OT: Official 2021 NY Mets Season Thread

[yesrutgers01]

Guillorme up = Blankenhorn down
Almora up = Williams down
McNeil up = Drury down
Conforto up = Almora down
Nimmo up = maybe carry an extra bench player and go with 13 pitchers?

This makes sense. And what a great place to be in...having to make tough decisions when you are bringing back .300 hitters .400 OBP and 25-35 HR guys...
The 5 guys coming off injury would be one of our best lineups in decades and the backups have kicked ass

 

[rurahrah000]

Pillar is turning into the clubhouse leader that this team desperately needed. All of a sudden this team looks like it has the making of something special.

 

[Andy117]

If Baltimore DFA'd Harvey, should the Mets go after him? Darling pointed out how Harvey made changes to his delivery, which has impacted his ability to pitch successfully. He still has nice velo on hit pitches, and he can't be any worse than Peterson. I'm looking at from that standpoint of Mets need starters over the next month.

No. He looks done as a starter. He should probably try to reinvent himself as a reliever. Air it out for 1 inning and maybe there's something there.

 

[rurahrah000]

No. He looks done as a starter. He should probably try to reinvent himself as a reliever. Air it out for 1 inning and maybe there's something there.

I could see him becoming a closer.

 

[willisneverrana43]

Yeah, just like magic.

 

[RUfinally2008]

5-4 road trip (with 4 in SD) = good

Exactly what I said the day before the trip started.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Exactly what I said the day before the trip started.

I believe pretty much all of us would have signed for it!... Hoping to go 5-2 in these next 7 but if we go 4-3, I will not be too upset. Need 3-1 in Washington before 5-3 or 6-2 against Phi/Atl

Just keep plugging away and not lose any of these next few series coming up

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Lots of home games coming up the rest of this month. 16 in total. Hope to go at minimum 11-5 or 10-6 in those while holding our own in the 7 road games with the Nats and Braves sandwiched in before July starts.

 

[FrankZ]

Can officially file Wheeler in the stup' bin.

 

[nutfromSEC117]

Good to know former met single handedly keeping Phillies pitching staff together
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[Doctor Worm]

I was shocked when the Phillies offered Wheeler $118M over 5 years. Turns out they got a bargain.

Wheeler really made a quantum leap over the last couple of years. On the Mets, he was a high pitch count guy who maybe could get you through six. Now he is an innings eater at the highest level. He doesn't just eat innings, he swallows them whole.

 

[FrankZ]

Looks like they could use some trumpets

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Phillies closer Neris just blew a save with a game-tying home run to Fred Freeman in the 9th. I was tasting a 4 game lead with 7 in the loss column.

 

[nutfromSEC117]

Survive the week from hell and run away with this division

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Braves two in the top of the 10th courtesy of 3 walks and a wild pitch by our favorite fat ass, Alavarado. Phils then win it with 3 in the bottom of the 10th. Love it when it's somebody else's bullpen.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

I was shocked when the Phillies offered Wheeler $118M over 5 years. Turns out they got a bargain.

Wheeler really made a quantum leap over the last couple of years. On the Mets, he was a high pitch count guy who maybe could get you through six. Now he is an innings eater at the highest level. He doesn't just eat innings, he swallows them whole.

The biggest change for Wheeler was he stopped trying to pinpoint every pitch. He's pitching to contact, but it's weak contact. This allows him to go deeper in games. Still, he can get strikeouts somehow.

 

[FrankZ]

Alright, can't quibble with still being up 3.5 games. Need deGrom to do deGrom things, and be able to like score for him.

 

[Doctor Worm]

Corey Oswalt got his first start of the season tonight at Syracuse. He pitched three innings and allowed only one hit, which unfortunately was a two run homer. I suspect they'll stretch him out a little further next week, and then we'll see him sometime in doubleheader week.

Luis Guillorme went the full nine for the second night in a row. I expect we'll see him tomorrow or Saturday.

Albert Almora took a DNP. I assume this was planned, and not some sort of setback.

 

[willisneverrana43]

(Thought I’d post this here.). Must see TV tonight: deGrom v the Padres and Snell.

It may not be sustainable for an entire year, but what deGrom has been doing for the first 1/3 of this season is remarkable. Possibly no one in the history of the game has been as good as he is right now.

.062 ERA. The ERA of the next closest guy is essentially double that.

All teams combined have scored 4 earned runs off him all year. Just four.

93 Ks in 58 innings (14.4 Ks per 9 innings) with only 8 walks. Nolan Ryan never struck out hitters at anything close to that rate, and he’d sometimes walk 8 guys in a game.

Opponents are hitting. 128 off him.

His walks plus hits per inning pitched is ,58, which is unheard of. That means in an average 9 inning game, only 5 guys even reach base.

He throws gas, hits the black and corners, has a nasty slider and change-up and a big curve that he hardly throws anymore because his other stuff works so well. He works at it and doesn’t showboat. Right now he’s Cy Young Spahn Koufax.

He may turn human any day now, but if you’re a sports fan you should try to watch him pitch at least one game because right now he’s doing something the game has never seen before..

 

[RUfinally2008]

Is there another sport that can change the ball year in year out? https://metsmerizedonline.com/2021/06/pete-alonso-calls-out-mlb-for-manipulating-baseballs.html/

 

[cicero grimes]

These next three weeks may determine the season. Let's hope Jake gets us off to a good start tonight.

 

[Knight Shift]

Mets’ Jacob deGrom likely to face scrutiny after viral video

Jacob deGrom’s movements between pitches Friday might be scrutinized more than usual, after a video went viral in recent days of the Mets right-hander going to his belt before a pitch and touching …

nypost.com

 

[yesrutgers01]

To be honest- I wouldn't doubt that Jake may use something to get a grip as just about every pitchers seems to be doing this year. I also think that the use of the sticky stuff is way up this year as pitchers just can't grip the laces since MLB lowered them so much this year.
But...No sticky stuff in the world helps a pitcher have 30+ 100+ pitches in a single game. Just his luck though, he may give up 6 hits and 2-3 runs over 7 innings tonight and everyone will point to his "horrible" game as proof. lol

BTW- never really seen Jake ever even remotely look like he has been usuing anything over the years. You would think that someone would have gone through game films and find all the times he reached into his belt previously...

 

[tico brown]

NOBODY NATIONALLY said a word about Yu Darvish going to his glove before every pitch last week. But yet everyone wants to be the first to catch deGrom.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

NOBODY NATIONALLY said a word about Yu Darvish going to his glove before every pitch last week. But yet everyone wants to be the first to catch deGrom.

Darvish saw a big jump in his spin rate a few years back after looking like a journeyman pitcher. Then, suddenly, he became one of the better pitchers in all of baseball. deGrom has been consistent since Frank Viola talked up deGrom when he was in the minors. Viola said deGrom brings the heat every pitch, but the biggest difference between deGrom and most pitchers is his ability to control where he wants to throw the ball. Viola said he's the closest thing to Greg Maddox and Tom Glavine when it comes to pinpointing his pitches' location. This goes back to 2012 when deGrom played for single-A Savannah.

There is little evidence to show deGrom is doctoring the ball. However, his spin rate is average, and he's been consistent in all other areas of his pitching. deGrom is being grouped in with pitchers who are flamethrowers but can't pitch. Those guys need the advantage to stay in the league. They will do whatever it takes. Pillar will tell you about that.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

I wonder if we need to try to make a move on a starting pitcher soon with the gauntlet of games ahead leading into the all-star break. Don't want to see much of Peterson.

 

[Knight Shift]

Umpires are now allowed to check the pitchers, right? Life imitating art?

 

[yesrutgers01]

Darvish saw a big jump in his spin rate a few years back after looking like a journeyman pitcher. Then, suddenly, he became one of the better pitchers in all of baseball. deGrom has been consistent since Frank Viola talked up deGrom when he was in the minors. Viola said deGrom brings the heat every pitch, but the biggest difference between deGrom and most pitchers is his ability to control where he wants to throw the ball. Viola said he's the closest thing to Greg Maddox and Tom Glavine when it comes to pinpointing his pitches' location. This goes back to 2012 when deGrom played for single-A Savannah.

There is little evidence to show deGrom is doctoring the ball. However, his spin rate is average, and he's been consistent in all other areas of his pitching. deGrom is being grouped in with pitchers who are flamethrowers but can't pitch. Those guys need the advantage to stay in the league. They will do whatever it takes. Pillar will tell you about that.

I never looked it up before but you are right, found a chart that puts his curve and fastball spin rates as average.

 

[RUfinally2008]

NOBODY NATIONALLY said a word about Yu Darvish going to his glove before every pitch last week. But yet everyone wants to be the first to catch deGrom.

Let them knock themselves the fork out trying to determine where deGrom gets his greatness from, lol.

 

[Zak57]

Mets reclaim RHP Nick Tropeano.

Put Tommy Hunter on the 60 Day IL.

Rough estimates: the Mets expect to have Jeff McNeil back from the injured list next weekend and Michael Conforto potentially the weekend after that, per general manager Zack Scott.

Carlos Carrasco (torn right hamstring) received a PRP injection in his leg because he wasn't able to strengthen it the way he wanted. That's why he's refraining from throwing right now.

 

[FrankZ]

Bye Blank’y

 

[Zak57]

Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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Upon receiving a second opinion from an Ohio-based hand surgeon, Brandon Nimmo learned he is not dealing with a nerve issue but actually a small ligament tear near the base of his left index finger. It should heal on its own; Nimmo hopes to restart a rehab assignment next week.

 

[Ronnie_B]

Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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Upon receiving a second opinion from an Ohio-based hand surgeon, Brandon Nimmo learned he is not dealing with a nerve issue but actually a small ligament tear near the base of his left index finger. It should heal on its own; Nimmo hopes to restart a rehab assignment next week.

Why do the Mets medical staffs always have so much trouble dealing with injuries?

 

[cubuffsdoug]

Why do the Mets medical staffs always have so much trouble dealing with injuries?

What we have thought since the injuries have piled up, a bunch of quacks.

 

[FrankZ]

Snell officially getting on my nerves

 

[shields]

Score for Degrom.

 

[FrankZ]

Dom getting on my nerves too

 

[nutfromSEC117]

Bases loaded, just walked 2 guys
Check swing inning ending GIDP

 

[Doctor Worm]

Dom getting on my nerves too

But apparently he's not OFFICIALLY on your nerves yet. So I guess there is still hope for him.😏

 

[FrankZ]

But apparently he's not OFFICIALLY on your nerves yet. So I guess there is still hope for him.😏

Close to official. Been bubbling with him for weeks.