OT - NO Transit Strike
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They should fire all of them and put non-union workers in. There is no reason for train workers to be unionized.
As in the equipment they use to make announcements?
Its not the equipment, it is the complete lack of information when there is an issue... last week I got an email that my train was cancelled a half hour after it was cancelled. Unless they are using pony express to communicate, this should not happen and it does all too often
Do you believe there is, or for that matter ever was, any reason for any workers to be unionized?
4 days away. Haven't heard anything about likelihood of a settlement. NJT put out notices this morning to Hoboken bus riders that buses won't go into Port Authority if there's a strike, it will just loop around town to drop people off at the PATH.
Apparently health insurance is the main sticking point. Here's the report from the group in DC that tried to arbitrate:
https://storage.googleapis.com/dakota-dev-content/PEB-249-Report.pdf
The union proposed paying 2.5% of health insurance costs with a hard cap on increases. NJT wants them to pay 10% for HMO and 20% for PPO. The LIRR contract the Washington arbitrators looked to sets a 2.6% payment. It's also a contract that basically told riders and taxpayers to drop their pants and bend over.
I wouldn't be surprised if the union strikes to ratchet up the pressure on NJ Transit. And while 10% is a real stretch and 20% ain't going to happen, 2.5% is absurd.
https://storage.googleapis.com/dakota-dev-content/PEB-249-Report.pdf
The union proposed paying 2.5% of health insurance costs with a hard cap on increases. NJT wants them to pay 10% for HMO and 20% for PPO. The LIRR contract the Washington arbitrators looked to sets a 2.6% payment. It's also a contract that basically told riders and taxpayers to drop their pants and bend over.
I wouldn't be surprised if the union strikes to ratchet up the pressure on NJ Transit. And while 10% is a real stretch and 20% ain't going to happen, 2.5% is absurd.
I agree...and the union is going to get the brunt of the grief for it whether deserved or not.
It's maddening to see how badly NJT management runs their operation and is never held accountable in specific situations like this or from a broader standpoint (not withstanding the public/medias constant complaints...which essentially does nothing towards them actually making any changes).
NJT management certainly has it's issues, but what NJT rider or New Jersey taxpayer would willingly accept a hard cap on employee health insurance contributions? You can argue over who should get the most grief, but the union certainly deserves it's share.
They want to pay a lot less than everyone else in the state, including other state and union workers.
Once upon a time they were useful. Not now. The legal system has plenty of safeguards for employees.
Unions are anachronisms and serve only as cesspools for corruption and protecting incompetent and lazy workers. Going on strike and hindering thousands of working people from going to work and supporting their families is wrong. If they strike, I hope that the union is broken and we never have to deal with this crap again.
If they were smart, they probably did and gave him an RU Basketball contract at the same time.
I feel your pain. What about working from home during the strike? Do you all have to be in the office to do your job?
All I can say is Im happy there is no strike and that Christie was able to spend some more time out of the state on a well deserved vacation from his job - whatever that is.
You mean Christie who said himself that he wanted no part in dealing with the negotiation, kept out if it while watching baseball games, and then takes credit for it afterwards?
You mean, the same person everyone was blaming for the situation and would have gotten killed if there was a strike? Yeah, that person now gets the credit. Can't have it both ways. And as per reports, Christie was deeply involved for the past 2 weeks.
LMAO...
Crispy said he was going to campaign for Hair Fuhrer in Florida during the strike.There is ZERO evidence of any involvement by him. He is responsible because he raided the transportation fund and refuses to do anything to fix it.
He has totally abdicated his duties. The only thing he has done is try to pack the state Supreme Court while the economy lags every surrounding state.
If Christie is so great, why does he have a 27% approval rating, nearly every major local paper and even some Republicans demanding his resignation?
9 credit downgrades maybe? Sandy victims still homeless with their money given to cronies like candy? His clear direct involvement in the bridge lane closure with multiple appointees indicted, waiting to be indicted, and the fact that he will, if the names are released, be listed as a co-conspirator in the entire plot?
Could it be the endorsement of fascist, racist, corrupt pig who 1) said Christie was behind the bridge lane closure 2) participated in the destruction of Atlantic City and 3) accused "thousands and thousands" New Jerseyans of celebrating 9/11 on a tape no one else has seen, when in fact, we suffered among the most?
Good thing Christie is 300+ lbs so Trump's campaign manager can't assault him too. But I guess Trump limits his assaults to actual conservatives, and not people who join government so they can dole out jobs to their high school baseball team's statistician.
He is by far the worst governor NJ has ever had.
Crispy said he was going to campaign for Hair Fuhrer in Florida during the strike.There is ZERO evidence of any involvement by him. He is responsible because he raided the transportation fund and refuses to do anything to fix it.
He has totally abdicated his duties. The only thing he has done is try to pack the state Supreme Court while the economy lags every surrounding state.
If Christie is so great, why does he have a 27% approval rating, nearly every major local paper and even some Republicans demanding his resignation?
9 credit downgrades maybe? Sandy victims still homeless with their money given to cronies like candy? His clear direct involvement in the bridge lane closure with multiple appointees indicted, waiting to be indicted, and the fact that he will, if the names are released, be listed as a co-conspirator in the entire plot?
Could it be the endorsement of fascist, racist, corrupt pig who 1) said Christie was behind the bridge lane closure 2) participated in the destruction of Atlantic City and 3) accused "thousands and thousands" New Jerseyans of celebrating 9/11 on a tape no one else has seen, when in fact, we suffered among the most?
Good thing Christie is 300+ lbs so Trump's campaign manager can't assault him too. But I guess Trump limits his assaults to actual conservatives, and not people who join government so they can dole out jobs to their high school baseball team's statistician.
He is by far the worst governor NJ has ever had.
Good job by CC. As T2k said, you can't have it both ways. I heard a conductor blasting CC on my train the other day. Now that there's no strike I suspect he'll give CC no credit. Very bizarre, irrational behavior imo. CC is the best governor since Tom Kean which I know isn't saying a whole lot
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For the sake of those around you, get on some medication. You are a nut job. "Hair Führer" ? For the love of Christ
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"Clear direct involvement" rotflmao !!! You must be one of those looney tune Bridgers on the SLEB who have spent the last 2 years with their own laughable version of Spotlight trying to prove just that. They remind me of the cartoon character that takes of dive into an empty pool
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mdk you have this wrong. The union proposed paying 2.5% of their salary towards health care not paying 2.5% of the premium.
$600,000 spent by Governor 9 Credit Downgrades on his run to hand the President to a fascist so he can continue to rob the state blind.
I guess it's conservative to take the state's money and use it to fund personal ambitions when you have an (R) next to your name.
Also don't ride NJT please. It's run by the government and therefore socialism and therefore evil.
Just do what Governor Slob does and ride on a jet courtesy of the NJ Taxpayer or the King of Jordan, whose name he forgets.
Oh and I'm sure when Christie called Cuomo demanding he stop asking questions about the bridge it was just to talk Cowboys football?
You are the kind of person wrong with everything in this country. You will support any Republican even if they are not conservative, just because they are Republican. Christie is a disaster who has used our tax money to fund his personal ambitions and retaliate against his enemies, including but not limited to, Marco Rubio, a Republican prosecutor from Hunterdon County who investigated his cronies, and Republican mayors and legislators throughout NJ who dared to buck him.
And we are now up 7 NJ newspapers demanding his resignation...
27% approval rating shows your delusion.
Christie campaigned with Trump yesterday instead of attending the funeral of a NJ state trooper killed in the line of duty.
And I misspoke, he has billed the taxpayers over 1M and counting for traveling including campaigning for a fascist while he has a 27% approval rating.
That's without touching the 10M on a sham investigation where his lawyers were reprimanded by a Republican judge for destroying notes, 24M on a sham election so he didn't have to run the same day as Booker, 30M+ on a giveaway settlement to Exxon in a quid pro quo to the Republican Governors Association which will leave the taxpayers on the hook for untold millions in cleanup...and David Samson hasn't even been indicted yet and the millions in shenanigans he cost the state at Christie's behest have yet to be counted.
Christie gives out millions of our money like he gives out 9/11 melted steel and Sandy money to his cronies.
The truth is painful!
And I misspoke, he has billed the taxpayers over 1M and counting for traveling including campaigning for a fascist while he has a 27% approval rating.
That's without touching the 10M on a sham investigation where his lawyers were reprimanded by a Republican judge for destroying notes, 24M on a sham election so he didn't have to run the same day as Booker, 30M+ on a giveaway settlement to Exxon in a quid pro quo to the Republican Governors Association which will leave the taxpayers on the hook for untold millions in cleanup...and David Samson hasn't even been indicted yet and the millions in shenanigans he cost the state at Christie's behest have yet to be counted.
Christie gives out millions of our money like he gives out 9/11 melted steel and Sandy money to his cronies.
The truth is painful!
Just wait until y'all see what comes after Christie. A rape and pillage democrat will make us wish Christie was back in office. The only people who'll benefit will be the parasite unions and their "workers".
Having said that, Christie has many faults and has really ruined his legacy. Hot start, ice cold finish.
Having said that, Christie has many faults and has really ruined his legacy. Hot start, ice cold finish.
Nice, looks like the scumbag union got everything they wanted and they just punted the fare hike to next year. That stupid worthless POS Christie can't do anything right. They should just execute the entire union membership.
Christie has pillaged the state's financials worse that any governor in the state's history. He literally gave away millions to his cronies, be they Gibson Dunn, mayors from both parties he intimidated, David Samson, David Wildstein, Exxon...the list goes on and on.
And he continues to bill the taxpayer while he attempts to elect a fascist President. And misses State Trooper funerals in the process.
The only union Christie took issue with is the teachers. The Port Authority Union got a massive raise on the backs of tolls and fares.
You have to remember with Christie- he's not pro union or anti union, conservative or liberal. He's pro Christie ONLY. If Kim Jong Un would say nice things about him, Pyongyang would get some 9/11 remnant metal and Sandy funds and his lawyers would be hired at taxpayer expense to write how nice he was, and destroy the notes.
And he continues to bill the taxpayer while he attempts to elect a fascist President. And misses State Trooper funerals in the process.
The only union Christie took issue with is the teachers. The Port Authority Union got a massive raise on the backs of tolls and fares.
You have to remember with Christie- he's not pro union or anti union, conservative or liberal. He's pro Christie ONLY. If Kim Jong Un would say nice things about him, Pyongyang would get some 9/11 remnant metal and Sandy funds and his lawyers would be hired at taxpayer expense to write how nice he was, and destroy the notes.
The unions got pretty much everything they asked for. That 's how the state got into trouble in the first place by accepting whatever the unions demanded. The commuters that cry for a resolution should be paying for the agreement and the state shouldn't contribute anymore. Unions know that governments can not hold out due to the cries of the public.
Christie doesn't care what it cost. He doesn't have to worry about balancing the budget anymore, it's the problem for the next governor. He wants to work for Trump. This is how the budgets gets screwed up,
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Christie sticks it to the taxpayer every chance he gets. Look at what he gave to the Port Authority, on the backs of commuters.
Christie's shtick has worn through. He was never against unions. He was just for yelling a teachers making 40-50k a year and pretending that they were the cause of 9 credit downgrades, instead of spending like a drunken sailor on investigations that were destroyed, elections that never should have happened, and Sandy money giveaways to benefactors.
He has now tied 9 credit downgrades with 9 NJ newspapers demanding he resign. Of course, this doesn't include NYC and Philly papers and a NH paper revoking its endorsement.
He is likely the most hated governor in America. 27% approval is Dubya and Bobby Jindal bad.
Christie's shtick has worn through. He was never against unions. He was just for yelling a teachers making 40-50k a year and pretending that they were the cause of 9 credit downgrades, instead of spending like a drunken sailor on investigations that were destroyed, elections that never should have happened, and Sandy money giveaways to benefactors.
He has now tied 9 credit downgrades with 9 NJ newspapers demanding he resign. Of course, this doesn't include NYC and Philly papers and a NH paper revoking its endorsement.
He is likely the most hated governor in America. 27% approval is Dubya and Bobby Jindal bad.
