Wherever the best players are in the world, that is where to be. Practicing and training with the better players will make you better, even if you don't see much game time.
OT: Copa America 2016
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Wherever the best players are in the world, that is where to be. Practicing and training with the better players will make you better, even if you don't see much game time.
They really are world champions. There is no better leagues than those and it isn't close. Soccer is different. There are other great teams and leagues. There is zero chance that there was a better football team on the planet than the Broncos, Warriors for hoops and whoever won the World Series.
Same thing with European soccer, the best team in Europe is by far the best team in the world. Yet they call themselves European champions because, well, it's logical.
Good point mr trump.
I can see how those 11 million out of 300 plus million are ruining home field advantage. Or as you like to put it "home advantage".
Just waiting for USA vs Syria or Yemen in soccer. Ms. Clinton will schedule it--after welcoming thousands into the US. But of course all of the spectators and the US city where the game would be played would be safe.
Very much different. The NBA has the best players in the world. They are all in one league and no one disputes that. Soccer is much different.
All the best soccer teams and players are also in Europe, no one disputes that.
Costa Rica and Paraguay had a scoreless draw. Win the next two and we advance. Win and a draw and we need a little help from Colombia. Gotta beat the Ticos on Tuesday to get this first match behind us.
Dempsey had a couple of excellent strikes last night, but their goalie made great saves. Bradley was weak. I was not impressed by Yedlin last night either.
Dempsey had a couple of excellent strikes last night, but their goalie made great saves. Bradley was weak. I was not impressed by Yedlin last night either.
Go to a U.S. game vs Mexico in San Diego. If our country was serious about arresting illegals, that would be the prime spot.
Then they should call themselves world champions if they are playing each other.
Soccer is much different. The best league changes every 15 years. It used to be the Italian League and then Germany's. Now it's EPL.
The NBA is and has always been the best. It's so far ahead you can't even name the second best league.
All the best teams from each European leagues (the top 4 from England, Spain, Germany, etc. - top 2 from other countries with lesser leagues) play each other in the Champion's League, which Real Madrid just won last week. They call themselves European champions, not world champions, because again that just makes too much sense I guess.
Not nearly as cut and dry as NBA. All the best basketball players are in one league, not different leagues in different countries who happen to play sometimes.
Nonsense. Best league in the world is la liga. It's not as top heavy as people think. Barca, RM, AM are obviously top sides, but mid table sides like Villareal, Sevilla, Sociedad, etc. would be more than competitive with EPL mid table sides.
Lol "happen to play sometimes." No, that's simply not true. The best teams in Europe play each other every year in the Champion's League to decide who the best team is in Europe, just like the best teams in the NBA play each other every year in the playoffs to decide who's the best team in the NBA. You even agreed earlier by saying "if they play each other they should call themselves world champions," and now you're changing your mind again.
Agree on Yedlin, who has no touch and would be better used as an impact sub. And his horrendous error on the PK was naive. Glad he's getting PT in the EPL, but he needs more than speed to be effective.
Bradley was shite, with a lot of his passes getting picked off in bad spots.
Despite the score & some horrid performances, we were in the game and a few bounces really decided the match. If a few went our way, it could've been a draw. Given that was the #4 team in the world ATM, not an unexpected result and some things to build on.
"Bradley was shite, with a lot of his passes getting picked off in bad spots."
Bradley can be incredible and take over a game or can be a complete flop like on Friday. Thankfully, he's rarely been as bad as he was in that game. The unfortunate thing is the US team seems to play according to how Bradley is doing. If he's having a great game, he's so involved it makes the entire team play well. And when he's bad -- like some of the absolute horrible passes on Friday, it can kill the team.
We were lucky they didn't score 1-2 more from some of his blind passes that were picked off.
The one thing that scared me about the game was the way Columbia had several players make runs that got behind our defense. Not sure if we were trying to hold the line for an offsides trap or were completely fooled, but either is a bad sign.
Bradley can be incredible and take over a game or can be a complete flop like on Friday. Thankfully, he's rarely been as bad as he was in that game. The unfortunate thing is the US team seems to play according to how Bradley is doing. If he's having a great game, he's so involved it makes the entire team play well. And when he's bad -- like some of the absolute horrible passes on Friday, it can kill the team.
We were lucky they didn't score 1-2 more from some of his blind passes that were picked off.
The one thing that scared me about the game was the way Columbia had several players make runs that got behind our defense. Not sure if we were trying to hold the line for an offsides trap or were completely fooled, but either is a bad sign.
I nominate this for dumbest post ever
Europe is a disaster due to refugees (many of them with anti-West feelings) from the Middle East coming in waves to Germany, Belgium, etc. What is the screening process? There is none!
Actually, there IS a world championship, played every year in December. The FIFA Club World Cup is a seven team tournament, including the champions of each of the six FIFA regions, plus the champion of the host nation. The winner of the UEFA Champions League gets the Europe bid and generally, but not always, wins the tournament. For anyone else to win is a big upset, but upsets do happen in sports. Corinthians of Brazil won in 2012.
So in theory, any MLS team could win CONCACAF Champions League, win the FIFA Club World Cup, and earn the right to the title of best team in the world (even though in reality they would of course not be). It's not as crazy as it sounds. The FIFA Club World Cup is single elimination. You have to win three games, including one massive upset. Certainly no less likely than Leicester winning the Premiership.
Actually for MLS, the problem is winning the CONCACAF Champions League. A Mexican team almost always wins that.
Care to explain how a game on our soil has over half the crowd rooting for a foreign team from another continent?
If I had to guess, it would be that the 'Copa Cup' does NOT excite the casual US fan. And the Women's team is now the World Champion, and Casual fans love a winner. World Cup games are a whole other level of excitement for the US fan, while for South Americans and Europeans, it IS there National Sport. Here it's lower on the ladder.
I don't understand why in 2016 downplaying soccer some view as scoring political points. The lack of success of the national team has little do with the sport's popularity.
Soccer is the most popular sport in most countries, and the US would beat a lot of those teams. You have the top powers in Europe and S America, but other than that the US is plenty competitive.
Soccer is the most popular sport in most countries, and the US would beat a lot of those teams. You have the top powers in Europe and S America, but other than that the US is plenty competitive.
This further illustrates my point. The fact that you can debate the best league is further proof.
MLB, NFL, NBA are so far ahead that the second best leagues are those that feed them. It's apples and oranges.
To have this argument, you have to make a case that a non NBA team could beat the Warriors or that there is some non NFL team that could beat Broncos, somewhere in the world. It's preposterous.
Are you implying that Colombian-Americans can't root for Colombia? Welcome to the new America man. I know plenty of people who root for teams from their ancestral homeland...Italian Americans rooting for the azzuri, German Americans rooting for Germany, etc. These are also people who have never even stepped foot in their motherland...do they root for the U.S.? Sure...until the U.S. gets inevitably knocked out of a tournament. So who do you think a bunch of zero and first generation immigrants are going to root for?
That sickens me that people in this country would root against it.
The Liberal Bernie Sanders way
Again you aren't getting it lol. Of course you can debate the best league, no one's denying that. Yes, yes, yes. You can debate the best league. OK? But that has nothing, zero, zilch to do with the argument. I'll try to make myself as clear as possible:
***THE BEST TEAMS FROM THE BEST LEAGUES PLAY IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE TO DETERMINE THE BEST TEAM OVERALL***
Get it? If not, please read that a few times and once it really sinks in, come back to me. Like I understand you don't know much about soccer but it genuinely seems like you're trying to sound stupid by repeating the same, wrong things over and over and over again.
There is a big difference between rooting against one's country, and rooting against a sports team representing that country. To my knowledge, Bernie Sanders has done neither.
Or in Proud's case, telling people what sports team that one has to root for. I always root for the USMNT...but holy hell, their style of play is very hard to watch most of the time. Is it wrong that I'm also rooting for England and Belgium in the Euros because I like the way they play? Is that un-american?
So it's ok and encouraged for people in NJ to root for Pen St, Michigan and Notre Dame football since they are better than RU?
There is a HUGE difference between being born in Colombia or having your parents born there and being immersed that culture your entire life, than rooting for Notre Dame because you're Catholic despite never setting foot in Indiana.
I have no issue with people from PA and MI now living in NJ rooting for their teams. Even with Michigan, it's a great academic school I can understand why NJ kids go there.
OTOH, choosing Ped because it's "cool" when you're from NJ makes you look foolish. Rooting for the team of your birth nation or your ancestors is never foolish.
We live in a global world, get used to it.
interesting read on Mexico's agreements for playing in the US..
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/05/mexico-fans-usa-home-advantage-copa-america
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/05/mexico-fans-usa-home-advantage-copa-america
Didn't read the whole thread but was reading earlier today that Copa America and the Gold Cup could merge in the future and the tournament would be held in the US every 4 years on a permanent basis. I think they like the infrastructure and stadiums here that can handle all the logistics regularly.
