OT: Reporter and camerman shot on live tv in Virginia

[ruhudsonfan]

While this may be true (although I wouldn't be surprised if nobody actually collects data on the number of people killed by falling coconuts), I'm not sure of its relevance to the general question of whether gun control is a good idea or not.

It's relevant because usually sane logical people throw both out the window during this discussion.

Distracted driving kills umpteen thousand drivers per year. We legislate against cell phone usage in cars. WE DON'T BAN CELL PHONES. Shit, we don't even MANDATE the installation of apps that would render them useless in a moving vehicle.

Tens of thousands drown in backyard pools. We legislate that pools must be fenced in and reasonable precaution must be taken to secure your pool. WE DON'T BAN POOLS.

Get my drift yet?

Things in life are dangerous. Things in life are misused. Things in life kill people. However, our first response is to say, "that's a real shame" when someone gets killed by a coconut in Fiji (there are stats, btw and in 2012, more people were killed by falling coconuts globally, than were killed by "rifles" in the US)--or drowns--or texts themselves off the road--or drives drunk.

But when a totally deranged loon shoots two previous co-workers, we say, "BAN GUNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS" "WHY DO YOU NEED A GUN THAT HOLDS MORE THAN 5 ROUNDS? DEER DON'T SHOOT BACK"

 

[RedSpartan]

Take your politics to the CE board, guys.

Two people are dead for no legitimate reason. Keep the thread about the news updates and to remember them.

 

[Rokodesh]

Take your politics to the CE board, guys.

Two people are dead for no legitimate reason. Keep the thread about the news updates and to remember them.

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[RU4Real]

Take your politics to the CE board, guys.

Two people are dead for no legitimate reason. Keep the thread about the news updates and to remember them.

Have you read his manifesto?

 

[RUhasarrived]

Who would have ever thought that when you woke up this morning that the stock market would not be the No.1 story today?Yellen could triple interest rates without notice.

 

[Blitz8RUCrazy]

I think he missed the first two shots and he was about 5ft away.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

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Yeah, lets keep it to your accurate news updates.

Dead? Not Dead? Any other random black guy pics you can post of the shooter?

When I need guidance about what to post where, I'll let you know.

 

[RU4Real]

I think he missed the first two shots and he was about 5ft away.

I know, right?

And he wasn't even holding the gun sideways.

 

[newell138]

I think he missed the first two shots and he was about 5ft away.

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How does no one see the gun in their face?

 

[RUJohnny99]

I think he missed the first two shots and he was about 5ft away.

The flight of stairs winded him.

How that chamber of commerce lady tuned out the large guy with a gopro & gun coming up the stairs at 630am is a mystery.

 

[applesktrack]

They missed it because people generally aren't observant and miss many many things when doing other things. People have to train themselves to be observant.

 

[Virginiarufan]

Pools and cell phones are not manufactured for the sole purpose of killing human beings. Hand guns are. Europe and other civilized countries don't have this problem because they don't allow their citizens to carry hand guns. We do and we have one of the highest murder rates in the world.

 

[DJ Spanky]

Yeah, lets keep it to your accurate news updates.

Dead? Not Dead? Any other random black guy pics you can post of the shooter?

When I need guidance about what to post where, I'll let you know.

Here ya go!

 

[e5fdny]

Yet, * these bodies aren't even at the morgue yet and people on this thread are solving the world's problems by restricting rights (you) and banning guns (der).

It's tiresome...

Yes it is.

A couple of family's lives were changed forever today.

How about for today (or at least the next few hours) the lot of you remember *that first and go change the laws/defend our laws thing tomorrow.

 

[RUPete]

Clearly this is an awful tragedy, but I think it's naive to think that gun control debates won't become part of the discussion each time something like this happens. We probably should add mental health to the conversation as well. Are we providing enough access to programs? Is there enough coverage for mental health conditions? Is there enough education about the warning signs, triggers or reducing the stigma so someone will get help instead of resorting to this?

 

[Virginiarufan]

The flight of stairs winded him.

How that chamber of commerce lady tuned out the large guy with a gopro & gun coming up the stairs at 630am is a mystery.

It's not that unusual for people to carry hand guns in that area. She probably didn't think twice about it.

 

[Rokodesh]

Yeah, lets keep it to your accurate news updates.

Dead? Not Dead? Any other random black guy pics you can post of the shooter?

When I need guidance about what to post where, I'll let you know.

im not against guns, but you sure do have a problem staying on topic

 

[mikemarc1]

The flight of stairs winded him.

How that chamber of commerce lady tuned out the large guy with a gopro & gun coming up the stairs at 630am is a mystery.

She was probably nervous as heck..on live tv. The camera guy and reporter probably had producers in their ears..when they're live, they tune everything else out.

 

[jiggscasey]

They missed it because people generally aren't observant and miss many many things when doing other things. People have to train themselves to be observant.

Human vision is not that good. You ate lucky if you can make out the color or pattern of something in your peripheral vision outside the width of your shoulders.

 

[Section118]

I find it strange that her fiance is tweeting like he is. Stranger than fiction.

She wasn't engaged. She had a boyfriend only

 

[ruhudsonfan]

Yes it is.

A couple of family's lives were changed forever today.

How about for today (or at least the next few hours) the lot of you remember *that first and go change the laws/defend our laws thing tomorrow.

I can remember that and have a parallel conversation with people who will use any and all opportunities to push an agenda.

I don't need lessons in remembrance--even from an FDNY firefighter.

And while I type this, the White House Press Secretary is having a presser pushing a gun control agenda.

 

[RUaMoose]

While this may be true (although I wouldn't be surprised if nobody actually collects data on the number of people killed by falling coconuts), I'm not sure of its relevance to the general question of whether gun control is a good idea or not.

I seem to recall one episode of gilligan's island where gilligan was injured by a falling coconut.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

I seem to recall one episode of gilligan's island where gilligan was injured by a falling coconut.

See Told ya

 

[Extra Point]

It looked like the shooter was waiting for the cameraman to swing his camera back on the reporter. The cameraman was broadcasting video of the stores as the shooter stood and waited.

 

[RU4Real]

Ha. Found it.

 

[RUScrew85]

I'm not about banning guns, never said I was. I just personally think you really don't need to have anything more than a hand gun or hunting rifle. Why do you need anything else? I am a registered Republican by the way but I use 100% common sense.

So your opinion should drive the Rights of others? Nice work if you can get it. What does being Republican have to do with anything?

 

[RUScrew85]

So lets hear from you Mr. Gun expert extraordinaire.

This is gonna be good. LOL.

 

[e5fdny]

I can remember that and have a parallel conversation with people who will use any and all opportunities to push an agenda.

I don't need lessons in remembrance--even from an FDNY firefighter.

* And while I type this, the White House Press Secretary is having a presser pushing a gun control agenda.

Sometimes we don't need the parallel/debate conversation rightthissecond.

Time and place for everything.

"Wow, that sucks!" IMO is good enough for now.

*And agree, they're doing wrong as usual.

 

[mikemarc1]

The shooter's video resume, uploaded to youtube 2 years ago.

The first clip in the resume is extremely ironic.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Kyk, hudson is the last person you want to get into this with.

Is there something I don't know about Hudson? Is he the head of the NRA?

 

[RUScrew85]

Okay so I'll pose this question. For what reason do you have to have anything more than a hunting rifle and handgun? Again, I am a registered republican and lean pretty far right.

No. You don't.

 

[RUScrew85]

Is there something I don't know about Hudson? Is he the head of the NRA?

Let's just say he knows what he's talking about.

 

[RedSpartan]

Have you read his manifesto?

You're right, sorry. I just assumed that two people doing their job -- who so far as we know had been convicted of no crime -- did not have a legitimate reason to be murdered. My mistake.

I suppose after reading the murderer's manifesto, there is the chance that some of us may shout out, Sam Jackson style:

Please, keep us informed once you've read the manifesto. Thanks.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

So your opinion should drive the Rights of others? Nice work if you can get it. What does being Republican have to do with anything?

SMH. Just to explain that I'm not some crazy leftist liberal trying to push an agenda. I just like common sense. Unfortunately, it's not so common.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Let's just say he knows what he's talking about.

How so?

 

[Extra Point]

Generally I think people should have the right to buy a gun if they want to. What starts to change my mind is seeing the venom stupid comments that are posted under news stories. I don't know if these people live in another country, or if they are children looking for attention or if they are just plain old fashion stupid, but I sure has hell wouldn't want one of them to get their hands on a gun. Or even a fork for that matter.

 

[RUScrew85]

Okay so I'll pose this question. For what reason do you have to have anything more than a hunting rifle and handgun? Again, I am a registered republican and lean pretty far right.

No one has to justify their exercising a basic Intrinsic Human Right. These aren't granted by the Constitution they are only recognized there. As a human you have a right to defend yourself and your freedom and a firearm is the best way to do that - handgun, shotgun, rifle, whatever.

 

[RU Husky]

Because this is the way rights work.

NONE OF YOUR F@CKING BUSINESS WHY...

Hey, Mr. Black Man, why do you WANT TO VOTE? Politicians do nothing anyway.

Are you being serious now?

I don't need to justify why I want to do anything that is Constitutionally protected to you, Mr. Magoo or the man on the moon. That's why...

I have a huge Dick and like my toys to match...

I have a small dick and my ego feels better staring at my scary gun collection...

Jesus told me too

Allah said screw Jesus and join the Jihad...

NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS....THAT'S WHY

Are we clear where I stand yet?

NONE

OF

YOUR

BUSINESS

WHY

Speaking of the Constitutionally protected rights, the 14th Amendment has certainly ended the discussion on birthright citizenship

 

[RUScrew85]

How so?

Hudson's business is his business. He's a subject matter expert as I implied. His personal life is his to disclose.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

No. You don't.

Because you know me, right? Again, I'm not against banning guns I just don't see the reason why anyone needs anything more than a hand gun and hunting rifle. There's literally no rational reason. If you think you need an arsenal to defend yourself, I can promise you that you have much bigger issues on your hands. If someones coming after you with such heavy artillery that you need an arsenal, I promise, they will kill you.

Again, I personally like to use common sense.