This. JoePa and child rapist Sandusky and others who knew of these heinous crimes and did nothing rot in a tortuous hell for eternity .
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This. JoePa and child rapist Sandusky and others who knew of these heinous crimes and did nothing rot in a tortuous hell for eternity .
You have to log out of your screen name. At least I do or I can't even read their board
Towards the bottom (same link as OP)
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/06/us/je...penn-state0957PMStoryGalPhoto&linkId=24234146
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/06/us/jerry-sandusky-victims-paterno-penn-state/
Sandusky victim: Joe Paterno told me to drop abuse accusation
Victim A becomes outraged and visibly upset when he talks to people who can't seem to get past the impact the scandal had on their idol, Paterno.
"State College is a disgusting place, the way they treat crimes against kids," he said. "We are living in a very sick atmosphere."
The other has spoken to CNN, in great detail, explaining how he was a troubled young kid in 1971 when he was raped in a Penn State bathroom by Jerry Sandusky. Then, he says, his complaint about it was ignored by Paterno.
For this story, we'll call him Victim A -- in keeping with the way that authorities have labeled the Sandusky accusers.
"I'd be willing to sit on a witness stand and confront Joe Paterno," he told CNN last year. "Unfortunately he died and I didn't get to."
In addition, a Pennsylvania State Trooper, a longtime friend of this man, also confirmed to CNN that days after Sandusky's initial arrest in November 2011, he told the trooper his story.
Around that same time, this alleged victim hired a lawyer who alerted the state Attorney General's Office and also Penn State University to his existence. Neither investigative body ever interviewed the man, since he fell outside the statute of limitations for both criminal and civil cases.
In addition, a Pennsylvania State Trooper, a longtime friend of this man, also confirmed to CNN that days after Sandusky's initial arrest in November 2011, he told the trooper his story.
Around that same time, this alleged victim hired a lawyer who alerted the state Attorney General's Office and also Penn State University to his existence. Neither investigative body ever interviewed the man, since he fell outside the statute of limitations for both criminal and civil cases.
A day after the assault, Victim A's foster mom noticed the cut on his head. She pestered him about what happened. And when he told her, she and her husband -- who owned a local bowling alley and knew many high-ranking school officials -- called Penn State against his wishes. "I was blindsided," he said, adding that his foster father told him, "I assure you the police won't be called, but you gotta tell these people what happened."
He found himself on the phone with two men from Penn State.
"I tell them what happened -- well, I couldn't get it out of me that I was -- I can't even tell it to this day. It's just degrading -- that I was raped," he said.
"I told the story up to a certain point. I told them that he grabbed me and that I got the hell out of there."
He insisted that he "made it very clear" it was a sexual attack.
"I made it clear there were things done to me that I just can't believe could have been done to me and I couldn't escape. I said, 'I'm very upset and scared and I couldn't believe I let my guard down.' They listened to me. And then all hell broke loose.
"They were asking me my motive, why I would say this about someone who has done so many good things."
They accused him of making it up. "'Stop this right now! We'll call the authorities,'" he said they told him.
Victim A says he couldn't think. "I just wanted to get off the phone."
The men on the phone had introduced themselves as Jim and Joe, he said. He had no idea who Jim was, and can't, to this day, say for sure.
"There was no question in my mind who Joe was," he said. "I've heard that voice a million times. It was Joe Paterno."
Sandusky victim: Joe Paterno told me to drop abuse accusation
Victim A becomes outraged and visibly upset when he talks to people who can't seem to get past the impact the scandal had on their idol, Paterno.
"State College is a disgusting place, the way they treat crimes against kids," he said. "We are living in a very sick atmosphere."
The other has spoken to CNN, in great detail, explaining how he was a troubled young kid in 1971 when he was raped in a Penn State bathroom by Jerry Sandusky. Then, he says, his complaint about it was ignored by Paterno.
For this story, we'll call him Victim A -- in keeping with the way that authorities have labeled the Sandusky accusers.
"I'd be willing to sit on a witness stand and confront Joe Paterno," he told CNN last year. "Unfortunately he died and I didn't get to."
In addition, a Pennsylvania State Trooper, a longtime friend of this man, also confirmed to CNN that days after Sandusky's initial arrest in November 2011, he told the trooper his story.
Around that same time, this alleged victim hired a lawyer who alerted the state Attorney General's Office and also Penn State University to his existence. Neither investigative body ever interviewed the man, since he fell outside the statute of limitations for both criminal and civil cases.
In addition, a Pennsylvania State Trooper, a longtime friend of this man, also confirmed to CNN that days after Sandusky's initial arrest in November 2011, he told the trooper his story.
Around that same time, this alleged victim hired a lawyer who alerted the state Attorney General's Office and also Penn State University to his existence. Neither investigative body ever interviewed the man, since he fell outside the statute of limitations for both criminal and civil cases.
A day after the assault, Victim A's foster mom noticed the cut on his head. She pestered him about what happened. And when he told her, she and her husband -- who owned a local bowling alley and knew many high-ranking school officials -- called Penn State against his wishes. "I was blindsided," he said, adding that his foster father told him, "I assure you the police won't be called, but you gotta tell these people what happened."
He found himself on the phone with two men from Penn State.
"I tell them what happened -- well, I couldn't get it out of me that I was -- I can't even tell it to this day. It's just degrading -- that I was raped," he said.
"I told the story up to a certain point. I told them that he grabbed me and that I got the hell out of there."
He insisted that he "made it very clear" it was a sexual attack.
"I made it clear there were things done to me that I just can't believe could have been done to me and I couldn't escape. I said, 'I'm very upset and scared and I couldn't believe I let my guard down.' They listened to me. And then all hell broke loose.
"They were asking me my motive, why I would say this about someone who has done so many good things."
They accused him of making it up. "'Stop this right now! We'll call the authorities,'" he said they told him.
Victim A says he couldn't think. "I just wanted to get off the phone."
The men on the phone had introduced themselves as Jim and Joe, he said. He had no idea who Jim was, and can't, to this day, say for sure.
"There was no question in my mind who Joe was," he said. "I've heard that voice a million times. It was Joe Paterno."
Oh no, let's close our eyes to the posibility that other coaches on that team were aware,
screw those 12 year olds, we have to protect all football teams (RU, Penn St.) all coaches
Paterno, Schiano. Is this what we are talking about? Not the rapes, but the indifference?
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Of course not! Everybody knows it should be most worsest!
Who suggested anything about turning a blind eye? Some here would accuse anybody who is lefty of being a witch.
It don't not get any worsest than the most most worsest!
I changed the thread title because it seemed to offend the sensibilities of some, not that the topic of the thread should do that. :rolleyes:
Not insinuating that Coach Schiano knew or didn't know of Sandusky's deeds before the scandal broke in 2011, but I always thought that seeing Paterno dragged through the mud played a major role in him deciding to bolt for the NFL the very next season.
They need to be reminded. Such a heinous crime shouldn't be forgotten or swept away like it never happened.
Im sure the coaching staff wasn't a bunch of devils; so would most people do what these coaches and many others at pen state did and not get more involved in these rumors? The 70's-early 90s was a different time, there was way more privacy and the need to intervene in certain uncomfortable situations was less than today.
This whole situation sucks - and I'm sure a lot of decent people will have their name dragged through the mud . Sandusky really fukked up.
This whole situation sucks - and I'm sure a lot of decent people will have their name dragged through the mud . Sandusky really fukked up.
No sir , young boys getting raped at your place of business by co workers /former co workers is never ok . I don't care if it's 1978 or 2078 .
"Oh, don't worry about those screams. You know how Jerry gets when there's little boys around!"
I have no respect for anyone who was on the Penn State coaching staff those years. And because of what he did for Rutgers, I'm sad to say that includes Schiano.
Nothing being done to keep Sandusky away from children and allowing him to use Penn State in order to get close to them is truly disgusting and shows just how the scum rose to the top there in the name of Football. .
Idiots like me??? surely you jest. trying to make others feel bad about themselves? they should do that all on their own if they continue to spew the jopa protecting BS that they do. and it's not just the BWI nuts, I had 2 vendors in my office this week who were saying poor joe, he did what he was obligated to. People may say it is horrid what happened, and on that we can all agree, but talk to them. get them to discuss joe and you will see they all think he got a raw deal. I've yet to talk to one psu fan that thinks joe deserved sanctions and statue removal or any other actions taken against him. "he did what he was legally supposed to". and I and many others call BS on that.
and by the way, it shouldn't matter if a fan went to the school or not to consider them a fan. there is a large percentage of people on this board who didn't go to RU but support the school and the athletic department..
I, too, attended the psu game last year. yes, the people were very nice when we tailgated and wandered through the RV lot. yes we had a mostly good time except for the outcome of the game, the weather and the jerk who ran through our tailgate and stole our R flag. BUT, when I saw the memorial to Joe I knew it was not just a small few that had drank the Kool Aid ..it is the masses. Jonestown 2.
photo from outside the stadium....where people were PRAYING. Joe Knew.
So in case u didn't know Joe Paterno also built both a library and chapel on the penn state campus. Aside from the scandal, he still did a tremendous amount for that school and if people from that school want to support him it's their right to do so.
I've seen many posters here saying Ray Rice deserves another shot in the NFL, not saying his crimes are in the same light but the only person who has had any charges against him so far is Jerey Sandusky himself.
What's most alarming is never once in this post did I see a person bash Sandusky, I'm honestly more disgusted that this asshole was doing this for 30 years or more. Using Penn State to lure children. HE is the monster, Penn State is What he used as his podium, but the choices fall solely on Sandusky.
Sigh it's alright, at least this will give some of u ammo for the never ending bash penn state train that roles through here weekly. Lord knows Rutgers isn't beating Penn State on the field anytime soon so I guess whatever helps u sleep at night.
Greg will be applying for the HC job next time it opens. Of course he won't say anything that would eliminate his chances.
Pretty sure he means left-handed, not leftist. Lots of bias against lefties throughout history, including being labelled as witches and worse...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_against_left-handed_people
There is no way that school is dumb enough to bring in a coach from the rape era. Actually..
This a little different than your normal situation so not sure this applies. We are not just talking about a neighbor here.
Well we know that McQueery saw an actual act occurring and didn't physically intervene. Do we have any reason to believe that in terms of the prevailing culture, he was the outlier?
OK I see your context - I think my question remains valid though. Not rhetorical. Maybe since McQueery was a mere grad assistant, he lacked the confidence to intervene where others may have.
