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Thanks for the reply. This is ground ivy. Worst weed i've ever seen. Just won't go away.
That is also known as Creeping Charlie, I have tried
every weed killer and 3 different lawn services, nothing
will kill that stuff.
 
That is also known as Creeping Charlie, I have tried
every weed killer and 3 different lawn services, nothing
will kill that stuff.

Triclopyr is the only thing I've seen that works, but you need to do repeated applications and stay on top of it. Even with that it pops up all over anyway.

The other negative to the Triclopyr is does a lot of damage to other plants so you need to be really careful where you apply it.
 
All this rain & humidity has caused some sort of fungus to appear in my lawn. Not mushrooms, but white mildewy patches.
 
All this rain & humidity has caused some sort of fungus to appear in my lawn. Not mushrooms, but white mildewy patches.

it is most likely Powdery Mildew. Comes from Humidity and not a lot of air flow in the area. Mow the lawn a little taller and over time it will go away once the humidity stops
 
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DJ- Definitely Japanese Stiltgrass- you probably have it in woods. Very difficult to kill with lawn weed killer. Pre-emergant a few weeks earlier than crabgrass helps, you can pull the weeds easily before they go to seed and I would use roundup on edges of lawn in wooded areas to prevent coming into lawn.
 
DJ- Definitely Japanese Stiltgrass- you probably have it in woods. Very difficult to kill with lawn weed killer. Pre-emergant a few weeks earlier than crabgrass helps, you can pull the weeds easily before they go to seed and I would use roundup on edges of lawn in wooded areas to prevent coming into lawn.
That's exactly what I was thinking: I have a huge amount of it growing at the edge of the woods/runoff gully. That's how it's gotten onto my backyard.
 
DJ- Definitely Japanese Stiltgrass- you probably have it in woods. Very difficult to kill with lawn weed killer. Pre-emergant a few weeks earlier than crabgrass helps, you can pull the weeds easily before they go to seed and I would use roundup on edges of lawn in wooded areas to prevent coming into lawn.

Would Tenacity kill it?
 
Would Tenacity kill it?
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Tenacity will not kill jap stiltgrass. The only lawn friendly selective herbicide is Acclaim Extra. Kind of pricy but a couple of applications in July has worked for me. Not sure if two apps will work at this time of year. It is an annual so I would recommend an early spring pre emergent.
 
I posted earlier that I waged a mini war against this foreign invader. I had Scotts lawn service who guaranteed satisfaction if any weed problems appear and that they would come back and fix. They came out and said no we cant take of that. I had large sections and many failed attempts with weed killer I eventually just used roundup and re-seeded in fall. Still get occasional clumps. DJ you need to pull, weedwack or kill now or they will drop seeds mid August that are good for 5 years. If all else fails, drop the MOAB. The incidental loss of life is a small price to pay.
 
Triclopyr will kill ground ivy. Might take two or three applications. It is the Active ingredient in Orthos Weed be gone “purple” cco.You can get it at Lowe’s or Home Depot but make sure it is the one with triclopyr.

Preemergence should go down about when forsythia is in bloom. So just about now. Doesn’t hurt to be early, though. For seeding, you can use Mesotrione at seed down, which has about a 30 day protection barrier. Dythiopyr (Dimmension), prodiamide (Baricade) have a four to six month barrier depending on the amount you use. Lime any time but I’d get a soil test from Rutgers to confirm what you need.

You may recall I was using the soil solarization method to minimize and/or kill weeds until I am ready to seed. I am having mixed results- some areas look good under the plastic, and other areas have large patches of typical weeds, but the good news is that they are not deeply rooted.

I am preparing to seed around Labor Day --too early?

And for areas that were not covered in plastic and/or overrun with weeds, is now a good time to spray to kill the weeds, or will that interfere with growing grass when I put the seed down?

Thanks.
 
You may recall I was using the soil solarization method to minimize and/or kill weeds until I am ready to seed. I am having mixed results- some areas look good under the plastic, and other areas have large patches of typical weeds, but the good news is that they are not deeply rooted.

I am preparing to seed around Labor Day --too early?

And for areas that were not covered in plastic and/or overrun with weeds, is now a good time to spray to kill the weeds, or will that interfere with growing grass when I put the seed down?

Thanks.
Depends on what you want to kill them with. Look up the residual effect of the product and spray at the appropriate time before you want to seed. I do the same for my organic fruit orchard. Some fungus killers aren't compatible with others and will burn the plant so I wait between spraying. Typically it's a 10-14 day residual effect. But that's on specific organic elements such as sulfur, horticultural oils, copper and the such. A Roundup product could be much longer as they're usually a mix of 20 chemicals so they don't wash off as easily.
 
Anybody have any suggestions for yellow nutsedge? The only thing I have found that works is manually removing. I am in Medford with pine barrens type sandy soil
 
And for areas that were not covered in plastic and/or overrun with weeds, is now a good time to spray to kill the weeds, or will that interfere with growing grass when I put the seed down?

Ideally you would spray weeds with glyphosate 10 days before seeding. You would then verify kill after a week and respray anything you missed. You can spray plain glyphosate (regular roundup) a day before seeding so the first spray 10 days out gives you a good window for respray if necessary.

I would include the preemergent mesotrione when seeding; either via spray of Tenacity (good postemergent to have as well for combat of crabgrass next year) or incorporated with starter fertilizer if you don't want to monkey w/ spray, I think Scotts makes this starter.
 
I totally agree with agoodnap’s recommendations for miloganite as an organic fertilizer and tenacity as a pre and post emergent herbicide (tenacity is a brand name of the active ingredient Mesotrione, which I mentioned earlier.) I would add that tenacity and all herbicides should be used carefully and only after reading and carefully following the label. The usage rate for tenacity is 4-8 ounces per acre diluted in at least 30gallons, and an annual max of 16 ounces per acre per year. This is not something you attach to a garden hose nosel and spray away. If you don’t have the equipment, time or inclination to be precise you can hire a licensed lawn care company. Overuse of Mesotrione, like other herbicides and fungicides can damage the environment and cause resistance management issues. Great tools if used appropriately.
I've got brown spot badly right now. Scott's Fungicide works for a bit but it comes right back. Any suggestions?
 
Got a lawn with a lot of different grass/weeds. Looks ok when I mow but comes up at all different times in the spring and doesn’t look good early summer. I also have some dead spots too. Want to give an effort early next month to fix some of this. Do I need to kill all the weed/crab grass first or can I just aerate, over seed and water and hope? Is aerateing critical or can I just loosen with a garden rake?
 
Sold my house and live in city now, happy as can be
I hate the amount of money a home sucks from your soul, but I would never move back into the city. My neighbors know I am nice guy and will pitch in to cut a tree, etc, but know want to be left alone. ...as I leave them alone.


From shoveling snow on my parking space, to those people who should be flogged in the public sq for not cleaning up their dog's sh*t off the sidewalk, to the guy who should have his hands cut off for dumping his crap in my dumpster...pass. never moving back in.


....now if I could only keep the grass growing and stop the crab grass without using enough Round Up to give cancer to the entire town.
 
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Got a lawn with a lot of different grass/weeds. Looks ok when I mow but comes up at all different times in the spring and doesn’t look good early summer. I also have some dead spots too. Want to give an effort early next month to fix some of this. Do I need to kill all the weed/crab grass first or can I just aerate, over seed and water and hope? Is aerateing critical or can I just loosen with a garden rake?
Sounds like my lawn. I’m short on time and have kids so maintenance limited to just mowing and watering. It’s not the best lawn on the block, but I’ve adopted the philosophy of neat=nice. Mow regularly, put a nice edge on it, water it enough to stay green, stick shrubs in the ground and mulch and you’re good to go.
 
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Front yard is going like gangbusters. Finally got the upper hand on the weeds out front, and the grass is loving it. I have to bag every time I cut from all this rain...I'm too busy to cut twice per week, or cut high then cut low same day.

Best thing I did this year was two rounds of Weed & Feed with Pre-Emergent. Once in mid March, and again when the forsythia bloomed 2nd week of April. the grass is booming from the early double dose of fertilizer, and the weeds never germinated from the doubleshot of pre-emergent.
 
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Front yard is going like gangbusters. Finally got the upper hand on the weeds out front, and the grass is loving it. I have to bag every time I cut from all this rain...I'm too busy to cut twice per week, or cut high then cut low same day.
We are cutting once per week without bagging and doing OK. I sometimes have to run over the cuttings.
Hogan Seed put us in their gallery. The lawn looks a lot better than it did in October.

Here is the backyard just prior to seeding in late September:
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This is the lawn in early November
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Front yard is going like gangbusters. Finally got the upper hand on the weeds out front, and the grass is loving it. I have to bag every time I cut from all this rain...I'm too busy to cut twice per week, or cut high then cut low same day.

Best thing I did this year was two rounds of Weed & Feed with Pre-Emergent. Once in mid March, and again when the forsythia bloomed 2nd week of April. the grass is booming from the early double dose of fertilizer, and the weeds never germinated from the doubleshot of pre-emergent.
The amount of rain we had, helps a lot too.
 
The down side of all the rain and cool temperatures is that while it’s good for your lawn, it is also unfortunately ideal conditions for annual blue grass and rough stalk bluegrass (poa annua and poa trivialis, respectively). These are lighter in color so don’t mix well with many lawns. They also go dormant in the heat and are unsightly to many (me, anyway). If you see lighter grassy patches on your golf course or lawn it may well be one or both of these. I was speaking with a golf grounds superintendent the other day and he said it’s probably the worst he has seen. Me too,and I have some in my yard.
 
The down side of all the rain and cool temperatures is that while it’s good for your lawn, it is also unfortunately ideal conditions for annual blue grass and rough stalk bluegrass (poa annua and poa trivialis, respectively). These are lighter in color so don’t mix well with many lawns. They also go dormant in the heat and are unsightly to many (me, anyway). If you see lighter grassy patches on your golf course or lawn it may well be one or both of these. I was speaking with a golf grounds superintendent the other day and he said it’s probably the worst he has seen. Me too,and I have some in my yard.
We have brown patches in one small section, but that may have been all of the chickweed that grew in that area, where I sprayed with WeedBeGon. There are patches of some type of grass with husks that are unsightly mixed in with our tall turf fescue, but we can live with those.
 
We have brown patches in one small section, but that may have been all of the chickweed that grew in that area, where I sprayed with WeedBeGon. There are patches of some type of grass with husks that are unsightly mixed in with our tall turf fescue, but we can live with those.
A lot of grasses, even desirable ones, are going to seed now so they could have husks and look a bit gangly. I’d just keep an eye on it, may be fine in two or three weeks.
 
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Anyone know much about soyza. never had problems with it, this year I have several brown patches that
never turned green, can't figure it out.
 
What is... More exciting that watching RU Football?

What did I win?
You win a special edition box set of “Watching Your Grass Grow.” Cast of thousands, all somehow with last names of Blade! You can even bring your own water bottles and watch in your own front yard, no pass needed.
 
By doing the 4-Step religiously for the past few years on my front lawn and with the rain this Spring I haven’t needed/done anything other than mowing.

It looks really good.
 
One afternoon a lawyer was riding along in his big limousine. When he saw two men along the roadside eating grass. Disturbed, he ordered his driver to top and he got out to investigate.

He asked one man, "Why are you eating grass ?"

"We don't have any money for food," the poor man replied. "We have to eat grass."

"Well, then, you can come with me to my house and I'll feed you," the lawyer said.

"But sir, I have a wife and two children with me. They are over there eating grass under that tree."

"Bring them along," the lawyer replied.

Turning to the second poor man he stated, "You may come with us, also."

The other man, in a pitiful voice, then said, "But sir, I also have a wife and six children with me!"

"Bring them all as well," the lawyer answered.

They all entered the car, which was no easy task, even for a car as large as the limousine. Once under way, one of the poor fellows turned to the lawyer and said, "Sir, you are too kind. Thank you for taking all of us with you."

The lawyer replied, "Glad to do it. You'll really love my place. The grass is almost a foot high.".
 
We are cutting once per week without bagging and doing OK. I sometimes have to run over the cuttings.
Hogan Seed put us in their gallery. The lawn looks a lot better than it did in October.

Here is the backyard just prior to seeding in late September:
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This is the lawn in early November
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Here's an updated picture:
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