Volpe is a top 10 prospect in all of baseball and Peraza a top 40 prospect. They weren't going to deal either of them for rental.
Yanks gave up guys basically in their 15-20 range.
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Yanks gave up guys basically in their 15-20 range.
I would have preferred Benedetti over Vogelbach, especially for some mid level prospects.
None of them are above single-A. Other teams love taking young prospects from the Yankees. I'm surprised they didn't throw Gallo into the pile.
Therein lies the problem. Our mid-level prospects have no market value. I am certain we tried to get the Pirates to accept mid-level prospects for Vogelbach. No sale.
Looking ahead, the season may be determined over a 20 day stretch in August. The Mets play the Braves 9 times, the Phils 7 times and the Yanks twice. There are two double headers, one vs, the Braves and the other vs. the Phils. There is only one off day in this stretch. They finish the month with the Dodgers. August will make or break this team.
Exactly. It's not as if each team has a generic, interchangeable set of top-level, mid-level, and low-level prospects. The Mets' system isn't good. That makes these trades hard. The Mets will have to either take back bad contracts, give up what the Mets consider to be their top-level prospects, take flyers on less attractive trade targets, or a combination of those things. The Mets' recently expressed goal to bolster their minor league system didn't transform the players that were already in the system into better prospects. If young talent is the currency for trade-deadline deals, the Mets are one of the poorer teams in the market.
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Baty still on fire. Expect a promotion to AAA within the next week at some point.
July 27 Mets Farm Report (Top 25 prospects per MLB Pipeline)
AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)
1) Francisco Alvarez C (AAA Syracuse) – 1/4, 2B(3), BB, K, .132/.629
2) Brett Baty 3B/OF (AA Binghamton) – 2/3, BB, .301/892
3) Ronny Mauricio SS (AA Binghamton) – 0/3, BB, .244/.744
4) Alex Ramirez OF (High A Brooklyn) – 1/3, RBI, BB, .281/.812
5) Mark Vientos 3B/1B (AAA Syracuse) – 2/4, HR(18), R, 3 RBI, BB, .264/.862
6) Matt Allan RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured – Elbow expected return 2023
7) Khalil Lee OF (AAA Syracuse) – 1/4, 2B(16), R, K, .200/.705
8) Nick Plummer OF (AAA Syracuse) – 0/4, R, BB, 2 K, .217/.676
9) Dominic Hamel RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
10) Joel Diaz RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
11) Calvin Ziegler RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - Injured Biceps Tendonitis Expected return 2022
12) Jose Butto RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
13) Simon Juan OF (Rookie DSL Mets 1) – 2/4, R, RBI, .262/.723
14) Jaylen Palmer 3B/OF (High A Brooklyn) – 0/2, R, 2 BB, K, SB(16), .182/.615
15) Carlos Cortes 2B/OF (AA Binghamton) – 0/2, RBI, BB, 2 K, .258/.764
16) Junior Santos RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
17) Eric Orze RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
18) Robert Dominguez RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - Injured – Arm surgery expected return 2023
19) JT Schwartz 1B (High A Brooklyn) – 2/4, HR(4), 2B(18), R, 4 RBI, .259/.730
20) Hayden Senger C (AA Binghamton) - DNP
21) Mike Vasil RHP (High A Brooklyn) – Injured Expected return 2022
22) Jake Mangum OF (AAA Syracuse) - Injured – Back expected return 2023
23) Jordany Ventura RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
24) Josh Walker LHP (AAA Syracuse) - Injured Expected return 2022
25) Christian Scott RHP (Low A St. Lucie) – 1.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 5.57
July 27 Mets Farm Report (Top 25 prospects per MLB Pipeline)
AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)
1) Francisco Alvarez C (AAA Syracuse) – 1/4, 2B(3), BB, K, .132/.629
2) Brett Baty 3B/OF (AA Binghamton) – 2/3, BB, .301/892
3) Ronny Mauricio SS (AA Binghamton) – 0/3, BB, .244/.744
4) Alex Ramirez OF (High A Brooklyn) – 1/3, RBI, BB, .281/.812
5) Mark Vientos 3B/1B (AAA Syracuse) – 2/4, HR(18), R, 3 RBI, BB, .264/.862
6) Matt Allan RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured – Elbow expected return 2023
7) Khalil Lee OF (AAA Syracuse) – 1/4, 2B(16), R, K, .200/.705
8) Nick Plummer OF (AAA Syracuse) – 0/4, R, BB, 2 K, .217/.676
9) Dominic Hamel RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
10) Joel Diaz RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
11) Calvin Ziegler RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - Injured Biceps Tendonitis Expected return 2022
12) Jose Butto RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
13) Simon Juan OF (Rookie DSL Mets 1) – 2/4, R, RBI, .262/.723
14) Jaylen Palmer 3B/OF (High A Brooklyn) – 0/2, R, 2 BB, K, SB(16), .182/.615
15) Carlos Cortes 2B/OF (AA Binghamton) – 0/2, RBI, BB, 2 K, .258/.764
16) Junior Santos RHP (High A Brooklyn) - DNP
17) Eric Orze RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
18) Robert Dominguez RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - Injured – Arm surgery expected return 2023
19) JT Schwartz 1B (High A Brooklyn) – 2/4, HR(4), 2B(18), R, 4 RBI, .259/.730
20) Hayden Senger C (AA Binghamton) - DNP
21) Mike Vasil RHP (High A Brooklyn) – Injured Expected return 2022
22) Jake Mangum OF (AAA Syracuse) - Injured – Back expected return 2023
23) Jordany Ventura RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
24) Josh Walker LHP (AAA Syracuse) - Injured Expected return 2022
25) Christian Scott RHP (Low A St. Lucie) – 1.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 5.57
I saw on MLB Network that the players the Yankees traded were ranked #19 or lower in their system. Meanwhile, any team attempting to conduct trades with the Mets expect the Mets to give up top 10 prospects even if the guy the other team is sending isn't worth a bag of rocks.
It shouldn't be difficult to tease out what this means: the Yankees have a better and deeper minor league system. The opposing team in a deal isn't so much concerned about where the player ranks within your particular system, but instead how strong the prospect package is. Take a look at the top 25 Mets prospect list immediately above your post. The Mets top pitching prospect is coming off surgery and not even pitching this year. It's not a good system. And so Yankee #19 prospect may in fact be better than a Mets top 10 prospect. And maybe three players from the Yankees 19-30 prospects is better package than a Mets top 10 prospect not named Alvarez. You understand, right, that the other team in the deal is trying to get the best prospects it can? Rather than being bewildered by it, you should consider what it means.
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The thing is- he isn't really what we need. We need real protection for Pete. And, we most likely would have had to give up one of our top prospects for him as a rental.
That might have something to do with it, but I think teams still believe the Wilpons are running the show. There is good reason to continue to believe this because Sandy Alderson is still around and opens his mouth as if his title is GM.
But that wasn't possible. Vogelbach is fun to watch, he has a .556 OBP since coming over to the Mets (I think that is correct). Benedetti OBP is .387 and OPS is .785 for 2022. Plus he has more stolen bases. 🤡
No way that this is the reason. It's a business, the currency is talent and, well, money, and that's it. The GMs around the league aren't fans on the internet fighting old battles about the quality of previous ownership.
You can draw a line between Prospects #6 and #7 on that list, and there is a significant dropoff. The Mets really don't want to trade #1 through #6, except possibly in a "major" deal. Prospects #7 and below have little market value. The fact that Lee and Plummer are in the Top 10 speaks volumes.
This list was made before games were played. They've fallen down and out while others have moved up but yes as I stated earlier we're still lacking lots of depth. Including the draft guys as our top 10 will look a ton better next year depending on if we trade anyone.
Need 3 arms now. Interested to see if Nogosek gets some play. The Holderman trade to me was a bad idea with such thin depth in the pen.
Yes, especially for a guy who looks like he belongs in a softball beer league. I would not have made that trade.
I continue to believe that we should not evaluate that trade in a vacuum. There'll be time enough for counting when the dealing's done. The dealing's done at 6PM Monday.
I agree but if there are working toward making a bigger trade why sell off Holderman for this guy? I am not an expert but I cannot believe he was in that much demand that the Mets had to pull the trigger right then or lose him. We could have waited until Tuesday to get him if the other moves did not pan out.
Yeah Naquin can't hit lefties at all and Diehl sucks. We already brought in Vogelbach for hitting against RHP. This makes no sense.
Jose Acuna and Hector Rodriguez going to Cincy makes this even worse. Acuna was impressing and both of these guys were top 30 Mets prospects at this point. Acuna is better than anyone the Yanks gave up yesterday.
Naquin can't hit lefties and can't field. Basically Vogelbach junior.
Eppler a big time 0-2 here.
Naquin can't hit lefties and can't field. Basically Vogelbach junior.
Eppler a big time 0-2 here.
Nyquin - upgrade over jankowski and I think he ll platoon with canha. Also outfield depth. Gotta think this is a prelude deal. Where does Dom get traded to? Cubs ? Now give me JD Martinez / Vasquez or Contreras and David Robertson.
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