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OT: Official 2022 NY Mets Season And Post Season Thread

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That is a statistical aberration which I do not expect to continue.

If I am wrong, and there really is some cosmic force which determines that the Mets will barely score when two specific pitchers are starting... well then who better than the two pitchers for whom "barely scoring" just might be enough!
I dont mean just when they're pitching but in general including when they are pitching.
 
Jury is still out whether we did enough at trade deadline.
What is worrisome is bottom of lineup with either catcher / Escobar or baty etc providing little output as Braves and Dodgers are solid 1-9 throughout lineup.
And we all know we’re going to have heart issues with the bullpen in the playoffs 🤕
Don’t also want to discount Phillies ; Cardinals or Padres - all formidable opponents.
Regardless I’m all set for the playoffs with tickets for all home games as I ll be there getting hoarse. 😂
 
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Yeah we've've been hanging on that for months but outside of the occasional 6 runs plus 1-3 runs seems to be the norm. As evidenced by this Colorado series. 7 runs in one game and 6 total in the other 3 combined.
Mets are 4th in the NL in runs scored. Behind LA, SL, and ATL. Not surprising as those teams have better lineups top to bottom. But better than most of the teams we will play from here on out.
 
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Mets are 4th in the NL in runs scored. Behind LA, SL, and ATL. Not surprising as those teams have better lineups top to bottom. But better than most of the teams we will play from here on out.
This is where you hope the Mets starting pitching can contain the lineups for LA, StL, and Atl. We always hear good pitching shuts down good offenses.
 
Mets are 4th in the NL in runs scored. Behind LA, SL, and ATL. Not surprising as those teams have better lineups top to bottom. But better than most of the teams we will play from here on out.
That's the thing about trying to win a leauge. If three teams score more than you, you may not win that league. It turns out, I believe, that those same three teams also surrender fewer runs than the Mets. That will make it even harder to win the league.
 
That's the thing about trying to win a leauge. If three teams score more than you, you may not win that league. It turns out, I believe, that those same three teams also surrender fewer runs than the Mets. That will make it even harder to win the league.
Atl +138
Mets+127
StL + 117

All 3 about the same.
keep in mind- that number for the Mets would look much different if deGrom was pitching all year.
I’m not going to say that the hot/cold of the offense doesn’t worry me but…
And we still have the 2nd best record in baseball and playing at a higher % then we did in the first half.
At this point- and it could change, everyone not named the Dodgers should be worried about facing us.
 
Rest of season……
Mets……. …. Braves
LA 3. …… … Col 3
Nats 3. …… Mia 3
@pit 3. ….. @ oak 2
@ Mia 3. ….. @ sea 3
Cubs 3. …. …. @ sf 3
Pit 4. ….. ….. Phil 3
@ mil 3 …. ….. Nat 3
@ oak 3. ….. @ Phil 4
Mia 2…. ….. @ Nats 3
@ ATL 3. …. METS 3
Nats 3. …. @ Mia 3
 
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I don’t see many losses for either team.
9 games for Braves @ Sea @ SF Phil
Maybe a chance to get some space during this stretch

After the 9 game stretch a breather vs Nats then 4 in Philly.
 
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Atl +138
Mets+127
StL + 117

All 3 about the same.
keep in mind- that number for the Mets would look much different if deGrom was pitching all year.
I’m not going to say that the hot/cold of the offense doesn’t worry me but…
And we still have the 2nd best record in baseball and playing at a higher % then we did in the first half.
At this point- and it could change, everyone not named the Dodgers should be worried about facing us.
Opps. You missed LA.
 
Rest of season……
Mets……. …. Braves
LA 3. …… … Col 3
Nats 3. …… Mia 3
@pit 3. ….. @ oak 2
@ Mia 3. ….. @ sea 3
Cubs 3. …. …. @ sf 3
Pit 4. ….. ….. Phil 3
@ mil 3 …. ….. Nat 3
@ oak 3. ….. @ Phil 4
Mia 2…. ….. @ Nats 3
@ ATL 3. …. METS 3
Nats 3. …. @ Mia 3
Well done. We just have to keep winning series while also sweeping some. 2 more home series vs the Nats and home series vs the Pirates, Miami and the Cubs. Though the Cubs have been playing notably more competitive baseball

I'm looking at 3 series as a chance to create more space. When we are home vs Pittsburgh while the Braves host Philly, us at Oakland while the Braves travel to Philly and us at Miami when the Braves are out in Seattle. The Braves do not dominate Philly like we did and they also have Harper back now.

From the Braves perspective they have to be looking at our Dodgers series as they host Colorado and our series at Milwaukee when they are hosting the Nats. We have struggled in Milwaukee in the past and they certainly haver some starting pitching that could trouble us. Not that I really care about their perspective.
 
Rest of season……
Mets……. …. Braves
LA 3. …… … Col 3
Nats 3. …… Mia 3
@pit 3. ….. @ oak 2
@ Mia 3. ….. @ sea 3
Cubs 3. …. …. @ sf 3
Pit 4. ….. ….. Phil 3
@ mil 3 …. ….. Nat 3
@ oak 3. ….. @ Phil 4
Mia 2…. ….. @ Nats 3
@ ATL 3. …. METS 3
Nats 3. …. @ Mia 3
Braves should be seeing Alcantra start the 1st game of that series. Hopefully they see the Alcantra that pitched a complete game Saturday against LA.
 
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I've got tickets to the Saturday night game in that last series in Atlanta. While I hope we have clinched by then a small part of me thinks how nice it would be to lock it up in their stadium.
 
Well- we have 9 games remaining against >.500 teams and Braves have 13 against >.500

We have a 25-12 record against the >.500 teams we have remaining
Atlanta is 13-15 in their remaining >.500 but have not played Seattle previously in 2022, so we don't know how they match up.

Every way I try to look at the stretch run- we should have a huge advantage. It doesn't mean things won't change but we have been very consistant this year
 
The way that you’re not looking at it is how well the Braves have been playing for the last two months as compared to the Mets. They didn’t cut into the Mets lead by about 10 games by accident, nor did they win the World Series by accident.
 
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We have a winning record against teams with an over .500 record. The Braves have a losing record against such opponents. They have 3 series left with winning teams. 4 counting the one vs. us. We have 2. Three counting the one vs. the Braves. We should be fine unless we really crap the bed against some of the horrible teams we have left on our schedule. And by that I mean get shut down by bad to mediocre pitching.
 
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The way that you’re not looking at it is how well the Braves have been playing for the last two months as compared to the Mets. They didn’t cut into the Mets lead by about 10 games by accident, nor did they win the Works Series by accident.
More than anything for the Mets:

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The way that you’re not looking at it is how well the Braves have been playing for the last two months as compared to the Mets. They didn’t cut into the Mets lead by about 10 games by accident, nor did they win the World Series by accident.
They cut in, but then been held off. I believe on July 18 we were 58-35 and they were 56-38
Since then
Mets: 24-12
Braves:23-12

So- maybe, Braves should be asking how the hell are they going to pass us…

sometimes- if you only listen to talking heads and or Met and Yankee fans- they don’t look at what is really happening. Braves have not been out playing us for almost 2 months. They had a mid season run.
 
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Yeah, I appreciate the data mining, but if you haven't seen the steady ratcheting upward of the Braves toward the Mets in the standings since the Mets were up by over 10 games in early June, you haven't been watching. You could just as easily have mentioned the last 19 games in which the Broves are 15-4 and the Mets 11-8 and not attributed it to a simple mid-season run. You've seen the gap closing. Of course you have. The fact that its not a steady climb, but one with pauses, and even a step or two the other way, is precisely how these things happen. The Braves have been playing better than the Mets. Maybe the Mets reverse that. But if you choose to leave it out of your analyses--even affirmatively state that you haven't seen it or its not important--then the analysis is deficient.

As to talking heads, that comment might be a bit of unintended self-reflection. I learned long ago that I enjoy watching games, not the nonesense stuff that happens in studios or on radio stations before and afterward. You?
 
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They cut in, but then been held off. I believe on July 18 we were 58-35 and they were 56-38
Since then
Mets: 24-12
Braves:23-12

So- maybe, Braves should be asking how the hell are they going to pass us…

sometimes- if you only listen to talking heads and or Met and Yankee fans- they don’t look at what is really happening. Braves have not been out playing us for almost 2 months. They had a mid season run.
Its pretty mind-boggling that I saw the Braves ranked higher than us in one of those power ranking things yesterday. By what metric? We have a winning record vs. them head to head, have played more of the tougher part of our schedule, have a winning record vs winning teams where they do not.
 
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Yeah, I appreciate the data mining, but if you haven't seen the steady ratcheting upward of the Braves toward the Mets in the standings since the Mets were up by over 10 games in early June, you haven't been watching. You could just as easily have mentioned the last 19 games in which the Broves are 15-4 and the Mets 11-8 and not attributed it to a simple mid-season run. You've seen the gap closing. Of course you have. The fact that its not a steady climb, but one with pauses, and even a step or two the other way, is precisely how these things happen. The Braves have been playing better than the Mets. Maybe the Mets reverse that. But if you choose to leave it out of your analyses--even affirmatively state that you haven't seen it or its not important--then the analysis is deficient.

As to talking heads, that comment might be a bit of unintended self-reflection. I learned long ago that I enjoy watching games, not the nonesense stuff that happens in studios or on radio stations before and afterward. You?
That is the thing- it is a 162 game season. I am not discounting the Braves…
We had a really hot run early and they were just ok- they then had the hot run and we were just ok. And then, both teams just seem to be trading punches and both teams playing very good.
we also have a much easier schedule to finish the season. So, they not only have to be 3 1/2 games better then us to finish but to do it against a harder schedule.
What worries me, and I’m sure, every other fam of both teams- both could end up with 100+ wins and one would not even win the division.
That said- Met’s are in the drivers seat and it isn’t like we are slumping or slowing down.
 
No, we aren't slumping. The Braves, generally, have been surging, after an early slump.

I'm not going to refulte much of what you wrote here. My main point is that discounting or ignoring how well the Braves have been playing undermines your analysis and makes it seem outcome-oriented.

Either way, let's go Mets.
 
That is the thing- it is a 162 game season. I am not discounting the Braves…
We had a really hot run early and they were just ok- they then had the hot run and we were just ok. And then, both teams just seem to be trading punches and both teams playing very good.
we also have a much easier schedule to finish the season. So, they not only have to be 3 1/2 games better then us to finish but to do it against a harder schedule.
What worries me, and I’m sure, every other fam of both teams- both could end up with 100+ wins and one would not even win the division.
That said- Met’s are in the drivers seat and it isn’t like we are slumping or slowing down.

No, we aren't slumping. The Braves, generally, have been surging, after an early slump.

I'm not going to refulte much of what you wrote here. My main point is that discounting or ignoring how well the Braves have been playing undermines your analysis and makes it seem outcome-oriented.

Either way, let's go Mets.
Are you just selecting what you want to read so you can just try to prove yourself right again?
Read what you said for your reason my analysis doesn't count and then read what I wrote.

It is ok to have a conversation and not have to force a right or wrong into it just so you can say you are right.
 
Yes, I know that you responded with the words that you’re "not discounting the Braves." But you described them as having only had a mid-season run that talking heads and fans and whatever else were overplaying. Ignoring how well the Braves are playing impairs your analysis and explains why you would say that Mets have a "huge advantage" no matter how you analyze it.
 
Yes, I know that you responded with the words that you’re "not discounting the Braves." But you described them as having only had a mid-season run that talking heads and fans and whatever else were overplaying. Ignoring how well the Braves are playing impairs your analysis and explains why you would say that Mets have a "huge advantage" no matter how you analyze it.
Are you just dumb or just want to argue when you are not arguing the same discussion I was having

MY EXACT WORDS "
That is the thing- it is a 162 game season. I am not discounting the Braves…
We had a really hot run early and they were just ok- they then had the hot run and we were just ok. And then, both teams just seem to be trading punches and both teams playing very good."
 
Are you just dumb or just want to argue when you are not arguing the same discussion I was having

MY EXACT WORDS "
That is the thing- it is a 162 game season. I am not discounting the Braves…
We had a really hot run early and they were just ok- they then had the hot run and we were just ok. And then, both teams just seem to be trading punches and both teams playing very good."
You've been forced to soften your position that the Mets have a "huge advantage" no matter how you look at it. It's indefensible. There are over 30 games left and the teams are 3 games apart. One or the other might have an advantage, but it won't be huge. Add to that that the Braves irrefutably have been creeping up on the Mets for some time now and have been hotter of late. You described the Braves as having only a "mid season run," only then to soften it to say that they have been "trading puches" and are "playing very good." It's kind of a jumble at this point, but it doesn't need to be.

It should be easy for you to just say that a "huge advantage" no matter how you look at it was an overstatement. That's all that this was about, and it's much better than name calling.
 
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I'm just hoping to get out of this LAD series with a division lead. ATL smokes the chumps, so I'm expecting a sweep from them.
 
Alcantara scheduled to go vs 9/2 Braves and last game vs 9/8 Phillies which means he misses Mets series

Rest of season……
Mets……. …. Braves
LA 3. …… … Col 3
Nats 3. …… Mia 3
@pit 3. ….. @ oak 2
@ Mia 3. ….. @ sea 3
Cubs 3. …. …. @ sf 3
Pit 4. ….. ….. Phil 3
@ mil 3 …. ….. Nat 3
@ oak 3. ….. @ Phil 4
Mia 2…. ….. @ Nats 3
@ ATL 3. …. METS 3
Nats 3. …. @ Mia
 
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