Can you read? I said he was becoming a consistent 10 and 10. You clear don’t pay much attention to how players evolve and improve over the season. Probably dont realize this is the first time he’d been healthy all season since high school.
The team died with Mag
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Can you read? I said he was becoming a consistent 10 and 10. You clear don’t pay much attention to how players evolve and improve over the season. Probably dont realize this is the first time he’d been healthy all season since high school.
We had flexibility. We could go with either Mag or Hyatt, whoever was giving us more or who gave us a better matchup. If one player was off, we could lean on the other - both brought different things to the table, and gave different looks to our opponents.
As the season wore on, it became more apparent who Pike was leaning more heavily on. In the 5 games before MSU, Mag was averaging 30.2 min... while Hyatt was averaging 19.4 min. In the game just before MSU, Pike even put Palmquist in for 16 minutes and Hyatt only saw 14.
How can you be a consistent 10 and 10 when he’s never gotten 10 rebounds once in his career? Lol good lord dude you’re lost.
Ignoring Mags defense and contributions to rebounding which is significant, Mag was very fast and moved without the ball well on offense. It made his defender stick with him so he didn't get an easy layup or back door cut.
The players replacing him are half as fast. It's allowed teams to play better help defense. It's not just his contribution to the stat sheet. He opened up the floor and gave us more chances with his rebounding.
The players replacing him are half as fast. It's allowed teams to play better help defense. It's not just his contribution to the stat sheet. He opened up the floor and gave us more chances with his rebounding.
He was better than Cam on D. Better than Caleb on O, and stood out during some of their stinkers.
No metrics on moving without the ball. Or foot speed.
Nothing from Hyatt or Palmquist... and no other option available to take them off the floor. They combined for 3 points in 53 minutes.
Yep. The season is done we are not the same team after the mag Injury. We are 1 and 4 . The ride is over for this year.
Yeah that doesn’t count , we were lookin* to go deep in the tourney but without Mag we are simply not the same team.
One if the many many things Mag does that doesn't show up on the stat sheet and people who don't understand basketball don't see or understand the importance of
You’re ignoring all of mags stinkers and Mags highs never came as close to cams highs. All three of our big ten road wins were because of cam and mag had nothing to do with any of them.
@FinalFourOrBust be sure to read that.
cool so why did he get benched at Purdue and northwestern and only play 25 minutes a game? Seems like you should talk to pike about that.
cool so why did he get benched at Purdue and northwestern and only play 25 minutes a game? Seems like you should talk to pike about that.
This team died because it had 0 depth to deal with an injury to a starter. That ‘s because of poor recruiting.
Palmquist couldn’t see the floor unless it was at the end of a blowout up until a few weeks ago. He played 25 minutes tonight.
This team had just enough pieces and a very specific formula for winning games. It worked well, but without Mag it doesn’t work anymore.
I mean Mag might be worth 15 points in a game where Hyatt is doing.. whatever the **** he was doing tonight.
Zero points is one thing, but also only 1 rebound? What the hell?
Zero points is one thing, but also only 1 rebound? What the hell?
Gave up 57 to Wisconsin and won. Offense was the problem and of course foul shooting.
How do you foul shoot 31.3 % on your home court?
I think the absence of Wolf in the lineup before tonight has been weird. He's legit the only other guy down low that can bang and play physical.
Team has become seriously soft honestly.
Scnagg is spot on with loss of Mag. Losing Mag is immeasurable loss. We don’t have the depth to compensate nor do we have the players to elevate their game.
There was one play that epitomized our futility tonight, RU played solid D, Michigan missed the shot and 4 RU players just stood there and watched the rebound bounce in front of them with no one going for it and eventually Cliff too late decided to go for it...alas Michigan would end up with a 3 on that possession
I agee with this though I agree with Scangg and Choppin and Diddy too. I think everyone is right here. Mag was a cog on a wheel. Pike has a specific way of playing. Once that was removed the whole wagon fell apart as we dont have the depth to replace it.
And yet RU still went out and finished the game vs Sparty. They still gathered themselves and won out in Wisky with 2 players out
Mag was not the reason they missed 11 free throws in the first half at one point. Mag wasnt the reason for lazy passes. Mag isnt the reason for lack of leadership.
I would have expected a Pike team especially so experienced to show more composure and toughness and we lacked both but the latter is problematic.
Look we all want to praise Pike because he managed to get a rag tag bunch with some of the least talent in the league overall playing at a high level and the most elite defense in the country. It was covering up for bad recruiting and some never wanted to admit that his recruiting was particular poor for the 2022 season as we only landed Cam as an impact player. Obviously Pike is now reeling some guys in but we needed bridge guys. Hyatt is an experienced player so a peformance tonight is pretty damning at this point in the season. Simpson nowhere near ready and he simply is not that good, ive seen Geo comparisons and he is nowhere near what Geo was as a freshmen. Three players should not be here and maybe even a 4. Thats alot to carry on a roster and thats why its almost entirely on the top 5 to get it done
we all got excited when this team overacheived and now we are all salty they are playing poorly but again maybe we were never that good to begin with is the reality
we all got excited when this team overacheived and now we are all salty they are playing poorly but again maybe we were never that good to begin with is the reality
I mean I still remember the end of some cupcake game where the subs went in for two minutes and we were all like "holy shit these guys are bad"
Now these guys are getting minutes.. I mean it's a little unfair for me to say it though because the guy who killed us the most in this game was a guy many argued should start (and is starting now)
I mean his first two shots were something you and I could have thrown up
Yeah that's the kind of performance that almost makes you wonder if something else was going on (i.e. a personal issue or something). Just looked completely out of it from the start.
I had a similar thought. The problem is we have no margin for things like that. There is no way to have a rotation right now that does not include significant minutes for Hyatt - He's going to see 25+ minutes even if he's having a D- night
You are correct. Ride or die with Andre driving bus rest of way. Katz I think bailed out the back lol
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