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Lane Kiffin has extensive experience as a HC and OC. He's an excellent recruiter and would have flipped at least 3-6 four star recruits the moment we hired him. Your knocking a guy who came within one game of winning a NC last year and will most likely win a NC this year.

how many 5* guys would he flip in that same moment? If you're gonna make stuff up
then shoot the moon...3-6? why not 10?

damn I must have been asleep when Kiffin was crowned the king of football.......

I like what he's done at Bama but you gotta put the pipe down on some of this
other stuff...ask Oakland-Tenn-USC how many football atoms he split while
employed there?
 
Your institution is fooling you into believing that it cares about college football. It does not and the most recent hires are a clear indication of where they want the program! We can go round and round of who should have been hired but at the end of the day look at the facts; a sitting Governor contacted your President and (supposedly) suggested hiring Hobbs. Then he (Hobbs) hires a co-defensive coordinator from OSU. Who has Ash hired since landing the job? This makes no sense and I refuse to believe that the AD is not indirectly involved in his most recent hires. Are we to believe that this HC and his most recent hires will turn this program around, produce winning seasons and a potential trip to the Rose Bowl? If you believe this then Hobbs, Barchi and the faculty succeeded.
 
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Your institution is fooling you into believing that it cares about college football. It does not and the most recent hires are a clear indication of where they want the program! We can go round and round of who should have been hired at the end of the day a sitting Governor contacted your President and (supposedly) suggested hiring Hobbs. Then he (Hobbs) hires a co-defensive coordinator from OSU. Who has Ash hired since landing the job? This makes no sense and I refuse to believe that the AD is not indirectly involved in his most recent hires. Are we to believe that this HC and his most recent hires will turn this program around, produce winning seasons and a potential trip to the Rose Bowl? If you believe this then Hobbs, Barchi and the faculty succeeded.

Absolute falsehood. Hobbs is a Democrat. It was at John Farmer's suggestion, who is counsel to Rutgers.
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i..._story_on_how_patrick_hobbs_became_the_n.html


Farmer said he first learned Barchi was considering a move on the athletic director position the day he first reached Hobbs on the golf course.

"Clearly by Friday, Dr. Barchi was thinking about it or he wouldn't have called me," he said. "He reached out and asked me if I knew anyone who could step in as AD."

Hobbs was the first name that came to mind. While the two were not close friends, they knew each other as law school deans and occasionally had lunch together. They even coached against each other in a basketball matchup of height-challenged law students in which neither opted to put in a 'ringer.'

"I thought he would be a good fit," said Farmer. "I knew that Pat was on sabbatical and, as a result, might be available on short notice. I also thought that, coming from a career in academia and with his background as chair of the SCI and his training as a lawyer, Pat would be able to harmonize the athletics imperatives with academic and compliance values."

Farmer added that Hobbs had received high marks from everybody.

"He had to make difficult decisions at Seton Hall and he did," he said. "And he knows New Jersey. It won't take him six months to find out where Edison is."

After introducing Hobbs to Barchi on Monday, Farmer stepped out of the picture as additional meetings that week were set up with Greg Brown, chairman of the Rutgers board of governors, and with Kenneth Schmidt, who heads the board's athletics committee.

Barchi said he had initially set out to find an interim director of athletics who could stabilize the department before launching a national search, but the play soon changed in the days leading up to Thanksgiving.

"We really were looking for someone who had impeccable credentials and the highest ethical activity, someone who was known throughout the state and the government and in the business and academic communities; someone who had experience both in academia and in athletics," he said at the trustees meeting last week.

Barchi said it was clear to everyone that Hobbs had the attributes required for the university's next director of athletics.

Hobbs, in an interview, recounted his meeting with Barchi from his own perspective.

"We started talking about it as sort of an interim possibility, and the more we kept exploring it and what I thought about the opportunity and what he thought I might be able to do, it turned," Hobbs said. "Then it was, 'Would you do this?' And I said 'Heck, yeah, I'll do this.'"

When he went on sabbatical in June, Hobbs said he knew he wanted to pursue leadership opportunities in higher education again, but had decided he was going to take a year to think about what he wanted to do.

"This opportunity came along, and it just sort of was like the perfect fit and the perfect time," he remarked. "That's why I think this happened so quickly, because Dr. Barchi could see this was something I was looking for, and this was something he was looking for, so we're going to make it work."
 
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Are saying that CC never contacted Barchi and strongly suggested hiring Hobbs? Because if you are my sources which are credible say otherwise.

Gov Christie, himself, said that he never contacted Barchi and suggested hiring Hobbs, and that he didn't know that Hobbs was being considered for AD until after he was hired.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/11/christie_didnt_push_for_hobbs_to_lead_rutgers_athl.html

Asked if he'd pushed for Hobbs to get the job, Christie said he didn't but added that he was informed of the university's intent to hire Hobbs over the holiday weekend.

"I was told either late Saturday night or early Sunday," Christie said, "and they said, 'This is the way we're going ... whaddaya think?' But luckily, I agreed with it. I think it's a really good choice."
Note that Hobbs was hired Friday, and Christie wasn't contacted until Sat night or early Sun, according to Christie.
 
If I was a first time head coach, I would want the best possible coach who can play well in the sandbox. Budget aside, this guy can't afford to bring in boss fighters. He needs people he can trust who he feels can bring something positive without rocking the boat. This guy wants coaches who see his vision, not their own. Coaching budget means absolutely nothing at this point. Smart hires.
 
Your institution is fooling you into believing that it cares about college football. It does not and the most recent hires are a clear indication of where they want the program!

Ever think about the schools that FIRST hired guys like Urban Meyer or Brian Kelley?
If they went by your logic, they would have passed on them.

Ash may or may not be the next great coach, but hiring him DOES NOT mean Rutgers doesn't care about football. You are seriously going off the deep end. Some would say hiring Golden after he crashed and burned at Miami with 4 and 5 star players would show Rutgers didn't care...
 
I read that Narduzzi hired the o-line coach from Akron last year.


John Peterson: Alma Mater Ohio State 1991

Cincinnati: 1991-1992 Grad Assistant
Ohio State: 1993-1994 Grad Assistant
Akron: 1995-1998 Offensive line
Miami(Ohio): 1999-2003 Offensive Line
Ohio State: 2004-2011 tight ends and recruiting coordinator
UAB: 2012--2013 Offensive Line
Akron: 2014 Assistant Head Coach and Offensive Line
Pitt: 2015 Offensive Line

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
John Peterson: Alma Mater Ohio State 1991

Cincinnati: 1991-1992 Grad Assistant
Ohio State: 1993-1994 Grad Assistant
Akron: 1995-1998 Offensive line
Miami(Ohio): 1999-2003 Offensive Line
Ohio State: 2004-2011 tight ends and recruiting coordinator
UAB: 2012--2013 Offensive Line
Akron: 2014 Assistant Head Coach and Offensive Line
Pitt: 2015 Offensive Line

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Watched the 1982 Sugar Bowl yesterday. Brought back some memories, what a game!!
 
Watched the 1982 Sugar Bowl yesterday. Brought back some memories, what a game!!


It was a great game.

The other interesting part of Petersons resume was he was the recruiting coordinator at Ohio State from 2004-2011. Our Lion friends do not think Narduzzi will be able to recruit on par with Franklin.
We will see. Give me a good GAME DAY coach who is a GOOD recruiter (doesn't have to be spectacular).

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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He has time, it's not like the head coach left us the
week before written commitments. Now that was a
bunch fluck.
 
Your institution is fooling you into believing that it cares about college football. It does not and the most recent hires are a clear indication of where they want the program! We can go round and round of who should have been hired but at the end of the day look at the facts; a sitting Governor contacted your President and (supposedly) suggested hiring Hobbs. Then he (Hobbs) hires a co-defensive coordinator from OSU. Who has Ash hired since landing the job? This makes no sense and I refuse to believe that the AD is not indirectly involved in his most recent hires. Are we to believe that this HC and his most recent hires will turn this program around, produce winning seasons and a potential trip to the Rose Bowl? If you believe this then Hobbs, Barchi and the faculty succeeded.
What school are you from? Ash is similar to the Nuzz hire at Pittsburgh. Both were DC at good schools. You just have to wait and see if he can turn it around but Flood really screwed up with the talent with his recruiting. I don't have any doubt that Ash can turn around the defense but it will take time. The question is the offense but I know the spread will score more than our pro set offense so that's a winner already.

Any change in coaching is a gamble. Golden might be able to recruit but was definitely not a winner. RHULE can not recruit. It was always going to be 50/50 if they are successful. Everyone needs to let it play out for the next 3 years. Flood got 4 years and Ash is getting at least 4 years.
 
You don't trust Ash? Got it because you and Abro's complaints are nothing more than saying you think Ash is a poor decision maker
Truly a horrendous fanbase
Honestly Zap, no one has any basis to trust or not trust Ash this point. The people exhibiting blind faith are almost as ridiculous as the naysayers.
 
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What school are you from? Ash is similar to the Nuzz hire at Pittsburgh. Both were DC at good schools. You just have to wait and see if he can turn it around but Flood really screwed up with the talent with his recruiting. I don't have any doubt that Ash can turn around the defense but it will take time. The question is the offense but I know the spread will score more than our pro set offense so that's a winner already.

Any change in coaching is a gamble. Golden might be able to recruit but was definitely not a winner. RHULE can not recruit. It was always going to be 50/50 if they are successful. Everyone needs to let it play out for the next 3 years. Flood got 4 years and Ash is getting at least 4 years.
Dave: to be honest I could live with Ash as HC. What has me concerned and should have you concerned are his most recent hires. I have a real bad feeling that he (Ash) is underestimating the need for talent (recruiting), player development (coaching) and an in depth implementation/execution of game day X's & O's (coordinators). We are not OSU where talent is plentiful, he is dealing with a work in progress at RU. I hope I'm wrong but the guys he's bringing in will not address the issues we face in 2016.
 
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What school are you from? Ash is similar to the Nuzz hire at Pittsburgh. Both were DC at good schools. You just have to wait and see if he can turn it around but Flood really screwed up with the talent with his recruiting. I don't have any doubt that Ash can turn around the defense but it will take time. The question is the offense but I know the spread will score more than our pro set offense so that's a winner already.

Any change in coaching is a gamble. Golden might be able to recruit but was definitely not a winner. RHULE can not recruit. It was always going to be 50/50 if they are successful. Everyone needs to let it play out for the next 3 years. Flood got 4 years and Ash is getting at least 4 years.
That's a good comparison. What was Narduzzi's first staff like at Pitt? I'll look it up when I have more time.
 
It was a great game.

The other interesting part of Petersons resume was he was the recruiting coordinator at Ohio State from 2004-2011. Our Lion friends do not think Narduzzi will be able to recruit on par with Franklin.
We will see. Give me a good GAME DAY coach who is a GOOD recruiter (doesn't have to be spectacular).

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
If you lighten up with your OOC schedule. Sprinkle in a little bit of luck, I believe Pitt may be poised to win the ACC next year. By the way Peterson was a dam good hire.
 
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Dave: to be honest I could live with Ash as HC. What has me concerned and should have you concerned are his most recent hires. I have a real bad feeling that he (Ash) is underestimating the need for talent (recruiting), player development (coaching) and an in depth implementation/execution of game day X's & O's (coordinators). I hope I'm wrong but the guys he's bringing in will not address these needs.

How many years has Ash coached in the B1G? And he is underestimating what is needed to compete?
 
Just switching to a spread and buttoning up the tackling are worth at least two more wins.

If our goal is 7 wins (which I'll take with a clean program), I think this staff can do it.

We aren't a legit national contender until many more factors are in place anyway.
 
Dave: to be honest I could live with Ash as HC. What has me concerned and should have you concerned are his most recent hires. I have a real bad feeling that he (Ash) is underestimating the need for talent (recruiting), player development (coaching) and an in depth implementation/execution of game day X's & O's (coordinators). We are not OSU where talent is plentiful, he is dealing with a work in progress at RU. I hope I'm wrong but the guys he's bringing in will not address the issues we face in 2016.

Really, you know for a fact what our staff looks like? We have a major upgrade in S&C coaches from what I see. Yes, our OC is young but was on the staff of Herman and Herman raved about him. You don't think our ST coach has experience?

I'm getting tired of hearing all the bitching & whining without seeing the full picture. Can we wait and see what the final coaching staff looks like before you jump off the ledge? Just sit back & relax and see how this unfolds, don't you think we are 100x better than where we were a month ago and getting better?
 
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Dave: to be honest I could live with Ash as HC. What has me concerned and should have you concerned are his most recent hires. I have a real bad feeling that he (Ash) is underestimating the need for talent (recruiting), player development (coaching) and an in depth implementation/execution of game day X's & O's (coordinators). We are not OSU where talent is plentiful, he is dealing with a work in progress at RU. I hope I'm wrong but the guys he's bringing in will not address the issues we face in 2016.


You are basing your feelings in direct contradiction to his statements about those things you cite above. You have no basis for your feelings. In fact, if you listen to him, you should "feel" the opposite.
 
Okay, that statement is probably not entirely accurate. My point is that we are bringing guys in that are jumping up several rungs on the coaching tree.

OC- Mehringer is jumping from WR coach at a non-P5 school to OC of a P5 school.
ST- Okruch is jumping from a quality control position to a full coordinator position
S&C-Parker is jumping from an assistant role in S&C to the head guy.
OL-Blazek is jumping from Western Illinois to a P5 coach
S&C assistant - Beemer is going from #1 at Hawaii to #2 at the position at RU. The exception so far.

I am not discounting this strategy, but I'm just saying its peculiar and not expected. A bunch of young, overachievers may be exactly what we and Ash need on this staff.

To me, none of this was more peculiar than entrusting the future of your program to a career mediocre OL coach who's vision, theories, strengths and knowledge were totally unknown and untested. And as to the question of cheap or frugal, wasn't Flood's original salary $850,000? And as we now know, he was overpaid even at that.
 
To me, none of this was more peculiar than entrusting the future of your program to a career mediocre OL coach who's vision, theories, strengths and knowledge were totally unknown and untested. And as to the question of cheap or frugal, wasn't Flood's original salary $850,000? And as we now know, he was overpaid even at that.

That coach ends as one of the most successful head coaches in Rutgers history. 3 bowl games in 4 years. The only conference co-championship in school history. Finishes with a career winning record. His OLine performance was one of the biggest reasons that Rutgers had a winning program from '05 - '12, which is why we were invited to the B1G. He had consistent apr rankings until this year. And ultimately his tenure ended because of his own mistakes off the field. His tenure was about bridging the gap between the AAC and the B1G. He probably achieved as much as anyone could expect. We can only hope that the current head coach will surpass his achievements.
 
Dave: to be honest I could live with Ash as HC. What has me concerned and should have you concerned are his most recent hires. I have a real bad feeling that he (Ash) is underestimating the need for talent (recruiting), player development (coaching) and an in depth implementation/execution of game day X's & O's (coordinators). We are not OSU where talent is plentiful, he is dealing with a work in progress at RU. I hope I'm wrong but the guys he's bringing in will not address the issues we face in 2016.
I actually think the coaches are fine but the real question mark is still the recruiting. If we get the right players, don't needs a lot of 4 stars with the spread, we can win.

However, if he doesn't success in 4 years in 2020, don't we get our full share of the Big Ten money to try again? The same process that Pittsburgh, BC, Miami, ND, Cuse and a bunch of other schools go through until they hit the jackpot.
 
That coach ends as one of the most successful head coaches in Rutgers history. 3 bowl games in 4 years. The only conference co-championship in school history. Finishes with a career winning record. His OLine performance was one of the biggest reasons that Rutgers had a winning program from '05 - '12, which is why we were invited to the B1G. He had consistent apr rankings until this year. And ultimately his tenure ended because of his own mistakes off the field. His tenure was about bridging the gap between the AAC and the B1G. He probably achieved as much as anyone could expect. We can only hope that the current head coach will surpass his achievements.

[roll]
 
That coach ends as one of the most successful head coaches in Rutgers history. 3 bowl games in 4 years. The only conference co-championship in school history. Finishes with a career winning record. His OLine performance was one of the biggest reasons that Rutgers had a winning program from '05 - '12, which is why we were invited to the B1G. He had consistent apr rankings until this year. And ultimately his tenure ended because of his own mistakes off the field. His tenure was about bridging the gap between the AAC and the B1G. He probably achieved as much as anyone could expect. We can only hope that the current head coach will surpass his achievements.
Al, you got to get me what your smoking!!
 
You are basing your feelings in direct contradiction to his statements about those things you cite above. You have no basis for your feelings. In fact, if you listen to him, you should "feel" the opposite.

you and many others are basing your optimism on "hope", which really shouldn't be a strategy. Our hopes are based on Ash and Hermanns perceptions of talent, rather than actual achievements on the field. This is similar to when we based our hopes of Terry Shea on Bill Walshes recommendation.

Would OSU have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would Michigan have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would Michigan State have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would Penn State have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would any big time program employ a coach hiring strategy similar to ours, No!

Thats why its difficult for me to reconcile our desires to be a big time program with our coach hiring strategy. If we aspire to be a Big Time program, shouldn't we be employing the same strategies that B1G Time programs employ?

Why would a big time prospect choose Rutgers over OSU, PSU, MSU, or UM, when they have higher caliber coaching staffs? This is a question I'm struggling with.

at best, some of our hirings are a roll of the dice. Is there really any basis to think why our OC or OL Coach will be successful in the B1G? No, but nevertheless I have high hopes for them.

I hope the next 6 hires have stronger track records than the first three, but I wouldn't be surprised to see otherwise.
 
you and many others are basing your optimism on "hope", which really shouldn't be a strategy. Our hopes are based on Ash and Hermanns perceptions of talent, rather than actual achievements on the field. This is similar to when we based our hopes of Terry Shea on Bill Walshes recommendation.

Would OSU have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would Michigan have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would Michigan State have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would Penn State have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would any big time program employ a coach hiring strategy similar to ours, No!

Thats why its difficult for me to reconcile our desires to be a big time program with our coach hiring strategy. If we aspire to be a Big Time program, shouldn't we be employing the same strategies that B1G Time programs employ?

Why would a big time prospect choose Rutgers over OSU, PSU, MSU, or UM, when they have higher caliber coaching staffs? This is a question I'm struggling with.

at best, some of our hirings are a roll of the dice. Is there really any basis to think why our OC or OL Coach will be successful in the B1G? No, but nevertheless I have high hopes for them.

I hope the next 6 hires have stronger track records than the first three, but I wouldn't be surprised to see otherwise.

Let me know when we have the same financial resources as OSU, UM and PSU.
 
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Mr Optimistic becomes Mr Pessimistic

I don't know which Al was more annoying.

The "Look at Me! Al with the stupid nicknames for our players and going on other boards claiming RUTGERS will smash their teams."

Or the overly negative "why would anyone want to come here" Al who is bashing Ash before he even gets started, and who is singing the frickin' praises of one of the best coaches in RUTGERS history Elmer Fudd.

WTF is going on around here?
Did Al Qaeda drop chemical weapons in the water supply in New Jersey?

People are off their rockers!!
 
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you and many others are basing your optimism on "hope", which really shouldn't be a strategy. Our hopes are based on Ash and Hermanns perceptions of talent, rather than actual achievements on the field. This is similar to when we based our hopes of Terry Shea on Bill Walshes recommendation.

Would OSU have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would Michigan have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would Michigan State have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would Penn State have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would any big time program employ a coach hiring strategy similar to ours, No!

Thats why its difficult for me to reconcile our desires to be a big time program with our coach hiring strategy. If we aspire to be a Big Time program, shouldn't we be employing the same strategies that B1G Time programs employ?

Why would a big time prospect choose Rutgers over OSU, PSU, MSU, or UM, when they have higher caliber coaching staffs? This is a question I'm struggling with.

at best, some of our hirings are a roll of the dice. Is there really any basis to think why our OC or OL Coach will be successful in the B1G? No, but nevertheless I have high hopes for them.

I hope the next 6 hires have stronger track records than the first three, but I wouldn't be surprised to see otherwise.

You already lost all credibility after that post praising Flood, so I don't know why I bother...

No coach is ever a slam dunk. People are hopeful of Ash and the coaches he's hired so far based on strong recommendations of championship coaches, experience in championship programs and by achievements on the field. Oh yea, and also because we are Rutgers fans with a fresh start.

Ohio, Michigan, etc. are a little different, but yes, even they hire up and coming coaches without decades of P5 experience. I imagine many of the other schools going through coaching changes (Virginia, Iowa St, Cuse, Mizzu, etc.) look a lot more like us than they do Maryland.
 
I was impressed with Patrick Hobbs message. I found him to be positive, upbeat and confident about our program. That video changed my entire demeanor regarding ASH today. Who knows, maybe Hobbs is onto something here with the Ash hire? Let's see if Ash lands some decent recruits before signing day.
 
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That coach ends as one of the most successful head coaches in Rutgers history. 3 bowl games in 4 years. The only conference co-championship in school history. Finishes with a career winning record. His OLine performance was one of the biggest reasons that Rutgers had a winning program from '05 - '12, which is why we were invited to the B1G. He had consistent apr rankings until this year. And ultimately his tenure ended because of his own mistakes off the field. His tenure was about bridging the gap between the AAC and the B1G. He probably achieved as much as anyone could expect. We can only hope that the current head coach will surpass his achievements.
Flood was the worst football coach I've seen at Rutgers going back to Burns, just awful.
A rapid decline in fan interest despite a better schedule and optimism at an all time low for me proves the point.
 
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I think all 3, mostly smart and frugal. Not because we know yet whether it is actually smart, but because I truly believe Ash thinks it is smart.
 
Flood was the worst football coach I've seen at Rutgers going back to Burns, just awful.
A rapid decline in fan interest despite a better schedule and optimism at an all time low for me proves the point.

So, with such a step up in schedule, we should have kept winning at the same rate, and the 8-5 season in our first season with such schedule was not good enough? Com'on man.

Flood needed to be fired, but he was not the worst coach ever. He definitely needed to go this year. It was the right decision, but people need to relax its pure nonsense. Most of it is borne out of the fact that people thought we were better than we were prior to factoring in the head coach, which is only marginally accurate.

We did not have a superstar QB on this team anywhere, despite a huge misperception by fans.

We had good RBs who all struggled at certain times, and none would have just exploded if given all the carries, except for a game here or there, which they did get sufficient carries

We did not have a better secondary, b/c they were all in jail (a big part of Flood's problem as he contributed to this issue in the first place)

Our lines consistently struggled against B1G lines, as the result of size/talent/scheme

NOW, I agree that we DEFINITLY could have and should have competed against more teams than we did, and that MD game was a complete disgrace and showed the team had just given up. We went toe-to-toe with MSU, who won the B1G. And then we have NO PULSE against everyone else?? That is on Flood and him alone. While we did not have the talent this year to be a WINNING team, we certainly had more talent than to be a stomping mat for almost everyone in our conference, and that is on Flood.

BUT, last year, Flood made a good hire in Fridge, he stuck with a Sr. QB who had a career season and we, instead of being embarrassed on a macro scale, had a respectable inaugural season in the B1G.

Flood's fresh take on coaching also helped propel us in his first year, and except for a MORONIC, HEINOUS call by the refs against LVille would have taken us to our first Orange Bowl and he and the team deserved it.

Flood needed to go at this time, but Flood was not the worst coach ever.
 
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Flood was the worst football coach I've seen at Rutgers going back to Burns, just awful.
A rapid decline in fan interest despite a better schedule and optimism at an all time low for me proves the point.

While his tenure ended in a disappointing manner, gotta give the guy his due. he ended up with a winning record, he graduated most of his players, and he went bowling 3 out of 4 years. If not for the off the field stuff, he'd still be coaching. Once the report came out in August, I knew he was toast, and said as much on the Round Table. I think he did the best he could, given the circumstances.
 
you and many others are basing your optimism on "hope", which really shouldn't be a strategy. Our hopes are based on Ash and Hermanns perceptions of talent, rather than actual achievements on the field. This is similar to when we based our hopes of Terry Shea on Bill Walshes recommendation.

Would OSU have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would Michigan have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would Michigan State have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would Penn State have a coaching hiring strategy similar to ours - No. Would any big time program employ a coach hiring strategy similar to ours, No!

Thats why its difficult for me to reconcile our desires to be a big time program with our coach hiring strategy. If we aspire to be a Big Time program, shouldn't we be employing the same strategies that B1G Time programs employ?

Why would a big time prospect choose Rutgers over OSU, PSU, MSU, or UM, when they have higher caliber coaching staffs? This is a question I'm struggling with.

at best, some of our hirings are a roll of the dice. Is there really any basis to think why our OC or OL Coach will be successful in the B1G? No, but nevertheless I have high hopes for them.

I hope the next 6 hires have stronger track records than the first three, but I wouldn't be surprised to see otherwise.

Al, don't let these facts get in the way: The Big 10 teams you mention above, have far more resources than we do in terms of ticket sales, donor contributions, football profits:

Tickets Sales: Ohio St. - $47M ( 104k stadium), Mich - $46M ( 109k stadium), Mich St. - $17M ( 75k stadium ), RU - $8.7M ( 52k stadium )
Football Profit: Michigan - $64M, Penn St. - $36M, Ohio St, - $40M, Mich St. - $26M, RU - $2M
Donor Contributions: Mich - $35M, Mich St. - $29M, Ohio St. - $28M, RU - $8.1M and last in Big 10

Until we are on equal footing with the Big Boys, you have to do the best you can with the limited resources you have. I have faith in Hobbs to increase the donor contributions. BTW, Mich, Mich St. & Ohio St. don't collect any athletic student fees where RU is 2nd with over $10M in student fees collected for athletics.
 
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