Big Man
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Your statement was that GG is a better shooter than Ace. GG shot .320 overall and .282 from 3. I guess you dont think Ace can beat that.
My statement was, as a recruit GG was projected to be a better outside shooter. So, there’s no basis today to proclaim Ace will be a better shooter.
Shooting isn’t why Ace is the 2 or 3 national recruit.
Actually that is a very big part of why he is rated so highly. He averaged 33.4 points his senior year, including a ton of made 3s.
Projected to be a better perimeter shooter than GG, yes or no ? You know the answer to that.
Of course projected to be better all-around player, but that's not what I am refuting.
I believe he's going to have the same problem GG did, which is getting good looks in a ball dominant guard-centric offense.
Unlike GG, he can score at will at all three levels. You can’t overplay him on the perimeter, otherwise he will blow by the defender. Will get easier long range shots as a result and will shoot appreciably better than GG.
Ha ha. Score at will at three levels. Not happening. College isn't high school.
You didn't answer. Yes or No ? Not who's a better prospect.
Nothing to do with Ace or this discussion at all.
But I can't see "three level scorer" without laughing and thinking about someone calling Reiber a "three level scorer" and mocking me for doubting it.
Ace, hands down. Look at the season Jayson Tatum had at Duke his one year in college. Expect something like that.
poster probably meant "3 ppg scorer". Reiber was softer than a stick of butter on a Havana sidewalk in August.
LOL..hard time getting open looks in a guard centric offense. You just continue to spew crap out of your rear. Give it up already. You're awful at trolling.
You can’t compare players this way. Gavin’s scouting report said he’d be a lights out shooter and that’s entirely what his ranking was based on. He wasn’t supposed to be elite at most other things and it turned out he was further behind in D and some other areas of the game than projected to start. When his shots didn’t fall early - it was hard to keep him on the court, because he wasn’t bringing other things of value to the table. When he got his opportunities, he panicked and forced shots to try to live up to the hype in the area he was supposed to excel.
In Ace’s case - we’re talking about a completely different trajectory. He’s projected to excel in many areas. Perimeter shooting isn’t specifically called out as a major strength but he’s also not bad at it. There’s no reason more to assume he will shoot like GG did last year than to assume he’ll shoot like Geo did as a frosh from 3, or anyone else really.
Don’t disagree but that’s not a power 5 offense and why Pike needs an offensive minded assistant. “He operates best with guys who can do something themselves.”
Hoping a guy can win one on one off the bounce is not an offensive strategy.
Agreed! Having Ace and Dylan running pick and roll will be interesting and effective as well. Their ability to get to the rim and speed will be a problem.
JWill needs to be moved to the bench and run the second team offense. He does not compliment Dylan and Ace and is a liability on offense for them. Any team wanting to stop Dylan and Ace doubles off JWill and leaves him open on the perimeter.(not a threat). Forcing Dylan and Ace to play 2 on 3.
if Dylan and Ace are as advertised. We will face a lot of zone defenses limiting drives and forcing us to shoot from the perimeter. Once again, limiting Jwilll effectiveness playing alongside Dylan and Ace. We need a shooter!! I understand Martini is supposed to be that guy but he is limited defensively and we know how Pike quickly will pull defensible liabilities.
It's an interesting list for #2. Green went G-league so hard to compare him to others. Banchero would be, by far, my choice for best year of college. Edwards shot a lot and hit at 40% over all and 29% from three, his shooting stats actually reminded me of Griffiths, except Edwards shot even more and better at the rim. Whitehead and Edwards were used more in typical freshman roles and averaged 8 a game on decent efficiency.
Those #42 performances show just how oversized expectations were for Griffiths
correction' it's not any viable college offense, let alone P5. it's 'beat your man' and hope for the best. not much cohesion.
No, Kevin Durant like stats at 26 points and 11 rebounds a game is best case scenario.
If he were eligible, Ace would be the #1 pick in the NBA draft this year, as a 17yr old.
You can be sure he’s got mad talent and won’t be an another GG.
Fair. That was a great shooting team, like 4 guys at 40% or better taking over 3 a game each.
True. I would expect Anthony Edwards college shooting percentages to be worst case for Ace. However Edwards usage was high at 33mpg and he did not have the luxury of having a Dylan Harper on the floor with him to draw attention and create open looks.
True, that Georgia team, while having three or four other top 100 freshman and a couple other top 100 players didn't exactly have another alpha. Think they're best three point shooter was around 35%, so no one to spread the floor for him either.
Dariq Whitehead, broke his foot in preseason and had surgery, missed the first several games, came back and played on one leg, and had a second surgery after the season, so I would not list his college stats as typical of a #2 rated recruit.
Ace is in a different stratosphere than Gavin. Athletically in a different world. Played against much better competition in HS. Is a true alpha
There is really no point comparing the 2
There is really no point comparing the 2
To be clear, he plays in the US and moved here some time ago and has been in US recruiting circles during this whole time.
Richie has been all over this for a couple days now even had a podcast lol
Mike's post he quoted was from April 24th which is well before his name surfaced
