You'd need your head examined to come and coach or be an AD at this school at this point.
I think so far Pikiell is very happy with his decision
You'd need your head examined to come and coach or be an AD at this school at this point.
I think so far Pikiell is very happy with his decision
Don't fool yourselves.. Pike can become a hot ticket, even without a NCAA tourney bid. He's already impressed many, and 18-19 wins at Rutgers, could have Schools coming for him. With Rutgers self eroding history, Pike might just want away from this - if the AD he's secure with, is pushed out for football purposes
For now.
From those who would know and I've now heard from, what happened on the softball team is very typical of what you see when a new coach comes in.
No major conference school with tournament hopes is hiring a coach that hasn't made it. Imagine if we hired Pat Chambers three years ago
Need to know if having softball players run to they hurl really happened.
This isn’t 1990 or even 2000.
More so than the running is any verbal abuse.
They way our AD responded to the media is totally not acceptable.
What about UCONN or (gulp) Seton Hall
Bac the buyout talk means something
Pike is really really happy here
As long as we keep doing what we are doing ...he is going to be here as long as the program does well
great but if he is winning then Rutgers is winning and the new AD will try to keep a winning coach, if he leaves fine, RU is winning and the job is attractive
our fans always worry about something that hasnt even happened or if it does happen, it means we have arrived...
There is nothing unusual about what a new coach coming into a program did from those who would know.
Not if winning is important.
As a parent of a D1 athlete in a non revenue sport winning is so low on the list of what is important.
It is in his contract because he had some leverage, his agent asked for it and got it. RU admin probably agreed because, before the extension, his buyout was only $900k. Even with the 50 percent reduction clause his buyout would still be more than $900k except in that final year.Missing the point. Why would that be in his contract? If a new AD comes in that is focused on football, he has an easier out. It not time to panic but there is a lot of uncertainty right now.
That could change if Hobbs is removed and Schiano comes in. The writing would be on the wall that FB was 1st, 2nd and 3rd and basketball was a distant 4th. That was the way it was when Schiano was here.
Fortunately we got a great FB program and an invitation to B1G
The reason why it was this way because this athletic department had NO money ...
Times have changed ...there is enough revenue coming in to make this work
Think Hobbs seen the frustration the fanbase had over the state of RU FB under Ash and felt showing a willingness to get out in front of the problem was needed .the whole situation is strange.....if we are to wait till the end of the season for a search and hire, as is a normal thing, why fire Ash a few games into this season?
nothing seems to be gained, and a few players are lost....at least temporarily...
if outside pressure made Hobbs fire Ash, the same outside pressure is probably in play to announce Greg...... I would guess
otherwise, what has been gained here?
I agree with you. The clause is there to benefit Pike if there is an AD change.It is in his contract because he had some leverage, his agent asked for it and got it. RU admin probably agreed because, before the extension, his buyout was only $900k. Even with the 50 percent reduction clause his buyout would still be more than $900k except in that final year.
I asked around and was told that is not an unusual clause.
Pikiell reminds me a lot of Schiano. Since he first started, you can see progress every year towards respectability and improvement. I never saw that with the other recent coaches. In fact I saw the opposite, especially with Ash.
Rutgers is stupid enough to can Hobbs. If I were Pikiell and Hobbs isn't here I would look to leave soon too. If Hobbs is canned it will be clear to anyone with any sense that Rutgers just doesn't know what it takes to be a good athletic program and I would not hitch my wagon to it.I’m okay with or without Schiano, but if Hobbs gets fired, that would be the worst decision ever. And I was a student during the prime of the Schiano era. I mean, look at all of the upgrades that Hobbs has brought to Rutgers athletics. Not to mention bringing on Sarah Baumgartner, who’s a hell of a fundraiser herself. Now if it’s the majority of the donors that they raised money from that want their jobs, then well, they’re doomed. But if it’s just a couple of the donors, the rest need to stand up for Hobbs. As far as I’m concerned, it could as very well been someone else pulling his arm to hire Ash. And wasn’t there a clause supposedly that incentivized extending Ash? If anything, it could have been Barchi being cheap in the first place. He’s made some historically bad decisions in regards to Rutgers athletics. Looking back, the initial supporting staff for Ash was pretty poor. You pay for what you get.
He would be smart to leave. If Hobbs goes it would be a clear sign that the Athletic Department is too unstable and is unlikely to ever work like a real AD office.Don't fool yourselves.. Pike can become a hot ticket, even without a NCAA tourney bid. He's already impressed many, and 18-19 wins at Rutgers, could have Schools coming for him. With Rutgers self eroding history, Pike might just want away from this - if the AD he's secure with, is pushed out for football purposes
Do you even Rutgers?!? Not knowing what it takes to be a good (heck mediocre) athletic program is the hallmark of the AD...Rutgers is stupid enough to can Hobbs. If I were Pikiell and Hobbs isn't here I would look to leave soon too. If Hobbs is canned it will be clear to anyone with any sense that Rutgers just doesn't know what it takes to be a good athletic program and I would not hitch my wagon to it.
Yes - that is RutgersDo you even Rutgers?!? Not knowing what it takes to be a good (heck mediocre) athletic program is the hallmark of the AD...
I’m okay with or without Schiano, but if Hobbs gets fired, that would be the worst decision ever. And I was a student during the prime of the Schiano era. I mean, look at all of the upgrades that Hobbs has brought to Rutgers athletics. Not to mention bringing on Sarah Baumgartner, who’s a hell of a fundraiser herself. Now if it’s the majority of the donors that they raised money from that want their jobs, then well, they’re doomed. But if it’s just a couple of the donors, the rest need to stand up for Hobbs. As far as I’m concerned, it could as very well been someone else pulling his arm to hire Ash. And wasn’t there a clause supposedly that incentivized extending Ash? If anything, it could have been Barchi being cheap in the first place. He’s made some historically bad decisions in regards to Rutgers athletics. Looking back, the initial supporting staff for Ash was pretty poor. You pay for what you get.
There is never enough money. There are 3 schools in our division with football stadiums that hold over 100,000. That means they earn about $15MM-$20MM more just in ticket revenue. Add donations, etc. to that. Our entire football budget is only $26MM. If we get more money from the Big Ten, they get the same amount of money from the Big Ten. We can never catch up.The reason why it was this way because this athletic department had NO money ...
Times have changed ...there is enough revenue coming in to make this work
There is never enough money. There are 3 schools in our division with football stadiums that hold over 100,000. That means they earn about $15MM-$20MM more just in ticket revenue. Add donations, etc. to that. Our entire football budget is only $26MM. If we get more money from the Big Ten, they get the same amount of money from the Big Ten. We can never catch up.
The buyout is meaningless. Pike is only leaving for a bigger school and a bigger school is only coming if we go to the NCAAs. If a bigger school wants him at that point and he wants to go the buyout isn’t stopping anything.
Hurley and Willard both made tournaments at their schools before getting hired. If there's a power conference school who hired another power conference coach without that coach having been to the dance I'd be very surprised.
It is in his contract because he had some leverage, his agent asked for it and got it. RU admin probably agreed because, before the extension, his buyout was only $900k. Even with the 50 percent reduction clause his buyout would still be more than $900k except in that final year.
I asked around and was told that is not an unusual clause.
Terrible mistake to fire Hobbs. Yes, he screwed up with Ash. Almost everything else has been impressive. Don't create more rifts and instability, please.Rumor on FB Board by a respected poster (RU4Real) are that High level donors are trying to get Hobbs canned. May have to do with Hobbs not wanting to hire Schiano and other matters and surely the softball matter today doesn't help.
I'm not a big Hobbs fan but what I do admire of him is his passion for Basketball.
My big concern if Hobbs is canned or resigns is how this makes Pike feel. Will Pike feel nervous about another AD coming on board given Hobbs hired him.
I'm sure the answer is no given what Pike has done for the BB Program but if the above occurs, I can't help but feel nervous / queasy.
Sorry it's just the RU paranoia in me.....:)...that once things get good - some thing bad has to happen.
Please calm my fears...:).......is it November 7th yet?