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That pike isnt using players properly on the offensive end of the floor/not running an offense
Lol. You ever play college ball? High school? Any coaching?
Are we going to do this all season any time Young, Mathis, or Johnson have a big game? Like it or not, these players chose to move on. Best of luck to them-- but why not focus on the players that are on our current team?
Geez man, I have no clue what you do for a living but you could have been the highest paid state employee. Between being the HC for Football you could do the same for basketball.
We did okay after EO left, and we will do fine without JY.
12 points- 2 assists- 2 turnovers. Against Texas Southern.
He averaged 14 points under Pikiell. Maybe he’s regressed offensively under Altman!
He averaged 14 points under Pikiell. Maybe he’s regressed offensively under Altman!
JY is gone...wish him the best.....I think the Coaches and some of the players are somewhat happy he's gone as well.....better locker room and team chemistry now.....albeit he was terrific player and made the play of the millenium at Minnesota.
JY was high risk & high reward at RU
He wanted to be the man here but that’s wasnt possible with Geo and RHJ
He wanted to be the man here but that’s wasnt possible with Geo and RHJ
So... 14 pts, 3 RB, 2 Ast, 1 Stl, 2 tov..... against Texas Southern.... is dominating?
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Nope didnt play college ball or coach. But we also dont run a legitimate offense. For anyone that disagree with this i challenge you to post a simple 5 minute clip of any game in pikes first 5 years where you see use consistently running anything that resembles an offense. Theres about 150 games, all im asking for is a 5 minute clip
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Deferred in 2nd half when it was out of reach. 12 pts on 5-6 shooting in first half
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Hes alot better than geo
Clip the first 5 minutes PLUS the next 3 vs SHU at home in Dec 2019!! I see your 5 and raise you 3!!!
WOOOOHOOOOO!!! What do I win?
I mean who really gives a flying f_uck about this guy now. The guy didn't want to be here. He didn't want to be here. He didn't want to be here. He didn't want to be here. Should I say it again?
You're acting like the jilted boyfriend who's girl leaves him and you're running around stalking her. Find a new girl! Ride with what you got. And hopefully we have a pretty good team here.
And oh yea, JY didn't want to be here anymore!!
You're acting like the jilted boyfriend who's girl leaves him and you're running around stalking her. Find a new girl! Ride with what you got. And hopefully we have a pretty good team here.
And oh yea, JY didn't want to be here anymore!!
Why don’t we wait until we see our team this year before seeing what left the building.
Yep. And he was high risk and low reward at Texas, They were not sorry to see him go.
Yet another player (see: Eugene O.) who became a MUCH better player under Pike
Now there's a pattern for you
In the Carino article today he said Pike will have more of a ball movement / motion offense and less one on one this year. Hopefully that is the case because the last few years we relied way too much on it. Hopefully the on court chemistry results in more ball movement and flow.
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Show it to me. Haha, the first bucket on designed alley ooo play, very nice. Besides that motion a couple times (motion isnt a play, its a time killer) then no offensive sets besides high ball screen and space let guys go one on one.
I agree with this and if you read between the lines you can tell this was the case. I loved watching Jacob as he’s a gamer and left eve thing out on the floor but he could also be maddening to watch. Also , the other players had a tendency to stand and watch when he had the ball, specifically at the end of the shot clock. Sometimes a really good player doesn’t mesh well the the team; it’s no ones fault just reality.
I don't see anyone trashing this year's team by looking at JYs game . Root for our guys.. absolutely! but don't forget he's hardly the only guy who choose not to come back.
Here we go!!!! Can you please stop with this...Tx Southern...If we don't score 80 in every game are you going to continue beating this drum??? If our outside shooting improves our offense will look better...
Some players on the team didn’t mesh with Jacob. Easy to blame the guy who is gone. They also didn’t mesh with Eugene
LMAO...He just loves himself too much so continues to beat his own drum...Over and over and over
We run European side ball screen action as our main offense. It’s a common simple offense that my high school team runs as one of our offenses too. Many other colleges run this too. Now Rutgers runs the most basic version of this and don’t do a lot of wrinkles out of it which I’d love to see more of. If you watch BYU( I’ll link the video below) it’s pure basketball porn with constant movement , wrinkles and read and react.
I implemented some of their stuff last year but you have to have willing passers and cutters and the ball can’t stick.
Our problem the last few years is that the ball stuck in players hands and that is a coaching and player problem. We don’t run the most complex stuff but I’m willing to bed we’ll see more sets and wrinkles this year. I don’t ever think Pike will be Fran McCaffrey or Matt Painter as he doesn’t care as much about offense unfortunately.
Space and PNR, the thing all modern offenses are built upon. Ofc it’s not very complex and perhaps based on our offensive talent we should run one that is more play-based than principle-based but it’s certainly not nothing. We also do a good job finding mismatches and with our length I expect us to further attack these. In that clip we also see the team seamlessly transition from their offense against a man to an offense against a zone. I agree Pike isn’t flawless and that is an area of improvement for him, but I completely disagree that we do not run an offense.
Yep; like I said it’s no ones fault ; sometimes players don’t mesh. If you read Carinos article on Seton hall Willard has said this has been a problem with them this year early on too. Sometimes the parts and kids games just don’t fit .
Bad chemistry in 2018-19 with Eugene
Good chemistry in 2019-20 with Yeboah. Young wasnt a major factor and Ron and Geo were fi a points
Bad chemistry 2020-21 with Jacob being asked to shoulder the load on offense and defense
I certainly not concluding past chemistry issues are off the team.
This is 100% on the money and why I think the game is trending towards the NBA……and I hate it
I didn't say anyone was trashing the team. Who really cares about these guys who left? They didn't want to here for whatever reason. It's a new age of college sports and people are going to transfer out and transfer in. So if you want to pine away on the guys who left go ahead.
And if you're insinuating that Pikiell is doing something wrong here by saying he's not the only guy to transfer, I would say you're wrong. The guy has transformed this program. Complete 180. That doesn't mean he is perfect, but I sure as shit am not worrying about these transfers. The program is bigger than a couple of disgruntled players, I don't include Myles Johnson in that group of disgruntled guys.
Let me get this straight.. we're doubting the guy who got us to the tournament in what should have been 2 consecutive years in one of the toughest conferences??? Is that what we're doing???
I can understand questions for Schiano... But this?
I can understand questions for Schiano... But this?
