OT: NCAA College Football Games Thread 11/26-11/30 Tues-Sat

[JayDogSmooth]

I find it interesting that the damage to their football program from being in the ACC was so great they needed to immediately fight to get out even if it cost them hundreds of millions of dollars, but they are okay with risking sucking and being irrelevant for a couple of years in football to avoid a coaching buyout that is 10-20% of that.

Math isn’t difficult
Staying in the ACC until 2036 puts us ~500 million dollars behind our peers

The standard doesn’t change
We expect to compete for titles
This year is unacceptable on every measurable level

It can’t, and will not, happen again in any of our lifetimes

 

[krup]

Math isn’t difficult
Staying in the ACC until 2036 puts us ~500 million dollars behind our peers

The standard doesn’t change
We expect to compete for titles
This year is unacceptable on every measurable level

It can’t, and will not, happen again in any of our lifetimes

That was my point, the math shouldn’t be difficult.

By your numbers, losing 500 million in 12 years (approximately $40 million/year) is enough to justify a huge legal and PR battle to get out of a conference, but a $64 million buyout is too big of a hurdle to fire a coach, even though that is less ($32 million/year)? Explain how that makes sense.

 

[JayDogSmooth]

That was my point, the math shouldn’t be difficult.

By your numbers, losing 500 million in 12 years (approximately $40 million/year) is enough to justify a huge legal and PR battle to get out of a conference, but a $64 million buyout is too big of a hurdle to fire a coach, even though that is less ($32 million/year)? Explain how that makes sense.

They’re not paying 500 mil
They settlement would be around 150/200

Nobody said 64 wasn’t enough to fire Mike
It’s not preferable, but if it has to happen, it’ll happen

Mikes been told he has 2 years to fix this
He’ll get canned sooner (next year) if there’s not marked improvement in 2025

 

[cicero grimes]

I would really love to know the thought process that went into Day's decision to force McCord out as was rumored and bring in Howard. IMHO OSU does not lose yesterday with McCord and probably also beats Oregon. And with all that NIL $$$ why not go after Cam Ward who has been the best portal QB this season.

 

[Joey Bags]

I would really love to know the thought process that went into Day's decision to force McCord out as was rumored and bring in Howard. IMHO OSU does not lose yesterday with McCord and probably also beats Oregon. And with all that NIL $$$ why not go after Cam Ward who has been the best portal QB this season.

McCord had a good game against Miami in a bum conference. McCord has also had some BAD games this year in the same bum conference. I think there’s a better chance he goes 0 TD 3 INT playing for OSU vs UM than 3 TD 0 INT.

 

[Knight Shift]

I would really love to know the thought process that went into Day's decision to force McCord out as was rumored and bring in Howard. IMHO OSU does not lose yesterday with McCord and probably also beats Oregon. And with all that NIL $$$ why not go after Cam Ward who has been the best portal QB this season.

Saw a lot of posts like this on X



And wow

 

[Knight Shift]

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Looked up Dillingham's salary.

Dillingham's $3.95 million annual salary is 12th out of the 15 conference coaches, whose salary are public record.

Nice bonus structure

 

[rutgersguy1]

Looked up Dillingham's salary.

Dillingham's $3.95 million annual salary is 12th out of the 15 conference coaches, whose salary are public record.

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What a nice turnaround and I think first 10 win season for them since 2014. They had Herm Edwards leftover issues to deal with too and by year two he’s in the B12 title game.

On the other side of the B12 champ game is Matt Campbell who just took ISU to its first 10 win season ever. Not that long ago I said he was a solid coach and while his record may seem pedestrian, for ISU it’s very goods. A bunch of winning seasons and winning conference records and now 2 above average seasons in his tenure. They haven’t broken the bank on him either and he’s still there despite being a hot name at one time.

 

[rutgersguy1]

 

[Knight Shift]

McCord had a good game against Miami in a bum conference. McCord has also had some BAD games this year in the same bum conference. I think there’s a better chance he goes 0 TD 3 INT playing for OSU vs UM than 3 TD 0 INT.

Absolutely. Miami is crap.

They were gifted a win over Va Tech on a controversial play:



They barely beat a weak Cal team that imploded in the 4th quarter, winning 39-38.

Beat a suspect Louisville who lost to 3-9 Stanford.

Syracuse also lost to Stanford, with McCord throwing 2 INTs.

Syracuse also barely beat UConn 31-24.

Syracuse did not play to two best teams in the ACC- SMU and Clemson.

ACC is not a defensive league. Only 1 team' defense held opponents to under 20 points per game- SMU
B1G has 8 teams that held opponents to under 20 points per game.

 

[JayDogSmooth]

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Ban the flag planting nonsense today
It’s classless, bush league stuff that’s only going to lead to trouble

 

[Knight Shift]

What a nice turnaround and I think first 10 win season for them since 2014. They had Herm Edwards leftover issues to deal with too and by year two he’s in the B12 title game.

On the other side of the B12 champ game is Matt Campbell who just took ISU to its first 10 win season ever. Not that long ago I said he was a solid coach and while his record may seem pedestrian, for ISU it’s very goods. A bunch of winning seasons and winning conference records and now 2 above average seasons in his tenure. They haven’t broken the bank on him either and he’s still there despite being a hot name at one time.

Yes, Camppbell has a solid 9 year track record, with a few pedestrian 7-5 (7-6 with bowl losses) years, and one bad year in 2022. Overall 63-50 and 45-36 is good.

We obviously don't agree on Leipold, but don't see any trajectory there. Maybe it will come, but I'm not seeing it. We shall see.

Wondering if Memphis HC Ryan Silverfield gets any interest for coach openings. Solid resume, but wonder if anyone will have pause after seeing the results of the last 2 head coaches from Memphis- Mike Norvell and Justin Fuente?

2019	Memphis	0–1	0–0		L Cotton†	17	17
2020	Memphis	8–3	5–3	T–3rd	W Montgomery
2021	Memphis	6–6	3–5	T–7th	NC Hawaii
2022	Memphis	7–6	3–5	T–8th	W First Responder
2023	Memphis	10–3	6–2	4th	W Liberty
2024	Memphis	10–2	6–2	T–3rd

 

[Joey Bags]

Ban the flag planting nonsense today
It’s classless, bush league stuff that’s only going to lead to trouble

Lol teams will just eat the fine and do it anyways like with field storming

 

[gtbb3115]

I would really love to know the thought process that went into Day's decision to force McCord out as was rumored and bring in Howard. IMHO OSU does not lose yesterday with McCord and probably also beats Oregon. And with all that NIL $$$ why not go after Cam Ward who has been the best portal QB this season.

McCord was actually better. He had less of a supporting cast. His offensive line wasnt that good

 

[gtbb3115]

McCord had a good game against Miami in a bum conference. McCord has also had some BAD games this year in the same bum conference. I think there’s a better chance he goes 0 TD 3 INT playing for OSU vs UM than 3 TD 0 INT.

What? He threw for 270 and was driving for the go ahead TD against a better UMich defense last year

 

[rutgersguy1]

Yes, Camppbell has a solid 9 year track record, with a few pedestrian 7-5 (7-6 with bowl losses) years, and one bad year in 2022. Overall 63-50 and 45-36 is good.

We obviously don't agree on Leipold, but don't see any trajectory there. Maybe it will come, but I'm not seeing it. We shall see.

Wondering if Memphis HC Ryan Silverfield gets any interest for coach openings. Solid resume, but wonder if anyone will have pause after seeing the results of the last 2 head coaches from Memphis- Mike Norvell and Justin Fuente?

2019	Memphis	0–1	0–0		L Cotton†	17	17
2020	Memphis	8–3	5–3	T–3rd	W Montgomery
2021	Memphis	6–6	3–5	T–7th	NC Hawaii
2022	Memphis	7–6	3–5	T–8th	W First Responder
2023	Memphis	10–3	6–2	4th	W Liberty
2024	Memphis	10–2	6–2	T–3rd

I never see Sivlerfield’s name as far as candidates for P4 jobs. Don’t pay much attention to Memphis though but 2 10 wins seasons is a nice job.

Also with Campbell you should see how “unpedestrian” they were before his tenure. Context matters too.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Lol teams will just eat the fine and do it anyways like with field storming

Field stormings are a celebration. Flag planting does nothing but provoke and everyone including players know there’s very likely going to be a reaction. If you want to use the flag just run around the stadium and wave it. It’s trying to rub the loser’s nose in it by putting it in the logo that gets the reaction.

 

[rutgersguy1]

 

[Mufasa94]

I would really love to know the thought process that went into Day's decision to force McCord out as was rumored and bring in Howard. IMHO OSU does not lose yesterday with McCord and probably also beats Oregon. And with all that NIL $$$ why not go after Cam Ward who has been the best portal QB this season.

Agree with the wondering sentiment, but there is no evidence that McCord would consistently perform well in big games.

He’s had questionable performances in his career highlighted by an all time bad one in the Pitt-SU game this year.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Ban the flag planting nonsense today
It’s classless, bush league stuff that’s only going to lead to trouble

Ban logos at midfield too.. prevent any "disrespect" like stomping the cardinal bs accusation

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Field stormings are a celebration. Flag planting does nothing but provoke and everyone including players know there’s very likely going to be a reaction. If you want to use the flag just run around the stadium and wave it. It’s trying to rub the loser’s nose in it by putting it in the logo that gets the reaction.

fine? Make it your win turns into a forfeit loss... if it is done at any time on gameday. Before teh game, after the game, doesn't matter.

 

[Knight Shift]

I thought you said one year, now it’s gone to 2 years. That’s what I figured and wouldn’t be surprised if it was even more. Not many schools are going to be A&M.


If he turns it around no problem but if not in two years it would still be 46 million. That’s not chump change for most places especially when schools playing players is factored in and then buyouts for the entire staff and hiring a new staff comes into play.

Look FSU has it's own al.

 

[mdk01]

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Syracuse @ 25. I doubt it's possible, but any shot at a RU-Cuse bowl?

 

[rutgersguy1]

 

[rutgersguy1]

fine? Make it your win turns into a forfeit loss... if it is done at any time on gameday. Before teh game, after the game, doesn't matter.

 

[mdk01]

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And the OSU and UM alums have probably already written checks to cover them.

 

[JayDogSmooth]

Ban logos at midfield too.. prevent any "disrespect" like stomping the cardinal bs accusation

Or just don’t be a d bag and show disrespect

Michigan, Florida & NC State all pulled the flag plant bullshit - and not conciditentially, a mix of 3 of the dirtiest, classless, white trash, fake and hypocritical fanbases out there

 

[RUTGERS95]

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Bama does not belong!

 

[Rutgers Chris]

Interesting scheduling notes