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Biggest fraud being pushed on the fans is that when we get a full share things will be different. When we finally do get a full share the politicians, administration, unions, etc. will grab their share and only give a token back to athletics.Hobbs is not getting fired and Ash will be here next year. Hobbs hired what he could afford to hire. When all the buyouts are paid and we get a full share is when we will be able to really do something.
I think a lot of people agreed that you had to look at progress in addition to the raw win-loss record.I was in the school in that as long as forward progress kept forwarding, Ash should have the chance to rebuild this program right. Yesterday was the car crash that stopped everything in its tracks. And now it looks like he is losing his team in the locker room.
I keep saying that I think people keep seeing a full share as some panacea and it's a false notion. Having more money doesn't guarantee you anything as we see countless programs with more resources misfire on their hirings.Hobbs is not getting fired and Ash will be here next year. Hobbs hired what he could afford to hire. When all the buyouts are paid and we get a full share is when we will be able to really do something.
Not just that I think we wasted 2 years on developing an offense with the OC choices and now I think a 3rd year by trying an offense which is likely not best suited for a school like us longer term.I think a lot of people agreed that you had to look at progress in addition to the raw win-loss record.
However, getting blown out by Kansas is not progress.
us? And you make it sound like he wanted to do "us" harm. A bad decision? Sure. Some of the rhetoric and butt hurt on this board is funny. Enjoy your Sunday and maybe forget about Rutgers football for the day.No, Hobbs completely ****ed us over with a totally unmerited extension. It's just too expensive right now.
Ehhh... That's what I said.I think a lot of people agreed that you had to look at progress in addition to the raw win-loss record.
However, getting blown out by Kansas is not progress.
I've seen the extension mentioned a lot and thought it would be appropriate to set the record straight on it. When Hobbs hired Ash, the NCAA investigation of the Flood regime was ongoing and it was written into the original contract that upon resolution, Ash would be extended for whatever period of time the program was put on probation. So when two years of probation were handed down, it automatically triggered the extension. Folks are free to debate the wisdom of that clause within the context of the initial hire, just so long as everyone understands that Hobbs didn't just choose to extend Ash when he did- he had to.No, Hobbs completely ****ed us over with a totally unmerited extension. It's just too expensive right now.
You could name an interim head Coach ,even McNulty.Fired and replaced with who?
is that contract public record? Would be a good read to see that and WHY it was put in the contract? Was It was done at initial contract because that is murky since there has been past reports that Ash started year #1 without a 'written contract" and only signed one in year #2..I've seen the extension mentioned a lot and thought it would be appropriate to set the record straight on it. When Hobbs hired Ash, the NCAA investigation of the Flood regime was ongoing and it was written into the original contract that upon resolution, Ash would be extended for whatever period of time the program was put on probation. So when two years of probation were handed down, it automatically triggered the extension. Folks are free to debate the wisdom of that clause within the context of the initial hire, just so long as everyone understands that Hobbs didn't just choose to extend Ash when he did- he had to.
The first two years were actually under a memorandum of understanding/agreement the "extension" was actually his first official contract. So by my understanding basically a 5 year contract that we're in year 1 of even though it's year 3 of his tenure.You could name an interim head Coach ,even McNulty.
is that contract public record? Would be a good read to see that and WHY it was put in the contract? Was It was done at initial contract because that is murky since there has been past reports that Ash started year #1 without a 'written contract" and only signed one in year #2..
It was reported in the Ledger at the time. I'll see if I can find it on the web...You could name an interim head Coach ,even McNulty.
is that contract public record? Would be a good read to see that and WHY it was put in the contract? Was It was done at initial contract because that is murky since there has been past reports that Ash started year #1 without a 'written contract" and only signed one in year #2..
This is correct and I don't like that clause, it's not as if we had Miami level violations with Flood. It shouldn't have really affected any incoming coach to the point where he needed that extra time IMO.I've seen the extension mentioned a lot and thought it would be appropriate to set the record straight on it. When Hobbs hired Ash, the NCAA investigation of the Flood regime was ongoing and it was written into the original contract that upon resolution, Ash would be extended for whatever period of time the program was put on probation. So when two years of probation were handed down, it automatically triggered the extension. Folks are free to debate the wisdom of that clause within the context of the initial hire, just so long as everyone understands that Hobbs didn't just choose to extend Ash when he did- he had to.
We're talking about spending 15mm man all in to get him out, pay off assistants and hire a new band.Ash gets fired if he does not win Four games. The media pressure,the dumpster of recruiting and empty stands,along with lack of fan support will over ride the money worries with less then four wins.Hobbs is in a no win either way,the longer he keeps Ash,the deeper the program sinks,less donations,less season tickets.He gave Ash the fateful extension..now Hobbs must fix it...somehow.
Need to pay for those therapy visits ...Julie Hermann gets a gigantic payout. Ash gets a huge contract before winning. Who says the NJ resident isn't living in a terribly expensive, unaffordable and overtaxed State. NJ decision makers spend money like it grows on trees.
Can't do the Temple thing. The B1G has stipulations put in place that all athletic money you receive goes directly to athletics. They do this because they have television contracts to protect. Now they may take more from the academic side, but they've been doing that for decades.Biggest fraud being pushed on the fans is that when we get a full share things will be different. When we finally do get a full share the politicians, administration, unions, etc. will grab their share and only give a token back to athletics.
So Flood truly is the gift that keeps on giving. The prior signed contract stipulates for every year on sanctions a year will be added to Ash's contract. The school went out and recommended harsher penalties than the NCAA has handed out in similar situations. Flood's actions led direct to those sanctions.As per @IvyLeagueFootball
Goto page 4 and read the 2nd paragraph under Compliance and Termination.
https://2michy3wy0l30d34041dt1et-wp...acts/chrisash-rutgers-employment-contract.pdf
Yea the extra years were related to the probation but I don't think it was necessary. We didn't have some Miami level violations or anything close. No incoming coach should have been given that kind of leeway IMO and if they wanted one then we should have moved on to the next guy.So Flood truly is the gift that keeps on giving. The prior signed contract stipulates for every year on sanctions a year will be added to Ash's contract. The school went out and recommended harsher penalties than the NCAA has handed out in similar situations. Flood's actions led direct to those sanctions.
So not only did Flood cause the sanctions, the school itself then put itself in a worse pickle. My God, it's been nothing but self inflicted wounds for over 3 decades running.