Cam Spencer

[Corycord1]

Temple, Miami, Indiana, OSU, and Hall
3-19 from 3 16%
14-42 FGs 33%
7pts per game in those 5 games.
He’s also the defensive weak link. To small to guard bigger guards and to slow to guard smaller guards.
If he’s not hitting shots what’s his role on this team?

 

[richthedentist]

Agreed you have to play Derrick Simpson more I don’t care if he is a freshman and makes some mistakes he is the only one who can beat an opposing defender one on one

 

[Saint Puppy]

Agreed you have to play Derrick Simpson more I don’t care if he is a freshman and makes some mistakes he is the only one who can beat an opposing defender one on one

I agree, and I don't think we really have much of a choice considering what we all saw tonight offensively.

 

[ScarletDave]

Simpson would have been my go-to on the last shot. He is a freshman but has ice in his veins .. doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. He has to play more

 

[Rutgers25]

Said this in game thread…

Cam is not a true shooter. True shooters are itching to get looks because they think everything is going to go in. they are not scared and won’t hesitate to hoist it up.

 

[RU848789]

Temple, Miami, Indiana, OSU, and Hall
3-19 from 3 16%
14-42 FGs 33%
7pts per game in those 5 games.
He’s also the defensive weak link. To small to guard bigger guards and to slow to guard smaller guards.
If he’s not hitting shots what’s his role on this team?

It's why I kept saying to not put too much stock in his dominant performances in the cupcake games. While I believe he can play better against the better teams than he has (I'm sure his shots will fall in some games), he's not going to be the offensive force some thought he would be. Man do we miss Ron and Geo right now.

 

[bac2therac]

not good enough but Derek was dreadful in limited minutes

recruiting recruiting recruiting

 

[Mr Magoo]

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I think this is too much of a pattern right now. When the comp stepped up, he has more or less disappeared. He’ll have his moments, and maybe it will change, but we already have too many role players playing too many minutes, and if he is not hitting his shots (or even getting them), he’s not serving a purpose. I’m fearing I was very wrong about him.

 

[Corycord1]

not good enough but Derek was dreadful in limited minutes

recruiting recruiting recruiting

Derek will be fine though, he’s only a frosh. Cam is supposed to be that guy NOW

 

[AMBOY04]

Spencer has not shot the ball well against good competition. He has an ugly looking shot. Time to let Simpson play more. Start both Mag and Hyatt.

 

[G- RUnit]

Only points we scored in end game were Spencer and Spencer assist. He had a nice game against OSU.

He was not the issue today. Ill advised Caleb three from way too far out, Caleb losing ball out of bounds, Caleb missing crucial free throw again in crunch time. Crucial errors.

Paul’s turnovers were freshmen mistakes. Why is he going to the baseline and not top of the key? Please introduce yourself to Cam because it sure looks like Paul is playing favorites to players who aren’t open.

Cliff is turning into Myles with bad fouls away from the basket.

Hyatt deserves ball more.

 

[biazza38]

not good enough but Derek was dreadful in limited minutes

recruiting recruiting recruiting

This
Recruiting has been mediocre

 

[Plum Street]

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I think this is too much of a pattern right now. When the comp stepped up, he has more or less disappeared. He’ll have his moments, and maybe it will change, but we already have too many role players playing too many minutes, and if he is not hitting his shots (or even getting them), he’s not serving a purpose. I’m fearing I was very wrong about him.

Cam is a role player at this level

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

not good enough but Derek was dreadful in limited minutes

recruiting recruiting recruiting

Wrong wrong wrong......Mulcahy as a senior was slow down making mistakes, but a freshman gets no such leeway??

If you take away Hyatt and Simpson performance vs Indiana, it would be another game in the 40s. Recruiting doesn't allow Mulcahy to dominate the ball and play limited offensive players like Mag.

How do you hold a team like Indiana to 48 and Seton Hall to 45 and only go 1 win and 1 loss???

 

[sct1111]

Disagree. Cam isn't used the right way. He should be coming off screens, not counted on beating his man off the dribble.

 

[FIJI'83]

Was Cam suppose to turn down Pike’s offer? Not his fault he is slow footed and can’t create his own shot off the dribble. He probably would have been better off going to a team where the HC coaches offense and uses screens, double screens and back doors to get players open. Instead, Pike’s offensive approach is …. is …. I don’t know what is.

 

[Mr Magoo]

Only points we scored in end game were Spencer and Spencer assist. He had a nice game against OSU.

He was not the issue today. Ill advised Caleb three from way too far out, Caleb losing ball out of bounds, Caleb missing crucial free throw again in crunch time. Crucial errors.

Paul’s turnovers were freshmen mistakes. Why is he going to the baseline and not top of the key? Please introduce yourself to Cam because it sure looks like Paul is playing favorites to players who aren’t open.

Cliff is turning into Myles with bad fouls away from the basket.

Hyatt deserves ball more.

The offense was atrocious. We absolutely waste 25 seconds on the shot clock just hoping we don’t get the ball stolen. Then panic sets in and whoever was left with the hot potato fired up a shot.

 

[biazza38]

Disagree. Cam isn't used the right way. He should be coming off screens, not counted on beating his man off the dribble.

Agree with this
Pike’s offense is atrocious
Easily the worst basketball I’ve watched in years.
I need to take the next game off

 

[RUJMM78]

Temple, Miami, Indiana, OSU, and Hall
3-19 from 3 16%
14-42 FGs 33%
7pts per game in those 5 games.
He’s also the defensive weak link. To small to guard bigger guards and to slow to guard smaller guards.
If he’s not hitting shots what’s his role on this team?

Spencer has done a good job with steals and passing the ball to Cliff for dunks.His shooting performance has taken a dive against stronger competition.

 

[RutgersClassof2004]

Cam was our best player against Ohio State you bozos. Yes, he is a step slower, but his basketball IQ is superior.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Cam was our best player against Ohio State you bozos. Yes, he is a step slower, but his basketball IQ is superior.

He's a 6th or 7th man. Basketball IQ would mean knowing how to score and how to draw fouls and get to the FT line......that's what smart players do. He fades on his shots and let SHU rip the ball away from him. On his 1st half layup, he is whining for a foul call and a "And -1". This isn't Loyola Maryland, the Patriot League or Ivy League.

He has had Temple, Miami, Indiana, Ohio State and Seton Hall. Do you really want to say it's acceptable for a starter to have 1 good game out of 5??

 

[bethlehemfan]

The offense was atrocious. We absolutely waste 25 seconds on the shot clock just hoping we don’t get the ball stolen. Then panic sets in and whoever was left with the hot potato fired up a shot.

I was disappointed we did not attack the press. We were happy to get the ball over the mid court. That has to change or it will be our undoing. Credit to shu for the strategy. We are going to see that more and I hope we are more aggressive in the future.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

If Cam is not going to take shots we need to play someone else. This team DESPARATELY needs what Cam is supposed to give us. He can NEVER pass up a mildly contested 3 with 3 seconds on the shot clock. NEVER!

Happened again tonight.

2 things are like clock work so far. Cam doesnt take a tough shot so someone else has the hot potato when the shot clock expires AND Hyatt gets a charging foul.

 

[fluoxetine]

If Cam is not going to take shots we need to play someone else. This team DESPARATELY needs what Cam is supposed to give us. He can NEVER pass up a mildly contested 3 with 3 seconds on the shot clock. NEVER!

Happened again tonight.

2 things are like clock work so far. Cam doesnt take a tough shot so someone else has the hot potato when the shot clock expires AND Hyatt gets a charging foul.

I love Pike but passing up too many threes is.. a pattern with his teams.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Just the latest in a line of reputed lights out shooters that turns out to be anything but. The mods always talk them up like they are just pure shooters like Steph Curry or something. In practice. Practice? We talking about practice? Not the game but practice! Practice!

 

[fluoxetine]

I mean Spencer is still 39% 3-point shooting on the year? He's 3-17 in the games everyone is giving him shit about. That's a sample size of ~0

 

[bethlehemfan]

I mean Spencer is still 39% 3-point shooting on the year? He's 3-17 in the games everyone is giving him shit about. That's a sample size of ~0

To be fair cam missed a dagger that did everything but go in.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I love Pike but passing up too many threes is.. a pattern with his teams.

some of Pike's players should pass up 3s.

Today we had 19 turnovers....a Cam 3 4 feet beyond the line is better than a turnover.

Team leaves the floor together at10 minutes before the game and Cam is out shooting. Why?

What happened to the guy in preseason who is angry when he misses 2 in a row. He needs to shoot or sit.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I mean Spencer is still 39% 3-point shooting on the year? He's 3-17 in the games everyone is giving him shit about. That's a sample size of ~0

He needs to be X-34 in those games....

 

[bac2therac]

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I think this is too much of a pattern right now. When the comp stepped up, he has more or less disappeared. He’ll have his moments, and maybe it will change, but we already have too many role players playing too many minutes, and if he is not hitting his shots (or even getting them), he’s not serving a purpose. I’m fearing I was very wrong about him.

exactly...his game at OSU was an improvement but that doesnt mean it erased 3 bad games against real competition because now its 4 bad games vs 5 real teams. He was brought here to score and replace Geo and he is nowhere near that..to compound the problem. Derek is very error prone and its tough to put him out there.

 

[SBP]

Only points we scored in end game were Spencer and Spencer assist. He had a nice game against OSU.

He was not the issue today. Ill advised Caleb three from way too far out, Caleb losing ball out of bounds, Caleb missing crucial free throw again in crunch time. Crucial errors.

Paul’s turnovers were freshmen mistakes. Why is he going to the baseline and not top of the key? Please introduce yourself to Cam because it sure looks like Paul is playing favorites to players who aren’t open.

Cliff is turning into Myles with bad fouls away from the basket.

Hyatt deserves ball more.

Amen on Hyatt. Great stroke.

 

[cm_13]

some of Pike's players should pass up 3s.

Today we had 19 turnovers....a Cam 3 4 feet beyond the line is better than a turnover.

Team leaves the floor together at10 minutes before the game and Cam is out shooting. Why?

What happened to the guy in preseason who is angry when he misses 2 in a row. He needs to shoot or sit.

They were trying to make some passes today that were truly baffling. Like zero chance of getting the ball to the guy you’re trying to get it to

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Simpson would have been my go-to on the last shot. He is a freshman but has ice in his veins .. doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. He has to play more

This

We have 6 guys for the one to four …160 minutes

Not finding 25 minutes for Derek is a big need for me ….

 

[RutgersClassof2004]

exactly...his game at OSU was an improvement but that doesnt mean it erased 3 bad games against real competition because now its 4 bad games vs 5 real teams. He was brought here to score and replace Geo and he is nowhere near that..to compound the problem. Derek is very error prone and its tough to put him out there.

He isn't here to "replace GEO" guy...and frankly...he was awesome against OSU. You got some sorta problem with Cam?

 

[NickRU714]

I mean Spencer is still 39% 3-point shooting on the year? He's 3-17 in the games everyone is giving him shit about. That's a sample size of ~0

You mean the games that haven’t been against the worst teams in the country?
I would direct your comments to those talking about Spencer replacing RHJs offense after those games nobody was giving him shit about.

The football team scored 66pts against Wagner too.
How’d that work out?

 

[S_Janowski]

Bottom line you can’t have Spencer going 34 minutes while only putting up 4 points on 7 shots.

He’s got decent hands on defense but otherwise he’s not great on defense and if he’s not scoring then his minutes need to be cut, period.

Simpson didn’t look great the few minutes he played but we saw him not play well vs. Indiana in the first half and then go on to be a catalyst in the 2nd half. Need to find a way to get Simpson 15-20 minutes minimally and deal with the growing pains he may give you. He’s our most explosive option and in a game where we can’t put the ball in the bucket he needs to get his chances.

 

[fluoxetine]

He needs to be X-34 in those games....

You mean the games that haven’t been against the worst teams in the country?
I would direct your comments to those talking about Spencer replacing RHJs offense after those games nobody was giving him shit about.

The football team scored 66pts against Wagner too.
How’d that work out?

Your comment and Greene's comment are related.

I don't really think the step up in competition is having a huge impact on his shooting percentage (and if it is, 17 shots is not nearly enough to know). In general if there is an issue it will show up in his not getting the shots at all.

As a lesson on sample size.. let's all remember RHJ's like 0-50 stretch in 2020/21

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Cam Spencer right now is taking Issa 3s. I need some volume. NEVER pass up a mildly contested shot late in the shot clock. Geo and Ron would never pass to Mag with 3 seconds left when there was a reasonable shot to be had.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Cam Spencer right now is taking Issa 3s. I need some volume. NEVER pass up a mildly contested shot late in the shot clock. Geo and Ron would never pass to Mag with 3 seconds left when there was a reasonable shot to be had.

This was a huge problem actors the board tonight …we constantly passed up “decent “ looks in favor of trying to get “good looks”…that never materialized consistently

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

This is not Spencer's fault.....he is asked to bring the ball up to help Mulcahy from working too hard.....and Caleb is also asked to bring the ball up. Pass the ball forward to a teammate.

Simpson is the player who will take these shots Spencer is passing up. And if the defense closes out on Simpson, he can at least then drive and make a pass to set up another stationary shooter (Spencer, Caleb, Hyatt or Mulcahy).

I hate to be the bad news guy, but Wake Forest arrives with quick guards who will take the 1st available 3 and they have guards who will drive and kick. RU is not holding Wake under 60 points unless they shoot horrendously bad. RU will need 70 points to win.