This. Grad assistant is a kid right out of school with no influence or power. I'm not giving him a pass but it's totally different from a real coach/grown man.
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This probability is based on what--experience? Mathematical modeling? Laws of thermodynamics? Re-normalization? Of course, if you replace "There is likely" with "I believe there is," then there is no objection.
As for your assertion that people who believe in an afterlife of some sort are weak-minded, simple people who can't handle the idea of life ending, that is based in arrogance with a tinge of ignorance. Many people who accept the idea of the possibility of an afterlife freely acknowledge that this might be it. Your belief is of no greater value than theirs.
So the truth comes out. DNA is a Ped fan. Figures.
No wonder he skipped town when money talk started in the other thread about apparel deals. Classless.
No wonder he skipped town when money talk started in the other thread about apparel deals. Classless.
You out yourself right here. No rational person would ever equate an altercation in an elevator with covering up child rape. "BUT I SAID 'NOT SAYING HIS CRIMES ARE IN THE THE SAME LIGHT'". Then why mention it at all? Because you're trying to sow a thread of self reflection. After all, you reason, how could we possibly judge anyone else when a former player committed a crime also?
No. They are not within the same galactic plane of comparison, and your attempt to align the two is obvious and pathetic.
No I'm actually not, I just don't subscribe to the school of thought like this board does that everything penn state does is evil and Joe Paterno is Satan. My little cousin with special needs met Joe years ago at a special Olympics Pa event, got her picture and it was one of the highlights of her childhood. The man has personally made my family happy so he's ok in my book and I understand that people make mistakes and aren't perfect, even if that mistake is a huge one but I know DAMN well that none of u are perfect and live without sin, and because this board is anonymous and u have no fear of being caught saying this garbage by your boss, employer, friends you just troll penn state, hey whatever helps u sleep at night.
It's one of the reasons why this board doesn't keep many new posters and the same people are always posting.
As for why I didn't respond to the money apparel deals thing, well you see unlike at least 50% of this board I actually work for a living and don't live in my parents basement. I can't spend all day and night am checking this message board, there's other things I need to take care of.
Caliknight. Email me at thisguy31690@yahoo.com and I will be happy to send over a picture of my Rutgers Diploma. Just so there's no questioning it, I will tell you ahead of time that my name is 'David Nathan Atkinson' (Thus DNA). And I will happily send you over my Rutgers degree so you can shut the f*ck up with your high and mighty routine.
Agreed. Ever hear of a typo. Given the gravity of the content from the OP, joking about a typo is pretty sad.
I went over there for a few minutes. Right now the sycophants still defending Joe Pa are saying it's a government conspiracy.
The joke is if they would of just paid the 60 million it would of gone away. They are the ones keeping it going and digging the hole deeper and deeper.
If they really want to see the problem as of today. All they need to do is look in the mirror.
The joke is if they would of just paid the 60 million it would of gone away. They are the ones keeping it going and digging the hole deeper and deeper.
If they really want to see the problem as of today. All they need to do is look in the mirror.
It wasn't a typo. Was going for effect, as it seems every day the news gets worse than the day before with this story. The cult continue to deny and belittle the claims of the victims, who are just looking for a payout, or they belittle the media for not having anything to back up the new claims. However, with this latest story, why would Victim A make this up? He already was paid in the settlement.
So why is it that you take the most extreme crazies from Penn State and lump them together with the rest and majority of the fanbase.
I swear Internet message board muscles are terrifying.
Like really all these pages about another school just so u can bash and troll them. What a bunch of losers you all are. No doubt most of u don't have a degree from RU and YES mrs. screw, it makes a difference.
Later losers
I have to say, two odd things about the latest acqusations.....had JS done "so many good things" in 1981? Also why would the person get nervous and hang up when "Joe and Jim" threatened to call the authorities? Isn't that what he wanted?
Not saying When the JS abuse started, but this account seems a little strange....btw i think the unrelenting denial over at PSU is sickening.
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An apparent piece of shit made your special family member happy so he's okay in your book.
Meanwhile, his help in covering up ongoing child rapes for decades caused a living hell for dozens of kids and their families and friends. Joe didn't make a huge mistake as you state just once. Joe continually made the same calculated evil decision for 20 plus years. And mind you, it wasn't a mistake. It was a decision he made to not have Sandusky arrested that he could have changed at anytime but never did.
Your defending of this situation kind of says all we need to know about you.
DNA22 is REPPIN Jerz. Victim A was included in the $60 million payout by Penn State so I assume Penn State agrees with the actual incident.
DNA - some day you should go see the movie Spotlight, and learn that the real shame around child molesters like Sandusky is not the sick individuals (like Sandusky) themselves, who are obviously demented, but those who know about them and fail to take appropriate action. The award winning editor of the Boston Globe, Marty Baron, realized that, and you apparently don't.
That's literally the equivalent of a guy going out and robbing a bank and his wife knowing about it and u are solely blaming the wife. Twisted individuals on this board but hey like I said there's a bright side to all this... It certainly gives ammo to the posters who live and die to Simply bash penn state on this board (Madhat, GSGS, PatrickRU, Screw, etc) it's always the same ones. Notice how I keep saying the SAME be everyone on this board doesn't want to hear anything different than their helm of thought and this board is a safe haven for crazies and not reality. If I see a guy wearing a Psu shirt I'm not gonna think one way or another about it but some of u are just so wrapped up in sports that u just focus on negatives of ur "rival" so u can make ur selves feel better when PSU beats us every year.
Some of us are so wrapped up in sports? Are you serious? Honest question...have you ever read comments on Penn Live or BWI? All the PSU lunatics bring up football and claim everyone else (Pitt, Rutgers, Florida State, Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State, etc.) are just "jealous" of Joe's 409 wins. It is Penn State fanatics who make this about football because apparently a majority of them hold PSU football and Joe Paterno's legacy as the most important things in their lives. I'm glad that Joe Paterno was nice to your special needs relative but that doesn't mean that he handled the Sandusky situation the right way. And i'm one of the few on here that's willing to cut Joe some slack. But who disgusts me are the PSU supporters who are so quick to blame the journalist Sara Ganim, the witness Bernie McCue, the PSU BOT, ESPN, CNN, the insurance carriers and the most disgusting of all...blaming the victims and dismissing them as just "looking for a pay day". Sadly these fools can't for one minute comprehend and accept the fact that maybe trying to handle these crimes "in house" was a bad move on Joe and the administrations part. Now I absolutely LOATHE the media. I also worked in insurance liability defense for a decade so I understand carriers will leave no stone un-turned when trying to find coverage for an insured. I also hate frivolous claims and fraudulent plaintiffs. However, i read "Victim A's" sworn testimony (yes, depositions are taken under oath) and would not depict him as a fraud and Penn State already paid his claim so they must have felt it had some validity even if they did reach a "nuisance settlement". Sorry PSU cult, this is indeed a story and the media is doing their job by reporting it. The PSU crew can't seem to acknowledge or accept this because to them Joe Paterno is infallible. It is idol worship and to be honest it's borderline scary. Just because Joe donated money and buildings and his time to the university does not mean that he handled the Sandusky crimes the best way.
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Because he was a teenager at the time who was living a tough life with foster homes etc. and was being yelled at, accused and threatened. Read the article.
Oh, and he was just raped after a struggle by a man. He wasn't exactly in a stable mind state.
Um to tell u the truth no, I really don't read Penn Live or BWI because I have a degree from Rutgers. Why would I even care to read their board unless it's the week of our game? Of course theirs going to be crazy extreme fans who worship Joe Pa over there. It's penn state. Paterno was royalty in that town.
My question is why do u care so much what they think? I mean does it REALLY effect your life in a significant way the way you are making it out to sound that some of their fans still love Joe Pa? I mean I wake up every morning, kiss my wife, say hi to my son, and my day goes on from there. I mean do u wake up every morning thinking "God Damnit I hate Joe Pa!" If you do, I might understand why what they say might upset you so much. But if you read this thread, there really aren't any PSU apologists on here stiring stuff up, it's literally been a pissing match between RU posters of who can come up with the most clever insult.
Personally I think it's kind of childish and immature. But hey whatever floats your boat
Lol. The better question is why do PSU fans care what WE think? I read penn live and bwi to get perspective on recruiting but I don t comment. I only post here. I was actually very happy when this story died 4 years ago as I was sick of hearing about it. And if you read my post I don't hate Joe Pa. I really don't care about him either way. Guy is dead 4 years now. Maybe from a psychological/sociological standpoint I find it fascinating that non-relatives still jump to his defense all this while later. Jay and Scott Paterno doing so is understandable. Former players? Understandable. PSU fans/alum who most likely didn't know the man? Bats#it crazy if you ask me. And don't worry, Howie and his buddies will be here any time now to defend his precious legacy because as you will come to learn PSU fans care so much about what WE say...not really the other way around.
There are simply so many allegations from so many different people spanning such a long period of time that it defies logic to think that Joe wasn't well aware of what was going on. Even if 90% was BS, the remaining 10% was still more than enough. Add in Joe's stature there and how that would have virtually assured that he was made aware, and I just can't see how a rational adult could still defend him. You can't legitimately argue he didn't know, and if that is the case, then you also lose the right to argue that he did his moral duty, given that kids continued to get hurt years later. Disgusting situation, and if Greg knew and did nothing too, then he is reprehensible as well.
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Again, one or two crazies doesn't represent an entire fan base. And ur talking about them "being along" while it's been two pages of insults when nope, no PSU troll in sight.
It's so much easier to be critical of others than yourself, that's pretty obvious here as lots of people have all kinds of good reasons why it should be their right to criticize PSU while never reflecting on themselves and realizing that the ONLY reason they are doing so is in hope that some PSU poster gets upset by it. It's simply meant to attack others with no other reason. It's called being a cynical asshole and a shitty human being, but if that's what floats ur boat...
OK, David. What do you think of this:
JoePed-a man who enables 40 years of pedophilia is not a man.
Who forgets about horrific incidents in 1971, 1976, 1987, 1988, 1988(again), 1998 and 2001 and does nothing?
One or two? LOL! You are clearly a Penn State supporter which is fine. Check the newspapers, nj.com, watch ESPN and HBO real sports. People are constantly critical of Rutgers. I guess they are all cynical assholes and shitty human beings too. Thanks for stopping by.
If people in 2016 are getting yelled at by these cult people for merely givining their opinion about this, imagine if you're the victim in the 1970s, trying to tell anyone that someone on the holier than thou... purer than white snow football staff raped you???
Of course you tend keep your mouth shut back then.
New York Times weighs in with an editorial on the Paterno family. Spot on IMO:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/s...se-of-joe-paterno-in-jerry-sandusky-case.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/s...se-of-joe-paterno-in-jerry-sandusky-case.html
There are limits to greed, evil, privilege, narcissism, arrogance/ deviant behavior: and this exceeds all of them.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/06/us/jerry-sandusky-victims-paterno-penn-state/index.html
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/06/us/jerry-sandusky-victims-paterno-penn-state/index.html
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Great story, however, how on Earth does it make up for 3 decades of knowing that your good friend, and assistant coach, was raping teenage boys? If you truly believe it does - and you pretty much say as much "he's ok my book" - then you're every bit the "cult" member as the rest of the alumni and fan base
The problem with all of this is the Paterno family. These people need to shut the hell up and go away! They need to be banished out of State College and forced to live in Siberia---never to be heard from again. Some of the cultists seem to feed off their every word and continue to behave poorly.
In these days of PC, anything disparaging is ripe for a lawsuit. Also, If Schiano harbors any hopes of being involved in PSU football in the future, any negative comments would poison ANYONE at Ped State. Remember, Jo Pa is STILL a God there.
And what is there to gain by him waxing poetic about things he knows little about? About suspisions he may or may not have had as a grad assistant? Will Sandusky get a few more years? Will the opinion of Paterno change for anyone? A smoking gun won't do that.
And what is there to gain by him waxing poetic about things he knows little about? About suspisions he may or may not have had as a grad assistant? Will Sandusky get a few more years? Will the opinion of Paterno change for anyone? A smoking gun won't do that.
"Aside from the scandal, he still did a tremendous amount for that school and if people from that school want to support him it's their right to do so."
"HE is the monster, Penn State is What he used as his podium, but the choices fall solely on Sandusky."
"That's literally the equivalent of a guy going out and robbing a bank and his wife knowing about it and u are solely blaming the wife"
Holy freakin' crap. How can this be the mentality of any human on earth??? You're comparing a bank robbery to young kids getting raped? One ruins peoples lives for the rest of their life, a bank robbery doesn't do that.
Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
I always felt Joe probably knew and/or should-have-known. And he either didn't care or didn't want to pay attention to it.
But, now it's very very very clear Joe knew and covered it up - he is deeply guilty. And if Joe is guilty the entire program is guilty.
The original penalties were minimally reasonable - the backtracking by the NCAA was ill-advised.
The program should have gotten the death penalty
But, now it's very very very clear Joe knew and covered it up - he is deeply guilty. And if Joe is guilty the entire program is guilty.
The original penalties were minimally reasonable - the backtracking by the NCAA was ill-advised.
The program should have gotten the death penalty
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You worked for six years under Jerry Sandusky. Did you have any inkling of what was going on?
Worst answer - Yeah we knew terrible things were going on but we didn't want to make and issue because it might affect our career.
Bad answer - There were rumors but I didn't see anything or say anything.
Questionable answer - Schiano's.
Best answer - No idea whatsoever. I have zero tolerance for child abuse and would have taken action if I had any concerns.
Worst answer - Yeah we knew terrible things were going on but we didn't want to make and issue because it might affect our career.
Bad answer - There were rumors but I didn't see anything or say anything.
Questionable answer - Schiano's.
Best answer - No idea whatsoever. I have zero tolerance for child abuse and would have taken action if I had any concerns.
Wait a minute the company: J. Paterno Life & Trust NA is reputable.... unless the NA stands for Not Applicable.
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State Penn: Tear down that Statue!
