Not to pile on here, but you can see that stats are done in terms of yards per attempt. https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/ and https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/ (The latter just gives "average," but if you do the math, it's plainly average per attempt.)
Can we all agree about “opening up the O”?
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Actually, we punt more when we pass more. We need to pass just enough so the D has to defend pass play.
It’s used as part of the QBR. Just like completion %. The yards per attempt is actually used to penalize short passes to inflate completion %. But my point was about the type of passing plays OC is calling when we are throwing. It’s not like we are not pushing the ball downfield when we throw.
Ok, but that's different from your saying, as you did above, "Yards per attempt? That’s not a stat." FWIW, I think it's a perfectly good stat, just like yards per carry are. An unsuccessful pass attempt is as bad as a rush for no gain. It's not as though we evaluate running backs by looking just at the plays where they gain yards,
Yes, we are trying to push the ball downfield when we throw, but unfortunately we're not as good at it as we should be. Maybe we'd be better off with the West Coast offense approach of using short passes as substitutes for carries? Wimsatt missed a couple of short passes early in the game, but he did better overall as he settled down.
Let me emphasize that I am *not* a Wimsatt-hater. I only think it should be recognized that he's got a long way to go. Unlike some here, I think he has the physical tools. But he needs to learn how to use them better.
My thought here is that if we ran ninety percent if the time, we are not a powerhouse team that can wear down a OSU, and we would punt a lot
The threat of a pass, and a pass, aids the running game
Also we get over powered running inside the ten, that seems evident
We need better passing, and it is frustrating because it seems the easy passes are a problem
The only part I’ll disagree with is the comparison to yards per carry. RB valuation is much simpler and straight forward. More yards per carry is just better. But QBR more yards per attempt doesn’t mean higher QBR.
Yes, but yards per attempt are taken into account in determining "passer rating," which remains the NFL's official statistic. The NCAA uses a similar formula. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passer_rating QBR (whose exact formula, devised by ESPN, is proprietary) is not necessarily the more valid measure. But in any case, yards per attempt remains a relevant way to measure QBs, even though, as you say, it is not as clearly related to performance as yards per carry for a running back.
I completely agree with the OP. I don't want this offense "opened" at all. The QB can't hit basic 5 yard out patterns. He misses wide open receivers by 8-10 yards on downfield passes. For this team, passing is wasted possessions. Just run the ball. And keep running it. We should be throwing 5 to 6 passes a game.
You want to throw the ball all over the place? Get a QB who can do it.
You want to throw the ball all over the place? Get a QB who can do it.
hart sucked his first three years, throwing a ton of interceptions, but took a significant step forward in year 4. Gavin to his credit, has avoided throwing a ton of interceptions, and sports close to a 2:1 TD to INT ratio. his completion % needs to get better, but that is also due to the lack of talent in the WR Corp.
