
And now, as many kind of expected, the latest is that almost everyone now thinks this was either a hoax or a lab artifact, as nobody has been able to replicate creating a room temperature superconductor by the recipe provided in the original paper and the researchers who posted about this are getting defensive. Will be very surprised if this isn't completely forgotten about in 6 months apart from it being another apocryphal story of a faux scientifc breakthrough. Cold fusion anyone? HCQ?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../room-temperature.../
He's also well known for believing the US Government possesses a dozen or so UFOs and I'm guessing his BA in Peace and Global Studies and his MA in anthropology are integral to his expertise in cetacean biology.
I watched all the videos. They continually refer to Atlantic Right whales and, as I noted previously, all the NJ whales have been Humpbacks. Also there's nothing in there that I could reasonably call "evidence". I'm not really impressed.
Same here - it's also amazing how people keep bringing up all the same tired, inaccurate arguments when the plain truth is before them, i.e., whales have been dying for decades close to the very busy US east coast (especially from the Chesapeake to Cape Cod), almost completely due to boat impacts and/or entanglements - and this goes for right whales, too. There weren't even any windmill studies until a few years ago and the peak of the current mortality event was before that in 2017. Pretty sure I posted this earlier in the thread, but in case not, here are the facts on right whales from NOAA's Marine Mammal Commission, and below that is an excellent graphic on whale deaths since 2007.
https://www.mmc.gov/wp-content/uplo...rge-Whales-along-the-East-Coast-2.21.2023.pdf
Human-caused mortality and serious injury, particularly entanglements and vessel strikes, is the greatest threat to recovery of North Atlantic Right Whales (Moore 2023). Today, there are fewer than 350 North Atlantic right whales in existence, with fewer than 95 mature females in the population. An Unusual Mortality Event was declared for North Atlantic right whales in 2017, and currently includes 97 individuals (36 dead, 22 seriously injured, and 39 sub-lethally injured or ill).
Between 2003 and 2018, in cases where a cause of death could be determined, every juvenile and adult right whale death was attributable to human activities (Sharp et al. 2019). After the first year of life, right whales do not live long enough to die of natural causes. In addition, sub-lethal effects of ship strikes and entanglement can impair the growth and reproduction of right whales and further impair their recovery (Moore 2023).
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I forget how the hell this thread jumped to superconductors, but we will allow it . . . .
Yeah, there may be a red flag or two, but I'll wait for the full documentary. Regardless of @RU848789 's feelings on his credentials, he has an interesting background and describes himself as an ecomodernist- part of which includes greater reliance on nuclear power. In 2008, Time Magazine named him Hero of the Environment, so he has that going for himself.
Michael Shellenberger - Wikipedia
Heroes of the Environment 2008 - TIME
They dare to ask pragmatic questions that challenge the received wisdom of more mainstream thinkers
His lack of credentials are, by far, a secondary issue - Einstein was a patent clerk when he published his 4 seminal papers on a suite of physics topics, which led to his Nobel Prize, so credentials are overrated. The main point is he has become a hack, who jumps into topics, like this one, which he clearly has not done deep research on and makes outlandish claims without building a strong case for those claims. Knowing what the experts in this field already have demonstrated with regard to whale deaths, I'm nearly certain that his "documentary" will be a pastiche of misinformation and innuendo with very little substance.Yeah, there may be a red flag or two, but I'll wait for the full documentary. Regardless of @RU848789 's feelings on his credentials, he has an interesting background and describes himself as an ecomodernist- part of which includes greater reliance on nuclear power. In 2008, Time Magazine named him Hero of the Environment, so he has that going for himself.
Michael Shellenberger - Wikipedia
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Heroes of the Environment 2008 - TIME
They dare to ask pragmatic questions that challenge the received wisdom of more mainstream thinkerscontent.time.com
Fabricated results. Is that anything like the safety of Covid 19 vaccines and related deaths?
T2k is our vaccine expert please have all vaccine statements vetted by him before posting.
Can you address the letter of Sean Hayes, PhD, of the NOAA, and his 2 page letter? And your own quote from the PDF document lump right whale and humpback whales into the same category, or did I misread something? If I interpret the letter of Dr Hayes correctly, is he not expressing an the concern of excess traffic associated with piledrivingand windmill construction as an ADDED stressor to the whales? Is Dr Hayes alone on a banana boat, or is Shellenberger taking his letter out of context? Admittedly, I have not done a deep dive on this. No puns intended on banana boats and deep dives. Link toy post with 2 page letter:
OT: Coming to a beach near you in NJ and NY
Rhode Island rejects wind farm https://vandrew.house.gov/news/email/show.aspx?ID=VBDW4TI4BSXU2
rutgers.forums.rivals.com
His letter is about future impacts off the coast of New England on right whale foraging prey being impacted by the windmilll structures/noise and this possibly impacting right whale populations that are already stressed by shipping/boating/entanglements and prey issues. Perhaps he has a point (and it might be only local to New England), but that's not my area of expertise. It's also completely unrelated to 99% of the arguments in this thread and on-line, where people are trying to say that the 7-year ongoing unusual mortality event for whales is due to windmills, which is insane, as there are no windmills yet and undersea mapping activities have only ramped up in the past year or two. I would like to think that the NOAA scientists have taken his input seriously, but I'm not in the loop on their response - would be interesting to see what that response was.Can you address the letter of Sean Hayes, PhD, of the NOAA, and his 2 page letter? And your own quote from the PDF document lump right whale and humpback whales into the same category, or did I misread something? If I interpret the letter of Dr Hayes correctly, is he not expressing an the concern of excess traffic associated with piledrivingand windmill construction as an ADDED stressor to the whales? Is Dr Hayes alone on a banana boat, or is Shellenberger taking his letter out of context? Admittedly, I have not done a deep dive on this. No puns intended on banana boats and deep dives. Link toy post with 2 page letter:
OT: Coming to a beach near you in NJ and NY
Rhode Island rejects wind farm https://vandrew.house.gov/news/email/show.aspx?ID=VBDW4TI4BSXU2
No, not even a little bit. The COVID vaccine safety data are exemplary, just like they are for childhood vaccines. There are a total of zero scientific papers published linking the vaccines to more than a handful of deaths out of billions of doses given, but on the other hand, the vaccines have saved 2+ million lives in the US and tens of millions worldwide. However, there has been plenty of fabrication going on with regard to the effectiveness of both HCQ and ivermectin. However, we're not supposed to be talking about COVID on this board, so I'll stop there.
It's worth pointing out that construction noise is temporary but structure at sea has long been determined to be beneficial to marine life all throughout the food chain.
If right whales have become highly active in the waters off southern New England, then of course they should be accommodated as much as possible since there are so few of them.
Looking at the Passive Acoustic Cetacean Map, which Hayes references in his letter as a primary data source, a couple of things stand out. First, the most active years are very clearly 2016 & 2017, with 2022 total detections being less than 25% of the totals from five years previous. Interestingly, the total detection numbers correlate almost exactly to the New England stranding numbers, which would lend the impression that "more whales = more strandings".
It also appears, based on the data, that right whales are only active in those waters during the winter months. Detections during warmer months are a fraction of those during the colder months - this is unquestionably due to the fact that baleen whales are, for the most part, cold water animals as their primary food source consists of zooplankton which thrive in cold water. It also provides a convenient window for construction to avoid contact with whales, since building anything in the North Atlantic during the winter is generally a bad idea.
Finally, something of a shout-out: A majority of the detection platforms used to compile this data are of the "glider" type, a device which was developed by Rutgers University marine bio folks (my own niece among them).
That's one thing NJ is known for, absolutely, lots of low cost housing LMAO
Let's do a comparison, average home price in some of the most diverse places in NJ like JC or Edison versus some red crudhole. How will it turn out?
That is a whale of a lot of knowledge, you have there, sailor! We must discuss these things at the first tailgate.
Good idea. FWIW, since Dad will be in Utah, I will be bringing My Attorney.
Cool. Looking to see how things have started off. BTW, we are fairly certain we are skipping that other tailgate we were invited to. Not our scene. Plus, who starts a tailgate at 5:30 p.m. for a 7:30 kickoff?
For the record, I appreciate the info you and @RU848789 have provided. Once the emotion and drama a stripped away, does not seem to be a lot of "there there," but can be persuaded with proper evidence and scientific reasoning, if any comes to light.
Thanks, and always open to new info - just not expecting it. The thing that gets me about all of this is that whales have been dying in high numbers in this region for 7+ years (and there was another similar peak in deaths about 30 years ago) and we never heard boo from any of the people holding the pitchforks currently. One would have thought that if they cared so much about whales, they would've been protesting commercial shipping and fishing activities for years, which are absolutely proven to be the major source of whale deaths/beachings, due to collisions and entanglements.
But no, it's only since an alternative energy source was proposed that might block their ocean views. Having said that, though, as I've said to Newell in this thread, there are certainly economic/tax break arguments (especially for a foreign company doing the project) to be made against the project, but very few are focused on that.
FWIW, nobody's "ocean views" are getting blocked. Given the proposed location of between 12 and 20 miles off the coast it's possible that on a crystal clear day folks on the beach would be able to vaguely distinguish some fuzzy lines extending to just above the horizon.
The good areas dont have any low cost housing. The towns with low cost housing turn into ghettos.
Affluent dems tend to avoid the policies they promote for the masses. You wont find low income housing or diversity in their neighborhoods or local schools.
The problem is the affluent dems want to expand the failed welfare model they use in Camden and they complain about the successful model used in Princeton.
They way to deal with affluent Dems is to ram the policies they support down their own throats. Raise THEIR taxes, build low income housing in THEIR neighborhoods, desegregate their kids schools and bus illegals to their neighborhoods. At that point they see the light and shift to the right.
Someone is big mad because they're poor, and blaming the wrong people.
Hardly. I move away from you and YOU protest to live near me. I cant get far enough. I do the work, put up the money and you then want free housing. Once you get it you destroy the whole neighborhood. I move again and you complain about Republican flight because there is nobody left to do the work and pay the taxes.
Can you tell us ANY system where the poor will be successful and self sufficient? Name the mythical system, use it in your town and own the results.
lol...
My house is paid for, slick. And quite large.
Yeah, my guess is you're not paying a lot on taxes. Just a guess.
Great. You are a REaganomics success story. Capitalism works.
What is the demographics of the neighborhood?
My neighborhood? They're large houses, so what you might expect. Racially diverse, though.
There's a Section 8 apartment complex a quarter of a mile up the road. Gives the local cops something to do.
Any poor families buying those big houses? Any low income projects?
Sounds like a neighborhood filled with "diverse" people all from the same income bracket who all work. In other words not much diversity. If you support low income housing then shouldn't you support it in YOUR own neighborhood too?
The poor people are a mile up the road on the other side of the tracks and a different school district so they cant destroy your neighborhood. Affluent liberals love diversity from afar.
Because nobody's going to allow a million dollar house to go Section 8. Would you vote for a state budget that put low income people in million dollar homes at taxpayer expense?
And it's not "a mile", it's a quarter of a mile - I very clearly stated that. And it's the same school district.
You're f*ckin stupid. Go away.
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