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From the linked Luicci article from 2011:

You worked for six years under Jerry Sandusky. Did you have any inkling of what was going on?

Schiano: Because of the situation being what it is, I'm not even going to get into it. I'm so far removed. Again, you don't need people making commentaries on things like this. It's just a sad thing.

Clearly he had no intention of answering the question. I think it is reasonable to infer that at minimum, he "had an inkling".

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2011/11/joe_paterno_retirement_saddens.html


I do not see how you can INFER anything. It would be difficult to even guess or speculate.
 
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From the linked Luicci article from 2011:

You worked for six years under Jerry Sandusky. Did you have any inkling of what was going on?

Schiano: Because of the situation being what it is, I'm not even going to get into it. I'm so far removed. Again, you don't need people making commentaries on things like this. It's just a sad thing.

Clearly he had no intention of answering the question. I think it is reasonable to infer that at minimum, he "had an inkling".

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2011/11/joe_paterno_retirement_saddens.html

Seriously? That's what you infer from his statements? Most of us know very little about the personal lives of our bosses or coworkers. Ridiculous thread full of innuendo. Get back to me when there's any actual indication Schiano knew (and I'll be first in line to excoriate him). Until then, I'll prefer to think of him as the greatest coach in Rutgers history, as well as a great teacher of young men.
 
From the linked Luicci article from 2011:

You worked for six years under Jerry Sandusky. Did you have any inkling of what was going on?

Schiano: Because of the situation being what it is, I'm not even going to get into it. I'm so far removed. Again, you don't need people making commentaries on things like this. It's just a sad thing.

Clearly he had no intention of answering the question. I think it is reasonable to infer that at minimum, he "had an inkling".

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2011/11/joe_paterno_retirement_saddens.html

So you took his silence as an admission of guilt? In no way is that a "reasonable inference." He said he is not going to comment on it. Thank god our justice system doesn't work like this. Unreal.

Maybe he's a witch. Throw him in the well and see if he sinks.
 
So you took his silence as an admission of guilt? In no way is that a "reasonable inference." He said he is not going to comment on it. Thank god our justice system doesn't work like this. Unreal.

Maybe he's a witch. Throw him in the well and see if he sinks.

No, no, no, put him at the stake, light the fire, see if he burns!
 
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Golly, some folks have creative minds. Looking for reasons to make a Rutgers issue out of something that has nothing to do with Rutgers. Next they will be asking why Rutgers did not hook Greg up to a lie detector and/or waterboard him while asking him about what he actually knew and saw at Penn State when we interviewed him for the HC job.
 
Good find. I think it is reasonable to assume pretty much all of the coaches that worked with Sandusky "had an inkling". The real question is who had more than "an inkling"...who saw "things" or had direct knowledge of "incidents"?
Who held down the kids for Jerry, there are rumors that at least one did.
 
Golly, some folks have creative minds. Looking for reasons to make a Rutgers issue out of something that has nothing to do with Rutgers. Next they will be asking why Rutgers did not hook Greg up to a lie detector and/or waterboard him while asking him about what he actually knew and saw at Penn State when we interviewed him for the HC job.
Why not, are these children not worth it, we used it on Bin Laudin, was Jerry any better?
 
Golly, some folks have creative minds. Looking for reasons to make a Rutgers issue out of something that has nothing to do with Rutgers. Next they will be asking why Rutgers did not hook Greg up to a lie detector and/or waterboard him while asking him about what he actually knew and saw at Penn State when we interviewed him for the HC job.
I don't think anyone is looking to make this a Rutgers issue. It is potentially a GS issue now that new information has come to light about assistants from the early '90s. Given GS is a big part of our recent history, it makes sense to me to ask questions about what he knew but as others have said there is no direct evidence at this time to implicate him in the coverup.
 
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If he made that comment in 2012, as indicated in the OP, then it was after news about the cover-up came out and after Paterno was fired.
I know, I left out a key phrase. I should have said I hope he wouldn't make that statement knowing about JoePa's direct involvement in the massive coverup but I have serious doubts.
 
I'm sure many people in the program knew that Sandusky had some sort of issues and that the problem was taken care of b Joe Pa
 
Are we seriously trying to give our due diligence to connect Schiano to the crime?
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I think his answer to the question is/ was troubling...... It leaves the possibility he knew..... We can say that was two coaches ago, but I still would be disappointed in him if he knew.... Can we at least say this?
 
I know, I left out a key phrase. I should have said I hope he wouldn't make that statement knowing about JoePa's direct involvement in the massive coverup but I have serious doubts.
This was my first thought after reading the OP. Schiano made these statements knowing
about the Sandusky arrest. His statement was at the very least inappropriate.
I would have rather heard something about the poor children who had been
taken advantage of. Not about how great the accused was.
 
From a NBC story..... http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...id-6-penn-state-coaches-witness-abuse-n569526

Schiano was at PSU from 1989 to 1995. Left to take a job in the NFL with the Chicago Bears.


But sources told NBC News that one former Penn State assistant coach witnessed an incident in the late 1970s. Three other coaches — who have gone on to work in the NFL and at Division I colleges allegedly saw inappropriate conduct between Sandusky and boys in the early and mid-1990s.

"You won't believe what I just saw," one of those three coaches blurted out after bursting into a room filled with Penn State football staff, according to sources who spoke to a person who was in that room.
 
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I'm sure many people in the program knew that Sandusky had some sort of issues and that the problem was taken care of b Joe Pa

Dick Anderson use to shower with the Rutgers players, maybe someone should talk to him
 
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I think his answer to the question is/ was troubling...... It leaves the possibility he knew..... We can say that was two coaches ago, but I still would be disappointed in him if he knew.... Can we at least say this?

It's fair to wonder. I think we'd unanimously feel it's best to sever any history of GS being part of RU tradition/history. But the question I ask is directed towards those that are on a witch hunt that are ready to suggest GS's guilt before there is anything that directly suggest he's guilty.

Quotes of past refusals to talk about the topic is not incriminating, it can simply be a person that would rather not talk about a serious and sensitive subject.
 
It could be any number of coaches. If GS knew and did nothing, that is one thing, but no one has any proof of that.
 
I have been banned so I cant even read the forum. I'm sure the ban button has been hit on a lot of people the last couple days. Mcandrew must be a busy guy
Are you sure? I got banned from posting there but I can still read the posts.
 
hard to believe the coaching staff,trainers,equipment staff,the AD,and everyone else associated with State Penn didnt hear whispers or think it was odd Sandusky was allways totting around young boys..they even barred Sandusky from holding summer camps on State Penn main campus..but allowed it on one of the other satellite State Penn campus locations..
Culture.
 
No one is passing judgment on Schiano. To repeat, Luicci asked him if he had an inkling, which could mean as little as having heard unsubstantiated rumors. Most of us, if put in that situation, would have answered "no" if we could do so honestly. Schiano chose to turn the question around and state that it would be inappropriate to offer commentary, when in fact Luicci was asking him to do no such thing, he merely asked a yes-no question.

I continue to believe that at minimum, it is likely that Schiano had heard some things. That is a far cry from suggesting that he has any legal or moral culpability here. No one has suggested that in this thread.
 
I think if you're being intellectually honest, it's pretty hard to believe that any full time employee at the time would have heard nothing, most are just reluctant to come forward due to possible ramifications on their lives and careers. If you ask me, Schiano's "no comment" response is very telling, if he truly didn't know, there is absolutely no reason or downside for him not to say "absolutely not", I suspect there are people out there who can testify otherwise and therefore "no comment".
 
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Two things here, one is the you have to remember that PSU is ALEAYS the victim.
Second, I was reading one of the news articles and it said the victim, I believe A, would attend pro games with An NFL player who put a sign on him. "Sandusky Hole", or something to that effect. So we have players as well as people attending a party who know.
 
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The punishment meted out thus far does not measure up to the crime and cover up associated with the crimes committed. At a very minimum Paterno's legacy and memories must be deliberately and always remembered as tainted and for the monster that he was.....
 
"You won't believe what I just saw," one of those three coaches blurted out after bursting into a room filled with Penn State football staff, according to sources who spoke to a person who was in that room.

If there was a "room full of Penn State football staff" that this coach told, then the list of people who knew is a lot bigger than 4-6.
 
I do not see how you can INFER anything. It would be difficult to even guess or speculate.

Come on... The coaches on the staff talk with each other and most certainly if 3 assistant coaches knew then the all the coaches knew.
 
"You won't believe what I just saw," one of those three coaches blurted out after bursting into a room filled with Penn State football staff, according to sources who spoke to a person who was in that room.

If there was a "room full of Penn State football staff" that this coach told, then the list of people who knew is a lot bigger than 4-6.
Exactly. The list of people who heard these rumors is probably in the hundreds. Of course we don't know what the coach actually saw. My gut says it was something that didn't look right but could be explained away. I'd hate to think another PSU coach saw an actual act occurring and didn't physically intervene. The scariest part of all this is how comfortable that pervert was performing these acts on campus in the light of day.
 
Come on... The coaches on the staff talk with each other and most certainly if 3 assistant coaches knew then the all the coaches knew.

This is the truest statement made in this thread. No way this could be a secret among the PSU coaching staffs if Sandusky was behaving this way beginning as a 27 year old assistant. Don't forget that he was allowed to travel with young boys to bowl games for the rest of his time at PSU, even after he stopped being a member of the coaching staff.
 
The punishment meted out thus far does not measure up to the crime and cover up associated with the crimes committed. At a very minimum Paterno's legacy and memories must be deliberately and always remembered as tainted and for the monster that he was.....

They are disgusting scum. Even some of the most intelligent alumni that I know are into denial. The Ped State football program should have been nuked.

And JoePed-a man who enables 40 years of this is not a man.

Who forgets about incidents in 1971, 1976, 1987, 1988, 1988(again), 1998 and 2001 and does nothing? His body should be exhumed and the corpse violated. Hope he enjoys hell.
 
They were just Pearl Harbored. Give them a week or two to rally.
Right now they are too busy trying to discredit the reporters from multiple news outlets and their sources as new incriminating evidence surfaces while maintaining the party line.
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