Rutgers men's lax chances -- rooting interests
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Something fishy going on in the Big East Conference and it ain't the missing lobster up in Providence. 1 year, O well upsets happen. Two years in a row,:confused: really?. Three years in a row,:eek: well that's now a pattern and not merely a coincidence.
Why is Denver even in the Big East for Lax? The whole thing is messed up. The BE definitely let’s them be in but as part of the deal they have to sit their starters in the conference tourney so another team gets in. Denver still gets the Big East championships (regular season), and they get into the tourney. Without the BE Denver would be nothing, and the conference gets a second team in = more money. It’s not a conspiracy it’s business and it’s also BS
The optics of Denver losing yet again are bad but does anyone really think the players on that team didn’t want to win the game to win a championship?
Do you think they really give a shit about the Big East pocketing a few more bucks?
Do you think they really give a shit about the Big East pocketing a few more bucks?
I had dinner last night with an ex Princeton LAX player, who happened to be All American and National champ under Tierney.
He told me there’s not a chance in hell Tierney would throw a game, especially if it meant giving up a bye in the tourney.
This is very true. Georgetown is better than I think you may realize. They lost to Denver 6-5 a month ago. Georgetown is solid defensively which is Kevin Warnes specialty. He has built a pretty good roster that took their lumps the past few years while getting experience. Their goalie was lights out yesterday. I follow them and believe they could win a game or two in the tournament. Bottom line is Denver didn’t throw anything they lost to a good team.
Don’t think this impacts us. Cornell was getting in win or lose.
Believe it or not, Cornell winning over Yale may catapult Rutgers into a bid. Bucknell and Villanova each get credit for a top-5 win vs. Yale. Yale may drop from top 5 with a loss. I have RU "next up" after Bucknell and Villanova. It will be VERY CLOSE, but RU may pass Bucknell and Villanova if Yale drops from top 5. That would put RU in....with the "numbers" supporting a bid. It would probably be "poetic justice" for the RU seniors.
I have not run the numbers officiially but it will be very close.
I have not run the numbers officiially but it will be very close.
Nova is out. Period. Let alone ahead of RU. One of RU/OSU is getting, maybe both. No way the committee is taking 4 ACC teams and only 2 from the BIG.
And you keep referencing some magic “formula”. There is no such thing. The committee ways a variety of factors but in the end it is entirely subjective. The only criteria is that each selection is unanimous.
Nightmare scenario for the committee would be for Michigan to pass RU in the power ratings if Yale drops below Notre Dame in the RPI. Michigan would get credit for a top-5 win over ND. If Michigan earns a bid based on the numbers, the committee may have to override the numbers and go by the eye-test. I can't imagine Michigan getting a bid even if the numbers support it. Should be interesting.
Looks like we’ll never know, but their resume looks remarkably similar to ours, substituting Colgate for Army and Yale for UMD. Common wins over PSU, Cuse, Brown & Lehigh. We both lost to Princeton. They’d be squarely in the bubble but they’ve been ranked ahead of us most of the season and I think they’d get the nod over us.
Last year the committee relied on the power ratings. That is the only way 8-8 (1-3 regular season in ACC) UNC earned a bid.
Don't forget that two years ago, the committee went with power ratings to give JHU a bid over RU despite RU BEATING JHU TWICE!
It will be very close. I'll post a final prediction in a couple of hours. People are giving the "committee" too much power. I believe the power rankings will give the answer.
The committee is s real thing. There are 5 members. I can give you their names if you’d like. There is a very specific set of criteria they consider which in the surface appear objective but are entirely subjective. Hint: “power rating” is not one of them. That’s not even a thing. If you are referring to LaxPower’s power rating, that is entirely unofficial and invented by the publisher and not even remotely related to the selection of teams into the NCAA tournament. Please stop quoting that as a factor.
Well, if Villanova gets a bid it is because of the power ratings. They have now passed Bucknell and I project them as the last at-large in.
The best 5 not in... in order:
Bucknell
Vermont
RU
Penn St
Michigan
If committee had the power some here suggest then RU would have gotten a bid two years ago since the only reason JHU got a bid was because of the power rating. RU handled JH twice and they both finished 3-2 in the BIGTEN that year in the regular season. "Committee" is just a formality in most cases. They like to use objective "numbers" models to back up their "decision."
I project 'Nova IN.
If I'm wrong then I commend the "committee" for their "out of the box" thinking....but it would be unprecedented in recent history.
The best 5 not in... in order:
Bucknell
Vermont
RU
Penn St
Michigan
If committee had the power some here suggest then RU would have gotten a bid two years ago since the only reason JHU got a bid was because of the power rating. RU handled JH twice and they both finished 3-2 in the BIGTEN that year in the regular season. "Committee" is just a formality in most cases. They like to use objective "numbers" models to back up their "decision."
I project 'Nova IN.
If I'm wrong then I commend the "committee" for their "out of the box" thinking....but it would be unprecedented in recent history.
Please point me to a link that states that the selection committee must choose teams according to an official “power ranking” and how said formula is calculated. Thanks.
I sorta agree with you, but the committee doesn’t care and they probably don’t even look at that. The B1G is the best conference. That’s a fact!! Not my opinion. Look at last year’s tournament and our record vs the ACC. However, the committee doesn’t care about that stuff. I agree with what you’re from a logical standpoint, but the committee isn’t logical
I’m driving now...but it is on the laxpower site. I verified that the past two years the “committee” didn’t have to meet because they went by the numbers. I agree if Michigan was sitting where Nova is now that they would likely consider going against the numbers....but history suggests they wouldn’t. Nova’s win in OT at Penn State early on will be enough to show they could’ve competed in the BIG.
The biggest issue with what you say is that they did not meet. If that is true they should not be on the committee. There is a reason that the committee is in place if the are not going to meet then they should just let laxpower pick it and then it would become a complete joke.
I’m familiar enough with the criteria to poke holes in it but honestly it wouldn’t quite be enough to move RU up into a bid spot. The last bid always goes to someone with several flaws.
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