When rules are stupid, they should change. Lots of soccer rules are stupid. Time to make improvements.
Yes, since 1974. Before then, they used to replay elimination games, although fortunately, no WC final match before 1974 had to do that (someone always won in OT).
Followed and played soccer for a long time and want to change the PK rule badly. With 26 players per side, playing sudden death until someone scores doesn't seem unreasonable, as long as unlimited substitutions were allowed, say, after the first 30 minutes. The fundamental point is the game should be decided by playing the game, period - extra subs is a tiny change to the game compared to the immense change of going to PKs.
I agree, and for every sport/event. No gimmicky overtime mechanism for me. Either call it a tie or keep playing.
Disagree. You know the rules going in and can plan accordingly. Throwing every player into the game at some point is just as bad.
You're a troll of the highest order on this. Don't really care how you feel about it.
Hockey is for pussies. Have to wear a bunch of pads to figure skate for 1-2 min at a time.
T is a troll as are a few others in this thread. I am not. It's fair to disagree, but I have a hard time understanding how you think PKs bear any resemblance to the actual game vs. simply modifying sub rules, which still preserves the actual game. And hopefully, the game wouldn't go more than another 30 minutes, but if it did, it would be great fun to watch.
Same here - ties aren't an issue for me, except in elimination games and for those, play the game to decide.
I know you're not a troll.
How about this for flopped and faking injuries? If you go down for more the 15 seconds and claim you are hurt, you gotta leave the game for 10 mins. That would instantly clean up this mess.
Would you be up for another 30 minutes of play with a few more subs allowed? I get there is probably some limit (2 hours?) for players who don't get subbed out and having all subs in and not the starters is probably sub-optimal, but I just hate PKs to end the game (even though they are exciting). I'm also curious what players think of shootouts. Haven't really seen any good articles on that (have looked).
There is no perfect answer. Which is why pks seem to be the most convenient and least terrible. The idea of having a game decided by pens actually push teams to try to win in AET. Everyone knows that the shootout is a coin flip situation. When you have games that can go forever, teams hunker down to not lose and hope the other team makes a mistake. Adding an additional 30 min would require adding 3 or 4 more subs over the course of AET, which means subbing out basically all outfield players over 150 minutes. No point in doing that either. Also lets teams with deep benches play the war of attrition and wait out their opponents, which is not entertaining either.
Strategy. Same reason Baseball implementing things like having to pitch to more to an one batter - make a decision and you have to stick with it to some degree.
It's far from luck.... guessing correctly on direction is absolutely no guarantee of anything as was demonstrated well yesterday.
I disagree. Pks are not a coin flip. They are a good measure of the ability of a team to put the ball in the net...a fundamental soccer skill. Going in everyone who knew anything about these teams knew Argentina would very likely win a shootout. As expected they did. I hate games ending this way as much as most but let's be honest about it. As much as i hate Argentina, they deserved it.
How would that work on balls from outside the box going into the box? This is where most offsides calls happen. Once the ball is already inside the box, defending is usually a mad scramble... guys aren't trying to trap the other team.
and not being able to use your hands at all makes soccer different than any other sport. The goal looks so big unitl you get in front of it with 11 trying to stop you. People who have not played will never understand that
what is stupid is you. You hate the sport so yeah we should listen to you. Not
this is the only rule change proposed in this thread that i whole heartedly agree with. then there is also no guessing about how much stoppage time is added at the end of halves.
I'm no genius, and I'm obviously not an international level soccer player. But I think it is largely a coin flip. Every player in the world cup can place the ball in the net wherever they want to. Sometimes the goalies guesses correctly, and the perfect shot still eludes him/her. But mostly, as I see it, the goalie simply flips a coin and goes one or the other direction and hopes that the shooter chose the same direction. Is that not true? Maybe I am misunderstanding what I am seeing.
I would love that. Nothing turns me off more than the faking and flopping. A grown-ass man rolling around in "agony" when the subsequent replay shows that the opponent's knee brushed his thigh...
The NASL implemented a 35-yard offsides line in the late ‘70s, but FIFA made them stop (their approval on things like rules was needed in order to clear international players).
