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OT: New York Mets 2024-2025 Off Season Thread

It doesn’t concern Met fans that Soto hasn’t had any conversations with his former team?

 
Congrats on signing Bartolo Colon Jr.

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Bartolo Colon had a long and very successful career. It would be nice if Soto continues to do well into his 40s. Maybe that is why the Yankees also offered him ~$760 million.
 
8 takes precedence IMO. It's been unofficially retired for over 20 years.
I am surprised Gary was never retired officially. I do think Beltran should also join the list.
For that matter- number 3 should be retired as well. Buddy was the player that made me a lifetime Met fan.
 
You are the one making assumptions. Your original statement implied that it is his doing that he didn't speak to his previous teams.
Same thing went down in San Diego with him.

We will see how it all plays out, but clubhouse issues or not, 765 for a DH is an insane overpay.

In the battle of NY, Yanks are winning the offseason so far IMO.

You will enjoy watching some of Soto’s bombs though, unless you get San Diego Soto, then enjoy watching a pull hitter.
 
Same thing went down in San Diego with him.

We will see how it all plays out, but clubhouse issues or not, 765 for a DH is an insane overpay.

In the battle of NY, Yanks are winning the offseason so far IMO.

You will enjoy watching some of Soto’s bombs though, unless you get San Diego Soto, then enjoy watching a pull hitter.
I guess you are just a Mets and Soto hater.
 
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Same thing went down in San Diego with him.

We will see how it all plays out, but clubhouse issues or not, 765 for a DH is an insane overpay.

In the battle of NY, Yanks are winning the offseason so far IMO.

You will enjoy watching some of Soto’s bombs though, unless you get San Diego Soto, then enjoy watching a pull hitter.
Rub dirt on it and move on.
 
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I guess you are just a Mets and Soto hater.
LOL no. I’m a Dodger hater. I said all of this before free agency.

I’ve told every Yankee/Met fan I know before FA that Soto would be a mistake.

If you’ve actually watched a full baseball season of Soto, there is absolutely no possible way you could say he’s anything more than a bat.

He’s a below average defender and a below average base runner. He has a good bat and hits some absolute moonshots, but also inflates his OBP with walks in key spots that you want him to swing the bat.

You’ll see what I’m talking about next season.
 
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LOL no. I’m a Dodger hater. I said all of this before free agency.

I’ve told every Yankee/Met fan I know before FA that Soto would be a mistake.

If you’ve actually watched a full baseball season of Soto, there is absolutely no possible way you could say he’s anything more than a bat.

He’s a below average defender and a below average base runner. He has a good bat and hits some absolute moonshots, but also inflates his OBP with walks in key spots that you want him to swing the bat.

You’ll see what I’m talking about next season.
Did you say any of this when Soto was a Padre?
 
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I am surprised Gary was never retired officially. I do think Beltran should also join the list.
For that matter- number 3 should be retired as well. Buddy was the player that made me a lifetime Met fan.
I don't see 3 being retired, and 15 is unlikely IMO. Both numbers are very much in circulation and were worn last year by Winker and Taylor.

The only non-retired numbers that are informally out of circulation are 7 and 8.
 
Did you say any of this when Soto was a Padre?
Yes, when Soto was a Padre, myself and all other SD fans laughed when he won a gold glove.

Ask @colbert17 what his thoughts were on Soto. He wanted us to move him ASAP. I actually wanted us to hang onto him for his contract year, but absolutely never would have wanted him for 765.

I don’t want to speak for Colbert, but he made several comments about his HRs coming during meaningless ABs IIRC.

The coolest thing about Soto as a Padre was that it signified the franchise actually was going for it. So tip your hat to the Mets org for that for sure.

Looking back on everything:

1. I would have wanted the Soto/Nats trade to happen again. Sucks we lost Abrams and Wood, but there wasn’t a roster spot for those guys anyways. (Merrill and Tatis/X/Kim).

2. I think the Padres won the trade with the Yankees. Higgy was great for us at a position of need, moved on from Grish, King was legit as well).

3. No way in hell we were giving him 700+ so wouldn’t have been here long term anyways.

Plus now that all the dust has settled, Tatis was not Tatis with Soto around. He just wasn’t. The second Soto left, Tatis became the premier young superstar for the team and I think that helped Nando quite a bit.
 
Yes, when Soto was a Padre, myself and all other SD fans laughed when he won a gold glove.

Ask @colbert17 what his thoughts were on Soto. He wanted us to move him ASAP. I actually wanted us to hang onto him for his contract year, but absolutely never would have wanted him for 765.

I don’t want to speak for Colbert, but he made several comments about his HRs coming during meaningless ABs IIRC.

The coolest thing about Soto as a Padre was that it signified the franchise actually was going for it. So tip your hat to the Mets org for that for sure.

Looking back on everything:

1. I would have wanted the Soto/Nats trade to happen again. Sucks we lost Abrams and Wood, but there wasn’t a roster spot for those guys anyways. (Merrill and Tatis/X/Kim).

2. I think the Padres won the trade with the Yankees. Higgy was great for us at a position of need, moved on from Grish, King was legit as well).

3. No way in hell we were giving him 700+ so wouldn’t have been here long term anyways.

Plus now that all the dust has settled, Tatis was not Tatis with Soto around. He just wasn’t. The second Soto left, Tatis became the premier young superstar for the team and I think that helped Nando quite a bit.
The Padres have trouble meeting their payroll responsibilities. That's the big reason they traded Soto to get something in return.
 
Don't get mad at me. I didn't make him eat that much. Also, big speculation that Soto is actually a "Dominican Republic" 26 years old, which means closer to 30. Enjoy!
Funny enough, Colon may be a better post season hitter than some 6ft7 body of steal that is the new Mr. May
 
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The Padres have trouble meeting their payroll responsibilities. That's the big reason they traded Soto to get something in return.
Still could have moved him at a later date and been totally fine.

The Soto move was to get the most value out of him now because they knew they weren’t going to sign him long term.

It wasn’t a desperation move.
 
I don't see 3 being retired, and 15 is unlikely IMO. Both numbers are very much in circulation and were worn last year by Winker and Taylor.

The only non-retired numbers that are informally out of circulation are 7 and 8.
Lots of players belong in the Mets Hall of Fame. Cohen recognizes this. The Wilpons didn't. They were distracted by their daydreams of Brooklyn, Ebbets Field, Sandy Kofax and the Dodgers. But Buddy's in there. We need to be more selective, however, with retired numbers.

P.s., can we set up a separate Padres thread?
 
Now that Cubs have traded for Kyle Tucker, Mets should trade Marte for Bellinger. Bellinger has more upside and only 1 more year on his contract.
 
I am surprised Gary was never retired officially. I do think Beltran should also join the list.
For that matter- number 3 should be retired as well. Buddy was the player that made me a lifetime Met fan.
No.
 
I’d say $100 a person
Parking food memorabilia and the higher and lower ticket prices all combine to a easy number to calculate with $100

The big number is playoff home game$$

42,000 x’s $250 ? $300 ? Average face value ticket price for a playoff game. $250 is a nice round number

42,000 x $250 = $10,500,000 just in tickets

Burnes winning games 1 and 4 in the 1st playoff series
Pays off his $30 million contract.

Cohen is a Mets fan but a money man too.
Money people like him know the risk but also know how much 4-5-6 8 home playoff games are worth.
 
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The money you guys are talking about is a pittance compared to his overall worth. Sure he wants more gate money, concessions and merchandise money but the only money number that matters is that 3rd cap level and honestly I don't think he even cares that much about that except for the draft penalties that come with it.
 
I’d say $100 a person
Parking food memorabilia and the higher and lower ticket prices all combine to a easy number to calculate with $100

The big number is playoff home game$$

42,000 x’s $250 ? $300 ? Average face value ticket price for a playoff game. $250 is a nice round number

42,000 x $250 = $10,500,000 just in tickets

Burnes winning games 1 and 4 in the 1st playoff series
Pays off his $30 million contract.

Cohen is a Mets fan but a money man too.
Money people like him know the risk but also know how much 4-5-6 8 home playoff games are worth.
Can you use the reply button? Helps in seeing if there is a response.

Saw this on my CNBC news feed:

"“Juan Soto’s performance levels in Citi Field are well known to him,” Boras said. “He plays at his highest level of performance and players think about execution. You think about all these factors.”

In Soto’s 35 games at Citi Field, the left-handed hitter scored 12 home runs, 26 RBIs and had an on-base percentage of .466 and .709 slugging.

His longest home run of his career, 466 feet, came at Citi Field on Aug. 12, 2020.

Boras also shared that it was not all about the money for the 26-year-old player.

“When you’re an athlete, you think about all things, but you primarily also think about your routine, your performance,” Boras said. “There’s vastly more things than the economics.”

Speaking at his introductory press conference, Soto said the Mets had treated him like family.

They showed me a lot of love on the standpoint of what they have and how they’re going to try to make it comfortable. That’s one of the things that impressed me more, and how they’re going to treat everybody around me and my family,” Soto said.

 
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Can you use the reply button? Helps in seeing if there is a response.

Saw this on my CNBC news feed:

"“Juan Soto’s performance levels in Citi Field are well known to him,” Boras said. “He plays at his highest level of performance and players think about execution. You think about all these factors.”

In Soto’s 35 games at Citi Field, the left-handed hitter scored 12 home runs, 26 RBIs and had an on-base percentage of .466 and .709 slugging.

His longest home run of his career, 466 feet, came at Citi Field on Aug. 12, 2020.

Boras also shared that it was not all about the money for the 26-year-old player.

“When you’re an athlete, you think about all things, but you primarily also think about your routine, your performance,” Boras said. “There’s vastly more things than the economics.”

Speaking at his introductory press conference, Soto said the Mets had treated him like family.

They showed me a lot of love on the standpoint of what they have and how they’re going to try to make it comfortable. That’s one of the things that impressed me more, and how they’re going to treat everybody around me and my family,” Soto said.

Scherzer and Verlander said something similar.
 
I see so many Yankees fans posts and think they're like the guy who got on his knee and offered his girlfriend an engagement ring and she said no thank you and now he says I never really liked her that much anyway,lmfao.
 
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