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OT: New York Mets 2024-2025 Off Season Thread
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are you speaking of Beltran? Team should have actually stood behind him- Bosox hung with Cora. Hell, Yankee fans are even hoping to sign other guys that stole signs...just saying
As a Met player- Beltran was just a step ahead of almost anyone else we have had. It is also one of the reasons I want to keep Pete here- For a franchise that has been around 60 years- the fact we do not have a single player with impressive Met numbers is embarrassing.
We have no Met with 1000 runs or RBI- only one guy over 250 HR
In Beltran's stay here- he is pretty much top 10 in every category
Why do I get the feeling the Mets won the Soto battle, but appears to be on the verge of losing the war. I know most of you have faith in Stearns, but I think his approach is built around the Milwaukee (& Wilpons) cheapness. I'm not sure he works well with money to burn. Wasn't it Cohen who push the Soto deal across the line! I have that sinking feeling Stearns loves reclamation projects more than paying proven players. That works for conservative teams with limited resources, but not for teams with deep pockets and championship aspirations.
I feel the same way. Stearns doesn't want to be said he won because of unlimited spending ability.
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If I were to bet:
1. Alonso comes back
2. We sign Tanner scott.
2. We get the Japanese pitcher
3. McNeil is traded (we pay down some of the contract)
4. We resign winker and have a Marte/Winker platoon at DH.
5. Acuña is the 2b.
6. Jett Williams is in CF by mid year.
Where did Scherzer and Verlander get us? We certainly don't have buyers remorse with DeGrom. IDEALLY - what you want is to develop your own pitching pipelines, like the Mets of the 80's did.
If I were to bet:
1. Alonso comes back
2. We sign Tanner scott.
2. We get the Japanese pitcher
3. McNeil is traded (we pay down some of the contract)
4. We resign winker and have a Marte/Winker platoon at DH.
5. Acuña is the 2b.
6. Jett Williams is in CF by mid year.
I’m fine with the reclamation projects for pitching for the most part, and especially using short-term deals wherever possible. It seems unless the pitcher is an absolute stud, they wind up being a total crap shoot, with injuries galore, often alternating between great seasons and total crap. However, I don’t feel the same way about the everyday players, and hope we figure this infield issue out soon. I’d rather Bregman at 3rd and Vientos to 1st and lose Pete. I fear Pete’s trending down (as is Bregman) but he’s overweight and not the fielder Bregman is. I expect Pete to spiral quickly when it happens.
my gut is also telling me that Pete comes back. I won't let myself get sucked into hoping for another Japanese player, when he will end up with the Dodgers. If we could trade McNeil and Acuna is the real deal at 2B- would love it. Bring Winker back and platoon with Marte should be a no brainer. - but the real key is Pete- I don't care what anyone says but our lineup with him looks so much different then what we have without him
Both marte and winker play RF as well, and can give Soto a few days off from the field at DH.
It is interesting when I hear people talk about Pete either being fat or overweight. And yet, watching him this past year, he looked to be in the best shape I have ever seen him. I don't see the "fat" on him anymore- he is just a big guy.
Bregman -sure, better fielder but since 2020 Bregman's best year really wasn't as good as Pete's worst year...just saying
No offense but this is a dumb comment with no basis in reality.
So, I guess the Rutgers Screw falls under the same thing? 😉
When you experience heartbreak so often, it consumes you at times.
It seems like a lot of fans need to understand that the Cohen era Mets are not going to be like anything you experienced in the past in regards to this franchise. It is a new era. Cohen said it himself that he needs to change their perception of the organization. So much has already happened behind the scenes and out in the open that proves that point. We're building a top flight organization here with smart people in charge all over. Enjoy the success that will come.
I hear you, but decades of experiencing Rutgers sports and the Mets under the Wilpons will do major damage to you psyche. Change doesn't come instantly. 🥺
There is always a bit of doubt until it actually happens.
Gun to my head, I say no. I think somebody else will show him more love. Or maybe more money, I get those two confused.
I get the sense that Stearns just isn't all that into him. He's a 30 year old single-tool player who plays the least valued position on the field.
Granted, his one tool is really important.
Yo yo yo , I played first base and my SS and 3B don’t get full rides to college if they have 10 plus throwing errors on their resume. Plus if Keith Hernandez is playing 1B in 2015, Mets win another World Series
Runner in 9th inning of World Series was out by 15 feet with good throw
I stand by my statement. At the MLB level, first base is the least valued position on the field. That is not my opinion, it is the consensus opinion.
I get your point. Good defense at every position is important. But some positions are more important than others. One of them has to be at the bottom. If not first base, then which?
what I'd like to see
1. Corbin Burnes
2. Pete Alonso
3. Tanner Scott
4. Roki Sasaki
5. Trade Brett Baty, Jett Williams, Kevin Parada, David Peterson for Luis Castillo
6. Jesse Winker
7. DH up for grabs, ideally won by Mauricio, and Acuna playing regularly at 2B & OF
This could be true but Pete also knows what he has here. I'm not sure the Yankees are showing much love and where else may be? Washington? Seattle?
So- let's say Pete signs here- he is going to be in the same $$$ ballpark as anywhere else. But- he will play his career for a city that loves him, end up the team's alltime leader in HR/RBI have his number retired, etc...and advertising money
The other places- he becomes just another power hitting 1B that ends up with decent numbers but most likely never loved like he is here and since he would be splitting his career up- he doesnt get a number retired anywhere.
I agree...Let's take Keith Hernandez. He may not only be the greatest fielding 1B ever but one of the greatest fielders at any position ever.
And yet- a guy like Ozzy Smith makes the HOF 100% based on his fielding.
They have done nothing to make me think they’re not trying to sign 2-3-4 additional big players ,but I’m really not excited by trying to build best AAAA team in the league. Mets trying to find the next Iglesias ?
I don't see the issue with signing a bunch of these guys to minor league contracts. If strike oil on one or two of them, then it was a success. I'm sure Stearns can multi-task and talk to agents for big time free agents and sign people to minor league contracts at the same time.
Number 5 is insane for just Castillo. Jett Williams is close to untouchable as well.
Mariners aren't looking to just dump him, they are looking for guys that they can insert into their active roster. You're bringing in a legit #1/#2 All-Star starter with 4 seasons of control at a reasonable price and competing with the likes of the Red Sox, Cubs, Yankees, Orioles to get him, so you'll have to be able to put up a package that can compete.
Is Jett really close to untouchable??? but not sure Stearns would give away 3 guys that high in our system and a good starting pitcher who is cheap for a guy making a lot of money. And if we signed Burnes- very much less of a chance Stearns would do that.
If Seattle expects that much, the Mets should look elsewhere.
he has a big contract- not sure how that is under control. Heck- we have JS under control for the next 15 lol
Pete may not possess multiple skills, but he does something the Mets don't have and need if Cohen wants to remake the image of the organization. One, he is a home grown star and carried the team at times. Now, we ready to kick him to the curb? Two, someone who wants to be here and thrives in the belly of the beast known as NYC. Pete is good enough not to take away from the team. Pete isn't the '86 version of George Foster on his last leg.
Pump the brakes on Peterson. He may be a more consistent pitcher than Castillo right now. And let's not drain the minor leagues for a pitcher Castillo who is not an ace. How about the Mets move Marte?
