Who has the Authority to fire Hobbs and Ash ASAP ?

[Abro1975]

Until both are gone from Football involvement and decisions , RU will continue to be the worst D1 team. It's an humiliation for the University and Conference. Something should be done before the recruiting season ends. Keep Hobbs in a fund raising position, and hire someone else for Football oversight? I think that might work.

The end is near for Ash, remains to be seen what that do with Hobb.

 

[Knight Shift]

Until both are gone from Football involvement and decisions , RU will continue to be the worst D1 team. It's an humiliation for the University and Conference. Something should be done before the recruiting season ends. Keep Hobbs in a fund raising position, and hire someone else for Football oversight? I think that might work.

The end is near for Ash, remains to be seen what that do with Hobb.

Wow, Abro--gunning for likes? Surprising post from you.
No argument on Ash. But Hobbs, no. He got the first hire wrong. It happens.
For everyone who is going to go in that direction, please post how many thousands or millions of dollars you will donate to fund a new coach.
Everybody needs to calm the hell down.

 

[Abro1975]

Wow, Abro--gunning for likes? Surprising post from you.
No argument on Ash. But Hobbs, no. He got the first hire wrong. It happens.
For everyone who is going to go in that direction, please post how many thousands or millions of dollars you will donate to fund a new coach.
Everybody needs to calm the hell down.

Would you let the guy who hired the Captain of the Titanic hire the next Captain of the next ship?

If it makes certain alums happy, resassign Hobbs as Chief Fundraiser and Title 9 analyst.
His expertise in Football is zero to none.

 

[RUSK97]

Would you let the guy who hired the Captain of the Titanic hire the next Captain of the next ship?

If it makes certain alums happy, resassign Hobbs as Chief Fundraiser and Title 9 analyst.
His expertise in Football is zero to none.

I’m not ready to fire Pat, but he cannot make the next FB coach hire. I don’t trust his judgement.

 

[Knight Shift]

Would you let the guy who hired the Captain of the Titanic hire the next Captain of the next ship?

If it makes certain alums happy, resassign Hobbs as Chief Fundraiser and Title 9 analyst.

Oh stop it. I respect you and your history, but you are being overly dramatic.
You want to look for the problem?--Barchi.

Barchi fires Mike Rice. Without an AD, Rutgers hired Eddie Jordan. Pat fixed that mistake. He will fix his own mistake.

Barchi fires Flood and Hermann simultaneously. Barchi goes it alone, without a search or a hiring committee, and quickly hires Hobbs. Hobbs was under the gun to hire someone for the recruiting class. Hobbs was given a paltry $2 million budget to hire a coach. You get what you pay for. If I was in Hobbs' position, and if given the opportunity to hire again, if I was given a budget of anything less than $3.5 million for a new head coach, I would resign.

This situation falls squarely on Barchi and the BOG. Yeah, it is real fashionable to call for the AD's head. I'm sure your post will garner lots of likes. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[R1776U]

RU needs to put a minimum # of wins clause in contracts

 

[knight82]

Oh stop it. I respect you and your history, but you are being overly dramatic.
You want to look for the problem?--Barchi.

Barchi fires Mike Rice. Without an AD, Rutgers hired Eddie Jordan. Pat fixed that mistake. He will fix his own mistake.

Barchi fires Flood and Hermann simultaneously. Barchi goes it alone, without a search or a hiring committee, and quickly hires Hobbs. Hobbs was under the gun to hire someone for the recruiting class. Hobbs was given a paltry $2 million budget to hire a coach. You get what you pay for. If I was in Hobbs' position, and if given the opportunity to hire again, if I was given a budget of anything less than $3.5 million for a new head coach, I would resign.

This situation falls squarely on Barchi and the BOG. Yeah, it is real fashionable to call for the AD's head. I'm sure your post will garner lots of likes. Be careful what you wish for.

I agree 100 per cent. The situation we are in now is all on Bob Barchi

 

[RUSK97]

Oh stop it. I respect you and your history, but you are being overly dramatic.
You want to look for the problem?--Barchi.

Barchi fires Mike Rice. Without an AD, Rutgers hired Eddie Jordan. Pat fixed that mistake. He will fix his own mistake.

Barchi fires Flood and Hermann simultaneously. Barchi goes it alone, without a search or a hiring committee, and quickly hires Hobbs. Hobbs was under the gun to hire someone for the recruiting class. Hobbs was given a paltry $2 million budget to hire a coach. You get what you pay for. If I was in Hobbs' position, and if given the opportunity to hire again, if I was given a budget of anything less than $3.5 million for a new head coach, I would resign.

This situation falls squarely on Barchi and the BOG. Yeah, it is real fashionable to call for the AD's head. I'm sure your post will garner lots of likes. Be careful what you wish for.

$2MM per year is bottom of the barrel for a B1G coach, but it’s a premium salary for a bad FCS head coach. ‘Cause that’s what we have.

 

[Knight Shift]

$2MM per year is bottom of the barrel for a B1G coach, but it’s a premium salary for a bad FCS head coach. ‘Cause that’s what we have.

Probably more than 75% of the fanbase was completely on board with the hire of Ash. He had a great pedigree having been DC at Wisconsin and tOSU. Worked under Urban Meyer. Had the makings of being another Schiano. Tell me who else was available and willing the take the job when Ash was hired that, at the time, was a better candidate than Ash?

 

[R1776U]

Oh stop it. I respect you and your history, but you are being overly dramatic.
You want to look for the problem?--Barchi.

Barchi fires Mike Rice. Without an AD, Rutgers hired Eddie Jordan. Pat fixed that mistake. He will fix his own mistake.

Barchi fires Flood and Hermann simultaneously. Barchi goes it alone, without a search or a hiring committee, and quickly hires Hobbs. Hobbs was under the gun to hire someone for the recruiting class. Hobbs was given a paltry $2 million budget to hire a coach. You get what you pay for. If I was in Hobbs' position, and if given the opportunity to hire again, if I was given a budget of anything less than $3.5 million for a new head coach, I would resign.

This situation falls squarely on Barchi and the BOG. Yeah, it is real fashionable to call for the AD's head. I'm sure your post will garner lots of likes. Be careful what you wish for.

legit post... good going brah!

 

[RUSK97]

Probably more than 75% of the fanbase was completely on board with the hire of Ash. He had a great pedigree having been DC at Wisconsin and tOSU. Worked under Urban Meyer. Had the makings of being another Schiano. Tell me who else was available and willing the take the job when Ash was hired that, at the time, was a better candidate than Ash?

I was on board at the time of his hiring. I wasn’t overly enthusiastic only because I didn’t know anything about him. But it shouldn’t take this long to figure out that he’s not the one.

And when Ash was hired I was hoping for Frost who went to UCF and Narduzzi. Neither of whom are particularly successful at this point, but...nobody looks to me to make these kinds of hires because I’m completely unqualified. Just like our AD. For some reason Rutgers always feels the need to hire people with no experience. Like a president with no experience leading a large public university. Or an AD with practically no AD experience. And lean on him to hire a FB HC with no HC experience.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Probably more than 75% of the fanbase was completely on board with the hire of Ash. He had a great pedigree having been DC at Wisconsin and tOSU. Worked under Urban Meyer. Had the makings of being another Schiano. Tell me who else was available and willing the take the job when Ash was hired that, at the time, was a better candidate than Ash?

Dave Aranda was my choice lol. :Wink:

 

[Knight Shift]

Dave Aranda was my choice lol. :Wink:

If we were at a bar, I would dump a beer on your head, respectfully, of course. And then laugh at you and your bromance with Aranda. My guy will always be Mike Leach.

 

[rutgersguy1]

If we were at a bar, I would dump a beer on your head, respectfully, of course. And then laugh at you and your bromance with Aranda. My guy will always be Mike Leach.

Well that's not a realistic choice IMO back then or now...Aranda was DC making 500K at Wisconsin.

Now making 2.5M at LSU so might be a little less realistic now but most here would have hated him...he's an introvert type which I've always said and an article I read said he was nick named "fence post" in high school or something. But he's a football junkie and creative etc...and I'm more interested in his acumen.

Only thing to me that's a question is his offensive philosophy...influence from Leach as GA, Hawaii/Utah State stints or Wisconsin stint? LSU has opened up too this year so maybe more influence from that too...maybe young hot shot Joe Brady taken as his OC if he got a head job.

 

[Plum Street]

Probably more than 75% of the fanbase was completely on board with the hire of Ash. He had a great pedigree having been DC at Wisconsin and tOSU. Worked under Urban Meyer. Had the makings of being another Schiano. Tell me who else was available and willing the take the job when Ash was hired that, at the time, was a better candidate than Ash?

No we weren’t

 

[Scarlet_Monster]

Probably more than 75% of the fanbase was completely on board with the hire of Ash. He had a great pedigree having been DC at Wisconsin and tOSU. Worked under Urban Meyer. Had the makings of being another Schiano. Tell me who else was available and willing the take the job when Ash was hired that, at the time, was a better candidate than Ash?

I wasn't on board from Day 1.

His time at Wisky was respectable, and I find it hard to gauge how great of a coach might be especially at OSU where you field 5 and 4 stars in every single position. Great players can easily cover up bad coaching.

 

[Knight Shift]

Well that's not a realistic choice IMO back then or now...Aranda was DC making 500K at Wisconsin.

Now making 2.5M at LSU so might be a little less realistic now but most here would have hated him...he's an introvert type which I've always said and an article I read said he was nick names "fence post" in high school or something. But he's a football junkie and creative etc...and I'm more interested in his acumen.

Only thing to me that's a question is his offensive philosophy...influence from Leach as GA, Hawaii/Utah State stints or Wisconsin stint? LSU has opened up too this year so maybe more influence from that too...maybe young hot shot Joe Brady taken as his OC if he got a head job.

I think Aranda took the words of Dirty Harry as career advice.

Chris Ash took the words of George Michael as career advice.

 

[R1776U]

Probably more than 75% of the fanbase was completely on board with the hire of Ash. He had a great pedigree having been DC at Wisconsin and tOSU. Worked under Urban Meyer. Had the makings of being another Schiano. Tell me who else was available and willing the take the job when Ash was hired that, at the time, was a better candidate than Ash?

with enough money anyone would be willing
and Mark Richt was available

 

[G- RUnit]

Probably more than 75% of the fanbase was completely on board with the hire of Ash. He had a great pedigree having been DC at Wisconsin and tOSU. Worked under Urban Meyer. Had the makings of being another Schiano. Tell me who else was available and willing the take the job when Ash was hired that, at the time, was a better candidate than Ash?

So not true! A large percentage objected to a coach with no head coaching experience and no northeast ties but were shot down by this board. Lots of people owe a lot of apologies.

 

[RU at the shore]

A bad BC loss will seal the deal for Ash

 

[R1776U]

I wasn't on board from Day 1.

His time at Wisky was respectable, and I find it hard to gauge how great of a coach might be especially at OSU where you field 5 and 4 stars in every single position. Great players can easily cover up bad coaching.

same with not on board.... Coach Flood kicked his ass twice(see arky games)

 

[Knight Shift]

I wasn't on board from Day 1.

His time at Wisky was respectable, and I find it hard to gauge how great of a coach might be especially at OSU where you field 5 and 4 stars in every single position. Great players can easily cover up bad coaching.

That's fine. You win a prize.
You are correct. Some were not on board.
His early days and moves were concerning. His opening press conference was insulting in tone. Doing away with long-standing football awards was a bad move.
Not keeping Camp on staff was a bad move.
Hiring Mehringer was a bad move.
Forcing Laviano to play the spread was a bad move.
Not utilizing Hicks after the 2015 season he had was a bad move.
Hiring Niemann was a bad move.
Not sticking with the spread was a bad move.

 

[R1776U]

So not true! A large percentage objected to a coach with no head coaching experience and no northeast ties but were shot down by this board. Lots of people owe a lot of apologies.

damn right they owe us all an apology.. why hire a midwestern fly over country doofus to run the show????? i was tooting the Mark Richt horn when they fired Coach Flood... guess he's got the last laugh now working at ALABAMA under Coach Saban

 

[Plum Street]

Whoever has the authority to fire these guys tonight were probably also in on the hire of these fools.

 

[Knight Shift]

with enough money anyone would be willing
and Mark Richt was available

I don't have direct evidence, but knowing the BOG and Barchi $2Million was the limit. IIRC, Mullen could have been had in 2013 when Julie was AD, but RU would not commit money to assistants. Pennywise and pound foolish.

 

[Scarlet_Monster]

That's fine. You win a prize.
You are correct. Some were not on board.
His early days and moves were concerning. His opening press conference was insulting in tone. Doing away with long-standing football awards was a bad move.
Not keeping Camp on staff was a bad move.
Hiring Mehringer was a bad move.
Forcing Laviano to play the spread was a bad move.
Not utilizing Hicks after the 2015 season he had was a bad move.
Hiring Niemann was a bad move.
Not sticking with the spread was a bad move.

If Ash had half a brain from Day 1 he would've kept Camp, and would've made an all-out effort to retain Panagos to coach the DL.

Mehringer wasn't a bad choice at first, giving up on that offensive style so quickly was a bad choice.

Ash trying to shove squares into circle slots was always mind boggling. If you have 3 QBs and none can do the thing you want, a good coach finds a way to get his players to succeed. Ash fails mightedly at that.

 

[RUskoolie]

I have been saying this since last November when Hobbs stapled his career to Ash. He had a golden opportunity to fire him and hire someone else and balked.

Let's not forget him GUSHING about the best interview ever. Anyone remember that?

Would any other P5 school give an AD a 2nd chance when said AD hired a rookie HC, gave him a 7 year deal guaranteed and the guy didn't even win 10 games in 4 years? All while costing the AD about 10-20M in lost revenue over that 4 year span due to season ticket sales dropping 50%?

Multiple people have said his football knowledge is very limited, myself including. It's kind of scary.

Hobbs is and should be in hot water along with Ash.

 

[Knight Shift]

So not true! A large percentage objected to a coach with no head coaching experience and no northeast ties but were shot down by this board. Lots of people owe a lot of apologies.

Wrong. Go check the nj.com poll.
You know what you can do with your apologies? Grow up. Hiring a head coach is not an exact science. We lost out because RU cheaped out.

 

[Plum Street]

I have been saying this since last November when Hobbs stapled his career to Ash. He had a golden opportunity to fire him and hire someone else and balked.

Let's not forget him GUSHING about the best interview ever. Anyone remember that?

Would any other P5 school give an AD a 2nd chance when said AD hired a rookie HC, gave him a 7 year deal guaranteed and the guy didn't even win 10 games in 4 years? All while costing the AD about 10-20M in lost revenue over that 4 year span due to season ticket sales dropping 50%?

Multiple people have said his football knowledge is very limited, myself including. It's kind of scary.

Hobbs is and should be in hot water along with Ash.

Yes , the interview . It was the best ever Hobbs said . Pathetic

 

[Knight Shift]

I have been saying this since last November when Hobbs stapled his career to Ash. He had a golden opportunity to fire him and hire someone else and balked.

Let's not forget him GUSHING about the best interview ever. Anyone remember that?

Would any other P5 school give an AD a 2nd chance when said AD hired a rookie HC, gave him a 7 year deal guaranteed and the guy didn't even win 10 games in 4 years? All while costing the AD about 10-20M in lost revenue over that 4 year span due to season ticket sales dropping 50%?

Multiple people have said his football knowledge is very limited, myself including. It's kind of scary.

Hobbs is and should be in hot water along with Ash.

You don't know about the balking, unless you have talked to Pat Hobbs, Greg Brown, the Garrutis, the Towers, Barchi or someone on the BOG. Anything else is rumor and speculation.

 

[Leonard23]

Get a clue people. Only the BOGs has the authority.

 

[RUSK97]

same with not on board.... Coach Flood kicked his ass twice(see arky games)

I don’t believe so. Flood only kicked his ass once because be was only with Bielema there one year. But your point is still well taken.

 

[koleszar]

Probably more than 75% of the fanbase was completely on board with the hire of Ash. He had a great pedigree having been DC at Wisconsin and tOSU. Worked under Urban Meyer. Had the makings of being another Schiano. Tell me who else was available and willing the take the job when Ash was hired that, at the time, was a better candidate than Ash?

Matt Campbell was my choice.:)

 

[RUskoolie]

Get a clue people. Only the BOGs has the authority.

Bro, you're the one who is off ITT.

 

[Knight Shift]

Matt Campbell was my choice.:)

Except he was hired by Iowa State on Nov. 29, 2015, the same day Hobbs was hired. I like the choice, but too little, to late.

 

[koleszar]

Except he was hired by Iowa State on Nov. 29, 2015, the same day Hobbs was hired. I like the choice, but too little, to late.

Then it's all Barchi's fault, should have hired Hobbs sooner.:) Right now I'm happy, BYU just tied the Vols with 1 sec. left in regulation.

 

[Knight Shift]

Then it's all Barchi's fault, should have hired Hobbs sooner.:) Right now I'm happy, BYU just tied the Vols with 1 sec. left in regulation.

Barchi has done more to f up athletics than any other RU President. The irony is that he has done the most damage when he has gotten involved and was purportedly trying to do something to hep athletics.

 

[WhiteBus]

Oh stop it. I respect you and your history, but you are being overly dramatic.
You want to look for the problem?--Barchi.

Barchi fires Mike Rice. Without an AD, Rutgers hired Eddie Jordan. Pat fixed that mistake. He will fix his own mistake.

Barchi fires Flood and Hermann simultaneously. Barchi goes it alone, without a search or a hiring committee, and quickly hires Hobbs. Hobbs was under the gun to hire someone for the recruiting class. Hobbs was given a paltry $2 million budget to hire a coach. You get what you pay for. If I was in Hobbs' position, and if given the opportunity to hire again, if I was given a budget of anything less than $3.5 million for a new head coach, I would resign.

This situation falls squarely on Barchi and the BOG. Yeah, it is real fashionable to call for the AD's head. I'm sure your post will garner lots of likes. Be careful what you wish for.

My god you are such a two face asshole. You were the biggest supporter of Flood and Barchi years ago. Killing us smart people who know better back than. You are a complete liar and an embarrassing prick

 

[Steve91562]

Oh stop it. I respect you and your history, but you are being overly dramatic.
You want to look for the problem?--Barchi.

Barchi fires Mike Rice. Without an AD, Rutgers hired Eddie Jordan. Pat fixed that mistake. He will fix his own mistake.

Barchi fires Flood and Hermann simultaneously. Barchi goes it alone, without a search or a hiring committee, and quickly hires Hobbs. Hobbs was under the gun to hire someone for the recruiting class. Hobbs was given a paltry $2 million budget to hire a coach. You get what you pay for. If I was in Hobbs' position, and if given the opportunity to hire again, if I was given a budget of anything less than $3.5 million for a new head coach, I would resign.

This situation falls squarely on Barchi and the BOG. Yeah, it is real fashionable to call for the AD's head. I'm sure your post will garner lots of likes. Be careful what you wish for.

Barchi wasn't the one who gave the unproven head coaching candidate essentially a 7 year deal. That one is on Hobbs. Seven years is what Rhule got for the Baylor situation. Ours was much more de minimis.

Everyone makes mistakes; the test of excellence is what you do after the mistake is made. That 7 year deal has trapped RU in Hobbs' mistake.

He'll probably get another shot at it, he's built up some good will, but I sure hope he gets some advice on who to select, and only signs a 5 year contract.

 

[Leonard23]

Bro, you're the one who is off ITT.

Nope. You guys have no clue who can approve this spending and it has been this way for years, despite me positing the info for you every year. It's basic corporate governance spending authority. You're crazy if you want to push out the only AD that actually raised that much $ and built new facilities.