OT: UNC & NCAA Meet Today. . .

[RUinPinehurst]

Reps from UNC will meet today in Indianapolis. Per Dan Kane of the N&O, "UNC-Chapel Hill is expected to argue at a special NCAA hearing Friday that it shouldn’t be hit with infractions over the long-running academic fraud case because NCAA investigators took no action five years ago when it began to surface.

At that time, the NCAA was pursuing violations of impermissible perks from agents and impermissible academic help from a tutor, all involving the football team. The NCAA says it didn’t know how significant the scheme of bogus classes was at the time, in part because UNC didn’t produce all the information it could have then.

It’s an argument that the public would find hard to assess. That’s because the university has refused numerous times to produce the bulk of information obtained in the summer of 2011 – in particular transcripts of those interviewed jointly by the university and the NCAA."

Read full article here: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/unc-scandal/article110920142.html
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/unc-scandal/article110920142.html
Remember, at the conclusion of his UNC-directed "review" of improprieties within the AFAM department and the delivery of his "report," Ken Wainstein offered to look into those other six or so departments that also were involved in bogus classes, grade changes, etc. involving student-athletes. UNC said, "no thanks."

 

[brgRC90]

Pathetic. The Amoral States of America.

 

[JRZEER]

They will probably hand out boxes of cigars and air Jordan's and everything will be hunky dory.

 

[srru86]

If they ever really peel the lid off this it is going to go much higher than the University. The top State political, economic and ACC leaders will be implicated. The Carolina Way crowd has many reasons to try and hide or run out the clock.
Of course the NCAA is likely to come out looking bad also. They're pros at that.

 

[Beancounter88]

I predict it will be a bad day for Georgia Southern. They will get the death penalty for giving peanut butter sandwiches to players at halftime and, in a smaller story, UNC will vacate 4 wins from 2007.

 

[Knight Shift]

Live footage from the meeting:

 

[Abro1975]

Will reps from the Rams Club be there?

 

[superfan01]

In all seriousness. What is the worse punishment UNC is looking at?
What is the likely punishment?

 

[Abro1975]

In all seriousness. What is the worse punishment UNC is looking at?
What is the likely punishment?

Worst?- probably a year or 2 post season ban for basketball and football.

Most likely- loss of some scholarships for those sports.

 

[kupuna133]

If they ever really peel the lid off this it is going to go much higher than the University. The top State political, economic and ACC leaders will be implicated. The Carolina Way crowd has many reasons to try and hide or run out the clock.
Of course the NCAA is likely to come out looking bad also. They're pros at that.

I agree. This stench reaches way higher than a Dean or rogue Professor. Swofford ACC commissioner was the AD when all of this started. This stench will rise into the ACC offices, state politics and possibly into other schools within the ACC. If it was acceptable to create sham courses and sham academic departments to attract athletes then I am sure there were more unscrupulous things going on that coaches all the way up to the highest boosters were aware.This is not a 2 year window of lack of judgement this was systemic issue that was carried out all the way back to the Dean Smith era.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Here is what SMU got, which was the worse punishment that the NCAA ever handled out:

• The 1987 season was canceled; only conditioning drills were permitted during the 1987 calendar year.
• All home games in 1988 were canceled. SMU was allowed to play their seven regularly scheduled away games so that other institutions would not be financially affected.
• The team's existing probation was extended until 1990. Its existing ban from bowl games and live television was extended to 1989.
• SMU lost 55 new scholarship positions over 4 years.
• SMU was required to ensure that Owen and eight other boosters previously banned from contact with the program were in fact banned, or else face further punishment.
• The team was allowed to hire only five full-time assistant coaches, instead of the typical nine.
• No off-campus recruiting was permitted until August 1988, and no paid visits could be made to campus by potential recruits until the start of the 1988-89 school year.

 

[srru86]

Will reps from the Rams Club be there?

Here is what I'd really like to know. Part of their NCAA defense is a portion of the kids that benefited from the sham classes were not athletes. I'd like to know how many of those non-athlete's were the progeny of Ram's Club members or politicos?

 

[MozRU]

This smells really bad. I would bet in this day and age, it goes all the way to the heads of state.

There is sooooooo much money involved. Follow the money. The NCAA has little power here. The FBI should be really involved. We're talking about an institution that carried players who had zero business in college so people could make money. ...at the detriment to places like Rutgers.

People who wear PSU and UNC apparel make me sick to my stomach. I stare at their shirts then in their eye with disdain. heir entire legacy and prestige was built on filth.

 

[LC-88]

The FBI. That's funny. They will question Bubba Cunningham for three hours, and say no one intended to cheat even though it happened.

 

[scarletschuyler]

Good points, Scourge. And consider the extent of penalties assessed against USC because an outside "agency" provided housing to Reggie Bush's family. Not exactly like years and years of academic and faculty administration fraud.

 

[Caliknight]

The FBI. That's funny. They will question Bubba Cunningham for three hours, and say no one intended to cheat even though it happened.

Unless they can prove he knew it was against the rules, he should be good.

 

[BABYBULL24]

If I could set the whole thing to music....

 

[justinslot]

I predict it will be a bad day for Georgia Southern. They will get the death penalty for giving peanut butter sandwiches to players at halftime and, in a smaller story, UNC will vacate 4 wins from 2007.

I was going to do this joke if you didn't, though my version involved Coastal Carolina.